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Netcup - New offer of root server gen. 11

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  • blackjack4494blackjack4494 Member
    edited March 2024

    @remy said:
    Provider ? Is it secret ? :p

    More or less. It's a custom offer by a hoster very close to my company. They aren't active on LET. Regular prices are at over 100€/m 😅
    So not quite low end

    Can post a yabs in general yabs thread tomorrow.

  • remyremy Member
    edited March 2024

    @blackjack4494 said:

    @remy said:
    Provider ? Is it secret ? :p

    More or less. It's a custom offer by a hoster very close to my company. They aren't active on LET. Regular prices are at over 100€/m 😅
    So not quite low end

    Can post a yabs in general yabs thread tomorrow.

    Yes, so private deal. Not really comparable.
    Netcup has very good prices for dedicated resources.

    However, some VPS providers allow 60%-70% constant CPU usage. So yes, it's possible to find better deals for non-guaranteed resources, which is enough for most use cases.

    But for production, when you want guaranteed resources without a big budget, they're very good.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • WhiteRoseGWhiteRoseG Member
    edited March 2024

    @blackjack4494 said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @blackjack4494 said:
    I will stay with my 8x 75f3 16gb ram and 300gb nvme for ~10€/m at a different Hoster. Also additional ips are at 1€/m
    Netcup ain't something for me. Somehow I always get better deals elsewhere 😅

    You can also pay month to month

    My current contract is 30d cancelation with no minimum term since beginning. And I feel I get better value than the new offers that Netcup offers. Dunno how much traffic Netcup includes but I could do ~160tb with no issues per month tho I never reach that.

    Are you downloading usenet :p

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited March 2024

    @JosephF said:
    Does Netcup have any issues accepting US customers or US addresses or US credit cards or US dollars?

    I pay with us credit card, no issues
    I also get the invoice in English.

    Thanked by 2JosephF gdmax
  • @dev_vps said:

    @JosephF said:
    Does Netcup have any issues accepting US customers or US addresses or US credit cards or US dollars?

    I pay with us credit card, no issues
    I also get the invoice in English.

    Are the charges denominated and billed in Euros?

  • @JosephF said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @JosephF said:
    Does Netcup have any issues accepting US customers or US addresses or US credit cards or US dollars?

    I pay with us credit card, no issues
    I also get the invoice in English.

    Are the charges denominated and billed in Euros?

    yes, in €. But my credit card does not charge anything extra beyond standard conversion rate.

    I was charged US 2.16 for 2.00 Euros billed

  • anyone tried new netcup rootserver performance for woocommerce or wordpress site?

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited March 2024
    GB6 score
    single core - 1993
    multi core - 6437
    

    https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5217907

    One of the best performering VPS for under €10
    These are dedicated vCores

    This is simply unbeatable with any deal posted.

  • it is so exceted!

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @dev_vps said:

    @JosephF said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @JosephF said:
    Does Netcup have any issues accepting US customers or US addresses or US credit cards or US dollars?

    I pay with us credit card, no issues
    I also get the invoice in English.

    Are the charges denominated and billed in Euros?

    yes, in €. But my credit card does not charge anything extra beyond standard conversion rate.

    I was charged US 2.16 for 2.00 Euros billed

    If it’s a VISA, you actually are.

