Any Cheap-ish Server with 2x 10TB HDD in EU ?

c1vhosting · February 2024

@Andreix said:

@zGato said:
@Calin

Well... forgot to mention that I'd like a provider, so by definition no Calin, FlorinMarian, c1vhosting ... etc.

lowenddrama

Moopah · February 2024

@c1vhosting said:

@Andreix said:

@zGato said:
@Calin

Well... forgot to mention that I'd like a provider, so by definition no Calin, FlorinMarian, c1vhosting ... etc.

lowenddrama

Drama is back on the menu.

Maelstrom36 · February 2024

@c1vhosting said:

@Andreix said:

@zGato said:
@Calin

Well... forgot to mention that I'd like a provider, so by definition no Calin, FlorinMarian, c1vhosting ... etc.

lowenddrama

Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth.

c1vhosting · February 2024

@Maelstrom36 said:

@c1vhosting said:

@Andreix said:

@zGato said:
@Calin

Well... forgot to mention that I'd like a provider, so by definition no Calin, FlorinMarian, c1vhosting ... etc.

lowenddrama

Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth.

nice philosophy

fluffernutter · February 2024

@c1vhosting said:

@Maelstrom36 said:

@c1vhosting said:

@Andreix said:

@zGato said:
@Calin

Well... forgot to mention that I'd like a provider, so by definition no Calin, FlorinMarian, c1vhosting ... etc.

lowenddrama

Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth.

nice philosophy

dude I have to know why you're trying to maintain this narrative that you own this super awesome datacenter that no one has ever seen or is allowed to see, genuinely what is the point of this? Calin is honest about hosting from a residence and people still like him and use his service. You dodging this basic question that multiple people are asking is really weird, just say the servers in an apartment or a garage or something and let the actual service you provide speak for itself. It just makes you look way way worse this way.

Andreix · February 2024

@c1vhosting said:

@Andreix said:

@zGato said:
@Calin

Well... forgot to mention that I'd like a provider, so by definition no Calin, FlorinMarian, c1vhosting ... etc.

lowenddrama

Not a lowenddrama at all. I simply do not trust you or the others mentioned to hold my bag of potato chips, let alone my data.

It's just a matter of personal preference. You should learn to accept your status.

Maelstrom36 · February 2024

@fluffernutter said:

@c1vhosting said:

@Maelstrom36 said:

@c1vhosting said:

@Andreix said:

@zGato said:
@Calin

Well... forgot to mention that I'd like a provider, so by definition no Calin, FlorinMarian, c1vhosting ... etc.

lowenddrama

Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth.

nice philosophy

dude I have to know why you're trying to maintain this narrative that you own this super awesome datacenter that no one has ever seen or is allowed to see, genuinely what is the point of this? Calin is honest about hosting from a residence and people still like him and use his service. You dodging this basic question that multiple people are asking is really weird, just say the servers in an apartment or a garage or something and let the actual service you provide speak for itself. It just makes you look way way worse this way.

https://ibb.co/m4dr0Wk
https://ibb.co/0X0w3Cx
https://ibb.co/1d8dKNR

Super Awesome and Premier Italian Data Center.

spywork · February 2024

@Maelstrom36 said:

@fluffernutter said:

@c1vhosting said:

@Maelstrom36 said:

@c1vhosting said:

@Andreix said:

@zGato said:
@Calin

Well... forgot to mention that I'd like a provider, so by definition no Calin, FlorinMarian, c1vhosting ... etc.

lowenddrama

Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth.

nice philosophy

dude I have to know why you're trying to maintain this narrative that you own this super awesome datacenter that no one has ever seen or is allowed to see, genuinely what is the point of this? Calin is honest about hosting from a residence and people still like him and use his service. You dodging this basic question that multiple people are asking is really weird, just say the servers in an apartment or a garage or something and let the actual service you provide speak for itself. It just makes you look way way worse this way.

https://ibb.co/m4dr0Wk
https://ibb.co/0X0w3Cx
https://ibb.co/1d8dKNR

Super Awesome and Premier Italian Data Center.

