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Nah, he wasn't just explaining.
Also, no matter how much the €9 Avoro VPS drops in performance, I doubt it would ever go under the €49 Cherry Servers VPS. Everything else is semantics, albeit the difference between "dedicated" and dedicated could of course be hard to spot on the pricing pages. But so is performance comparison in general as well.
He denounces unfair competition.
And he's right, because it is.
Posting a single message to denounce it doesn't seem like much when you have to put up with this competition all year round.
You really are biased.
Of course, Dataforest's product is much better suited to LET.
That's not the point.
Yes, objectively, 5x the price for less performance is better.
Same servers, 4 cores, 16 GB RAM
Cherry Servers:
Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
Test | Value
|
Single Core | 1740
Multi Core | 3921
Avoro (full node with 45% CPU usage):
Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
Test | Value
|
Single Core | 1783
Multi Core | 5638
Everyone can judge for themselves and compare the products - it's ridiculous to compare a one-off situation (which was resolved within a very short time)
You think like someone who only uses hosting for hobbies.
Masturbating over a price / geekbench score ratio doesn't sum up everyone's needs.
I can see one company being clear about the products it sells, and another not being so.
So for the hobby I don't care, but the criteria would be different in another context.
I repeat myself, the debate isn't about the price / performance ratio….
Nice try, I don't.
And even more ridiculous to not include the price difference between those
Only LET would have such a dumbass, who would drop over 5000€ in VPS servers to test if the resources really are dedicated or not, when everyone else can instantly conclude that most of those servers will share same nodes.
The only question is, how much is the provider willing to fuck you over? Will he only pocket 2,5k and deploy some hardware worth the remaining 2,5k which wont show such issues, or will he just cram everything in existing nodes.
And probably on Reddit.
Very enriching to discuss with you.
I agree to disagree
I have a VPS with > @dataforest said:
What are the cpu kinds for both the cases?
Well, what was I to say? I don't even have any servers for any hobby stuff. At all. Zero. None.
You're aware HostHatch define dedicated cores as you can use how much you want? They don't pin them. If you want that, pay 5x more for less.
lmfao
bruh you be creepin'
Hi daddy
I am kf user, ask sirfoxy.
You didn't fix anything. Stop lying. There is zero proof of that. I have all of the screenshots of the high steal servers. This guy needs to be banned from here. It's been proven this company is not only lying about their servers but also trying to steal money after lying and being exposed with proof.
While I have nothing personally against dataforest, I would personally stay the fuck away from SYNLINQ. To much childish behaviour and dumb stuff going on over there.
There's a difference between not pinning cpu cores and overselling dedicated cpu cores at hypervisor level and advertise as dedicated.
Knowing that Hosthatch is very clear about this in the description of their promotional products, and that this is far from being their core business. Unlike others.
In short, I think we just don't understand each other.
But it doesn't really matter.
I've already given my opinion on this kind of commercial practice, which I find deceptive and unfair.
No hard feelings.
Good morning! You should stop lying and admit that you didn't check it again after opening your Paypal cases.
I'm out of here again, the OP is unfortunately resistant to everything that is put to him - in Germany we say: I paint the world the way I like it.
Sure, on LET, but not on the website. At all.
You can't blame Avoro for this and have HostHatch as recommended in your signature..
Even if you HAVE fixed the issue, this is the most unprofessional behavior I've seen from a provider, PERIOD. I will fully avoid your services from now on.
As someone who uses Azure daily, a hybrid approach seems the most sensible for businesses today IMO. Azure + OVH dedis + OVH cloud for example.
@SirFoxy is just angry and petty, seems to hate everyone and everything about LET. No shock there. You can at least ping me when throwing shots from left field. Generally everyone ignores you for good reason, but I'll partake one time since this would be useful to rebut your nonsense for potential customers:
Interesting how to you "freedom of speech" only applies to/or is a dog-whistle for "hate speech". Fundamental difference between us, because it applies to all legally protected speech from where I stand. Run a LGBTQ+ community forum for citizens of Ethiopia? I will gladly host and defend it under the First Amendment to the best of my abilities, the same as I would for any customer.
Ridiculous straw man, non-LGBTQ+ people commit suicide over harassment from every social media platform in existence. That is illegal and law enforcement would be involved. I don't expect you to understand the fundamental reasoning behind why it's important to me that I rely on actual laws and law enforcement rather than random employees in a PR department of unaffiliated third-party companies.
Fake advertising campaign? It was thrust into my lap without any notice. For hours we thought there was a technical issue that we couldn't diagnose. I followed through defending my rights (per contract and MSA) with an upstream. Of course, you are not privy to communications that happened between any of the parties involved so you'll continue doing what you do best: hit and run lies. All parties did come to an agreement, there was fault admitted in how it was handled, and things were put into place to avoid it in the future.
Maybe he should?
I don't understand your arguments.
Hosthatch does not specify on its site that the cpu cores are dedicated.
And when they sell dedicated cores they are not pinned but not oversold. At least that's what they claim, and until proven otherwise, that's the case.
And I don't understand the comparison between a hosting company that bases its entire brand image on servers with dedicated cores and another that doesn't.
And again, I'm not just talking about Avoro, they're not the only ones concerned.
Anyway, I've spent enough time on this thread. We're obviously not going to agree, and that's okay.
Yes, I agree. But also very much depending on what kind of business.
Yes they do. % dedicated.
Have they said they never ever provision a higher % than the total cores available minus some room for the hypervisor? I don't think so. Please point that out otherwise, I'd love to be proven wrong here.
I don't get this point, because it's not the main product it's okay? What? It actually is HostHatch's main product btw... % dedicated...
Wow, 506 comments on this thread in just 2 days, none of them about doubling bandwidth. That must be a record.
Yes, I have a lot of issues with LET that were not addressed. Starting with holding hosts accountable with a public registry that requires valid business addresses for everyone operating here and identity verification for the hosts.
That's why I quit writing for here and you're a big part of the problem.
But I don't hate LET, and I don't hate everyone. Just you and many of your friends.
I look at you no better than a guy like @dustinc -- you both participate in the same kind of pay-to-win and incentivized spamming behavior. He just doesn't act like he's better than anyone.
This forum has a serious lack of culture that has been replaced with greed. You're literally giving out guns to incentivize spamming.
You have no sense of morals. Your morals are money.
@remy I think I recall seeing HostHatch define dedicated cores as "we can remove any non-dedicated cores and then you can use how much you want", which is how @dataforest defines it as well. You will have to stop liking HostHatch to stand by your POV
Indeed, general compute for APIs, webservers etc, AKS, blob storage, no big deal for running production applications on Azure IMO. When you get into high bandwidth applications or large amounts of compute, the benefits drop off dramatically.