  • ksekse Member
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    Fr 8. Mär 09:35:59 CET 2024
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 2 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 9634 84-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 24 @ 2246.624 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 125.8 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 3.9 TiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-18-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : netcup GmbH
    ASN        : AS197540 netcup GmbH
    Host       : NETCUP-GMBH
    Location   : Karlsruhe, Baden-Wurttemberg (BW)
    Country    : Germany
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda3):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 298.51 MB/s  (74.6k) | 599.49 MB/s   (9.3k)
    Write      | 299.30 MB/s  (74.8k) | 602.65 MB/s   (9.4k)
    Total      | 597.81 MB/s (149.4k) | 1.20 GB/s    (18.7k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 639.79 MB/s   (1.2k) | 867.70 MB/s    (847)
    Write      | 673.79 MB/s   (1.3k) | 925.49 MB/s    (903)
    Total      | 1.31 GB/s     (2.5k) | 1.79 GB/s     (1.7k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | busy            | 2.35 Gbits/sec  | 22.5 ms        
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (10G)       | 2.72 Gbits/sec  | 2.37 Gbits/sec  | 10.4 ms        
    HOSTKEY         | Helsinki, FI (10G)        | 925 Mbits/sec   | 930 Mbits/sec   | 29.4 ms        
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 892 Mbits/sec   | 1.95 Gbits/sec  | 75.7 ms        
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.72 Gbits/sec  | 1.83 Gbits/sec  | 156 ms         
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.04 Gbits/sec  | 666 Mbits/sec   | 147 ms         
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 2.36 Gbits/sec  | 2.05 Gbits/sec  | 91.7 ms        
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.53 Gbits/sec  | 404 Mbits/sec   | 163 ms         
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping           
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----           
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 2.62 Gbits/sec  | 2.32 Gbits/sec  | 22.4 ms        
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (10G)       | 2.72 Gbits/sec  | 2.34 Gbits/sec  | 10.3 ms        
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 2.33 Gbits/sec  | 371 Mbits/sec   | 75.5 ms        
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 2.21 Gbits/sec  | 1.63 Gbits/sec  | 157 ms         
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.11 Gbits/sec  | 306 Mbits/sec   | 147 ms         
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 1.07 Gbits/sec  | 1.90 Gbits/sec  | 91.7 ms        
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 1.19 Gbits/sec  | 383 Mbits/sec   | 163 ms         
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
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    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 2005                          
    Multi Core      | 17109                         
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5224706
    
    Thanked by 2loay dev_vps
  • @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @JosephF said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @JosephF said:
    Does Netcup have any issues accepting US customers or US addresses or US credit cards or US dollars?

    I pay with us credit card, no issues
    I also get the invoice in English.

    Are the charges denominated and billed in Euros?

    yes, in €. But my credit card does not charge anything extra beyond standard conversion rate.

    I was charged US 2.16 for 2.00 Euros billed

    If it’s a VISA, you actually are.

    Check the conversion rate and compare with what I have paid.

    $2.16 for €2.00

    Now tell me if they have charged anything extra beyond standard conversion

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited March 2024

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @JosephF said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @JosephF said:
    Does Netcup have any issues accepting US customers or US addresses or US credit cards or US dollars?

    I pay with us credit card, no issues
    I also get the invoice in English.

    Are the charges denominated and billed in Euros?

    yes, in €. But my credit card does not charge anything extra beyond standard conversion rate.

    I was charged US 2.16 for 2.00 Euros billed

    If it’s a VISA, you actually are.

    Check the conversion rate and compare with what I have paid.

    $2.16 for €2.00

    Now tell me if they have charged anything extra beyond standard conversion

    If it’s a VISA, they have.

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited March 2024

    @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @JosephF said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @JosephF said:
    Does Netcup have any issues accepting US customers or US addresses or US credit cards or US dollars?

    I pay with us credit card, no issues
    I also get the invoice in English.

    Are the charges denominated and billed in Euros?

    yes, in €. But my credit card does not charge anything extra beyond standard conversion rate.

    I was charged US 2.16 for 2.00 Euros billed

    If it’s a VISA, you actually are.

    Check the conversion rate and compare with what I have paid.

    $2.16 for €2.00

    Now tell me if they have charged anything extra beyond standard conversion

    If it’s a VISA, they have.

    https://www.wsj.com/market-data/currencies/exchangerates

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited March 2024

    @dev_vps So what? The rate's changed? Your comment proves nothing and it also could not prove anything because I'm right, if it's a VISA, you probably were charged currency conversion fees.

    VISA use their own conversion rate, they don't rely on the European Central Bank (that's often viewd as the "truth".)

    For example, if you bought the VPS today, for 10 EUR, according to VISA's own calculator, and you converted 10 EUR to USD, their calculation is below:

    10 EUR = 10.950989 USD

    1 EUR = 1.095099 USD

    1 USD = 0.913159 EUR

    % Mark-up over European Central Bank Rate = 0.51

    Your credit card issuer dosen't add any fees on top, but that dosen't mean that there are no fees. VISA's fees depend on currency pair, time & day from what I recall.

    Thanked by 1dev_vps
  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited March 2024

    @emgh said:
    @dev_vps So what? The rate's changed? Your comment proves nothing and it also could not prove anything because I'm right, if it's a VISA, you probably were charged currency conversion fees.

    VISA use their own conversion rate, they don't rely on the European Central Bank (that's often viewd as the "truth".)