I think it's not a garage, but a normal office here in Italy without industrial vent, backup generator for electricity. Not a regular dc with all security and certificate.

iKeyZ · February 2024

@layer7 said:

@iKeyZ said:

For info - all seems to be sorted now apart from this one on FRA (CPU);

Hi,

aaand this is fixed now too. Thank you!

No problem I may try out the service at some point!

alciregi · February 2024

Excuse me, maybe I'm OT, but aren't we on a low end forum? I'm a novice in this field of VPS and the like, but I have this opinion.
I mean, great providers have certified datacenters and the like, but sometimes they aren't better that these low end providers... i.e. Axxxa, here in Italy, they still uses FTP to upload ISOs, support ticket are managed by unskilled people and if you are an hobbyst, the service level you got isn't much better... some years ago a big DC in Arezzo caught fire, like the OVH one... Well, I wouldn't crucify passionate people like these providers.
With the understanding that I don't know much about the business and I wouldn't want to be just a clueless.

Andreix · February 2024

@alciregi said:
Excuse me, maybe I'm OT, but aren't we on a low end forum? I'm a novice in this field of VPS and the like, but I have this opinion.
I mean, great providers have certified datacenters and the like, but sometimes they aren't better that these low end providers... i.e. Axxxa, here in Italy, they still uses FTP to upload ISOs, support ticket are managed by unskilled people and if you are an hobbyst, the service level you got isn't much better... some years ago a big DC in Arezzo caught fire, like the OVH one... Well, I wouldn't crucify passionate people like these providers.
With the understanding that I don't know much about the business and I wouldn't want to be just a clueless.

Well... To make an analogy...
You do not go to opera to see a clown, as well as you do not go to the circus to hear a cultural piece of song.

Everything has its place and, no matter how much a clown pretends to be a cultural artist, it is just a clown meant to entertain those who like low level of entertainment.

Same thing with hosting providers and block alley sellers.

concept · February 2024

Honestly this deal from Worldstream is pretty good.
AMD EPYC 7402P
64GB Ram
4x8TB HDD | Hardware RAID-5
100TB BW @ 1Gbit
NL
$123/m - VAT Excluded.

It says its avaliable in 2 hrs too

Andreix · February 2024

@concept said:
Honestly this deal from Worldstream is pretty good.
AMD EPYC 7402P
64GB Ram
4x8TB HDD | Hardware RAID-5
100TB BW @ 1Gbit
NL
$123/m - VAT Excluded.

It says its avaliable in 2 hrs too

Well... Depends. For me it isn't. Mostly because I would have to pay for a CPU/RAM that I don't need.

But thanks for mentioning them.

lukast__ · February 2024

@layer7 said: Hi,
thanks for the hint! Fixed the CPU stuff!
I also saw, that the offer is actually about up to 3 storage disks with each up to 30 TB, but the order form will only give 1 disk with up to 10 TB....
Who ever added this to the shop was maybe too afraid of that huge disks ˆˆ; We will fix that aswell.

Just to clarify, you get 2 Cores, 4 GB RAM, 50GB + 1TB redundant disc, 1 Gbit/s (20TB/month), 1 IPv4, 1 IPv6 for 77,66€/year? That is really cheap.
If someone reading this has that server, can you YABS it please
Edit: I cannot find any TOS/AGB of you?

layer7 · February 2024

@lukast__ said:
Just to clarify, you get 2 Cores, 4 GB RAM, 50GB + 1TB redundant disc, 1 Gbit/s (20TB/month), 1 IPv4, 1 IPv6 for 77,66€/year? That is really cheap.
If someone reading this has that server, can you YABS it please
Edit: I cannot find any TOS/AGB of you?

Hi,

yes i can confirm, currently the configuration you talk about is at 77,66 EUR.

But honestly, this configuration makes actually not too much sense. An identical configuration with the regular cloud servers will be a lot cheaper. So taking the Storage Server product makes only sense, if you want to add more than 1 additional disk -- up to 3 are possible ( but not orderable through the shop.. lol... what fail... ). Will be corrected asap.