    The number matches exactly after making the bank fees to zero% over exchange rate for the transaction date

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited March 2024

    @dev_vps your own screenshot states 0,07 %

    It’s not much, it’s usually not when the currency pairs are common and the day leaves enough time for VISA to convert the currency before market closure

    That’s why the fee’s higher today, as it’s friday and a weekend’s coming up ahead

    Just wanted to put it out there that many cards say 0 % fees, but they’re actually not. My credit card did the same, I argued with them for a few replies over email, and they agreed and changed their email template. Now they clearly communicate how many % higher the fee is compared to ECB for each transaction

    Thanked by 1dev_vps
  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited March 2024

    @emgh said:
    @dev_vps your own screenshot states 0,07 %

    It’s not much, it’s usually not when the currency pairs are common and the day leaves enough time for VISA to convert the currency before market closure

    That’s why the fee’s higher today, as it’s friday and a weekend’s coming up ahead

    Just wanted to put it out there that many cards say 0 % but their actually not. My credit card did the same, I argued with them for a few replies over email, and they agreed and changed their email template. Now they clearly communicate how many % higher the fee is compared to ECB for each transaction

    @emgh
    I have worked for financial industry for long enough to understand the marketing gimmicks

    Main thing is watch for any bank fees over exchange rate, such things are part of fine print combined with legal and financial terms

    And 0.07% markup is by European Central Bank , not by the card issuer bank

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:
    @dev_vps your own screenshot states 0,07 %

    It’s not much, it’s usually not when the currency pairs are common and the day leaves enough time for VISA to convert the currency before market closure

    That’s why the fee’s higher today, as it’s friday and a weekend’s coming up ahead

    Just wanted to put it out there that many cards say 0 % but their actually not. My credit card did the same, I argued with them for a few replies over email, and they agreed and changed their email template. Now they clearly communicate how many % higher the fee is compared to ECB for each transaction

    @emgh

    Yup, that’s my point. It’s a fee nontheless. Sometimes, it’s much higher too (weekends for example, as shown.)

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited March 2024

    @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:
    @dev_vps your own screenshot states 0,07 %

    It’s not much, it’s usually not when the currency pairs are common and the day leaves enough time for VISA to convert the currency before market closure

    That’s why the fee’s higher today, as it’s friday and a weekend’s coming up ahead

    Just wanted to put it out there that many cards say 0 % but their actually not. My credit card did the same, I argued with them for a few replies over email, and they agreed and changed their email template. Now they clearly communicate how many % higher the fee is compared to ECB for each transaction

    @emgh

    Yup, that’s my point. It’s a fee nontheless. Sometimes, it’s much higher too (weekends for example, as shown.)

    Currency conversion, by the nature of transaction, will involve fees by the origin bank even if I take 10 euro bill to convert into US $ cash

    In my experience, it is much better to withdraw cash at the ATM using debit card as compared to convert cash at any bank branch or currency conversion places

    For example in India, the markup fees at currency conversion places is almost 5%

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited March 2024

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:
    @dev_vps your own screenshot states 0,07 %

    It’s not much, it’s usually not when the currency pairs are common and the day leaves enough time for VISA to convert the currency before market closure

    That’s why the fee’s higher today, as it’s friday and a weekend’s coming up ahead

    Just wanted to put it out there that many cards say 0 % but their actually not. My credit card did the same, I argued with them for a few replies over email, and they agreed and changed their email template. Now they clearly communicate how many % higher the fee is compared to ECB for each transaction

    @emgh

    Yup, that’s my point. It’s a fee nontheless. Sometimes, it’s much higher too (weekends for example, as shown.)

    Currency conversion, by the nature of transaction, will involve fees by the origin bank even if I take 10 euro bill to convert into US $ cash

    In my experience, it is much better to withdraw cash at the ATM using debit card as compared to convert cash at any bank branch or currency conversion places

    What? I’ve never seen that be cheaper anywhere

    Ah you mean if you have to use physical cash? Sure, I guess. Depending on the ATM. There’s some real scammer-rate ATM’s. But card payment in local currency is almost always the best.

  • @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:
    @dev_vps your own screenshot states 0,07 %

    It’s not much, it’s usually not when the currency pairs are common and the day leaves enough time for VISA to convert the currency before market closure

    That’s why the fee’s higher today, as it’s friday and a weekend’s coming up ahead

    Just wanted to put it out there that many cards say 0 % but their actually not. My credit card did the same, I argued with them for a few replies over email, and they agreed and changed their email template. Now they clearly communicate how many % higher the fee is compared to ECB for each transaction

    @emgh

    Yup, that’s my point. It’s a fee nontheless. Sometimes, it’s much higher too (weekends for example, as shown.)

    Currency conversion, by the nature of transaction, will involve fees by the origin bank even if I take 10 euro bill to convert into US $ cash

    In my experience, it is much better to withdraw cash at the ATM using debit card as compared to convert cash at any bank branch or currency conversion places

    What? I’ve never seen that be cheaper anywhere

    Ah you mean if you have to use physical cash? Sure, I guess. Depending on the ATM. There’s some real scammer-rate ATM’s. But card payment in local currency is almost always the best.

    Third party ATM is a lucrative business to play with common person's lack of financial expertise

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:
    @dev_vps your own screenshot states 0,07 %

    It’s not much, it’s usually not when the currency pairs are common and the day leaves enough time for VISA to convert the currency before market closure

    That’s why the fee’s higher today, as it’s friday and a weekend’s coming up ahead

    Just wanted to put it out there that many cards say 0 % but their actually not. My credit card did the same, I argued with them for a few replies over email, and they agreed and changed their email template. Now they clearly communicate how many % higher the fee is compared to ECB for each transaction

    @emgh

    Yup, that’s my point. It’s a fee nontheless. Sometimes, it’s much higher too (weekends for example, as shown.)

    Currency conversion, by the nature of transaction, will involve fees by the origin bank even if I take 10 euro bill to convert into US $ cash

    In my experience, it is much better to withdraw cash at the ATM using debit card as compared to convert cash at any bank branch or currency conversion places

    What? I’ve never seen that be cheaper anywhere

    Ah you mean if you have to use physical cash? Sure, I guess. Depending on the ATM. There’s some real scammer-rate ATM’s. But card payment in local currency is almost always the best.

    Third party ATM is a lucrative business to play with common person's lack of financial expertise

    I’ve seen what I think is nightclubs operating their own ATM, right outside their entry queue where they, you guessed it, only take cash

    🤑🤑🤑

  • @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @emgh said:
    @dev_vps your own screenshot states 0,07 %

    It’s not much, it’s usually not when the currency pairs are common and the day leaves enough time for VISA to convert the currency before market closure

    That’s why the fee’s higher today, as it’s friday and a weekend’s coming up ahead

    Just wanted to put it out there that many cards say 0 % but their actually not. My credit card did the same, I argued with them for a few replies over email, and they agreed and changed their email template. Now they clearly communicate how many % higher the fee is compared to ECB for each transaction

    @emgh

    Yup, that’s my point. It’s a fee nontheless. Sometimes, it’s much higher too (weekends for example, as shown.)

    Currency conversion, by the nature of transaction, will involve fees by the origin bank even if I take 10 euro bill to convert into US $ cash

    In my experience, it is much better to withdraw cash at the ATM using debit card as compared to convert cash at any bank branch or currency conversion places

    What? I’ve never seen that be cheaper anywhere

    Ah you mean if you have to use physical cash? Sure, I guess. Depending on the ATM. There’s some real scammer-rate ATM’s. But card payment in local currency is almost always the best.

    Third party ATM is a lucrative business to play with common person's lack of financial expertise

    I’ve seen what I think is nightclubs operating their own ATM, right outside their entry queue where they, you guessed it, only take cash

    🤑🤑🤑

    This is no different than … credit card companies making more money with fees and surcharges as compared to interest charged

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • Just use wise.com

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited March 2024

    @WhiteRoseG said:
    Just use wise.com

    Check how much US $ will be needed so that the recipient gets €10 on wise.com

    It is $11.64

    versus $10.97 on my card

  • @dev_vps said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:
    Just use wise.com

    Check how much US $ will be needed so that the recipient gets €10 on wise.com

    It is $11.64

    versus $10.97 on my card

    If you want to do bussines in Europe it's a good card

  • @WhiteRoseG said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:
    Just use wise.com

    Check how much US $ will be needed so that the recipient gets €10 on wise.com

    It is $11.64

    versus $10.97 on my card

    If you want to do bussines in Europe it's a good card

    How exactly, when you are paying 6% extra as compared to the other card?

  • amarcamarc Veteran

    Can you all stop this nonsense ? Where are moderators to delete all offtopic ?

    Thanked by 1qwerty6666
  • Excellent performance

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 2073                          
    Multi Core      | 6820                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5211752
    
    

    These are dedicated cores, so no usage restrictions

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