Benchmark:

-------------------- A Bench.sh Script By Teddysun -------------------
 Version            : v2023-10-15
 Usage              : wget -qO- bench.sh | bash
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 CPU Model          : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650L v4 @ 1.70GHz
 CPU Cores          : 2 @ 1699.998 MHz
 CPU Cache          : 16384 KB
 AES-NI             : ✓ Enabled
 VM-x/AMD-V         : ✓ Enabled
 Total Disk         : 49.2 GB (1.7 GB Used)
 Total Mem          : 3.8 GB (365.1 MB Used)
 System uptime      : 0 days, 0 hour 6 min
 Load average       : 0.32, 0.48, 0.27
 OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 12
 Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
 Kernel             : 6.1.0-13-amd64
 TCP CC             : cubic
 Virtualization     : KVM
 IPv4/IPv6          : ✓ Online / ✓ Online
 Organization       : AS29551 Aixit GmbH
 Location           : Frankfurt am Main / DE
 Region             : Hesse
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 I/O Speed(1st run) : 427 MB/s
 I/O Speed(2nd run) : 438 MB/s
 I/O Speed(3rd run) : 431 MB/s
 I/O Speed(average) : 432.0 MB/s
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 Node Name        Upload Speed      Download Speed      Latency     
 Speedtest.net    1042.09 Mbps      974.57 Mbps         3.81 ms     
 Los Angeles, US  135.34 Mbps       969.66 Mbps         144.97 ms   
 Dallas, US       221.79 Mbps       983.40 Mbps         117.04 ms   
 Montreal, CA     145.04 Mbps       754.80 Mbps         86.51 ms    
 Paris, FR        764.45 Mbps       899.51 Mbps         19.38 ms    
 Amsterdam, NL    1029.75 Mbps      987.80 Mbps         6.85 ms     
 Shanghai, CN     157.56 Mbps       961.02 Mbps         213.23 ms   
 Hongkong, CN     137.89 Mbps       956.60 Mbps         268.69 ms   
 Mumbai, IN       236.83 Mbps       967.04 Mbps         114.33 ms   
 Singapore, SG    178.67 Mbps       940.76 Mbps         265.66 ms   
 Tokyo, JP        172.91 Mbps       956.57 Mbps         227.91 ms   
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 Finished in        : 5 min 24 sec
 Timestamp          : 2024-02-07 15:31:15 UTC
----------------------------------------------------------------------
root@storage-starter-test:~#

While this diskspeed result is actually missleading a bit, as its the primary NVMe disk and not the additional ones....

The additional disks have each actually a 50 MB/s ratio configured, while the Advanced / Pro Storage products will have a 100 MB/s and 150 MB/s ratio.

And as to TOS/AGB: Yes we dont have any. Up until now we had no reason to limit the rights of the customers from what is defined according to german law.

So that means in general: Its all allowed, that is not against german law. While the german law also says that customers are not allowed to damage things they lease. Which means in our case as an ISP: Harming the IP reputation / network / infrastructure stability is of course a problem and of course not allowed. But usually thats somehow common sense, so there was, up until now, no reason to write this somewhere.

lukast__ · February 2024

@layer7 said: But honestly, this configuration makes actually not too much sense. An identical configuration with the regular cloud servers will be a lot cheaper. So taking the Storage Server product makes only sense, if you want to add more than 1 additional disk -- up to 3 are possible ( but not orderable through the shop.. lol... what fail... ). Will be corrected asap.

You're absolutely right - I didn't look at all products. But the 'Mid CPU 2Cores-8GB-80GB FRA1' with 1TB for 50,04€/year looks really attractive...
I have two questions:
1. On the speedtest you posted, nested virtualisation is enabled, is that also enabled on the 'Mid CPU 2Cores-8GB-80GB FRA1' server?
2. Do you guarantee any availability?
But overall, I am tempted to buy one of the servers...

layer7 · February 2024

Hi,

you choose yourself the CPU emulation and settings, as well as NIC emulation, Controller and bla bla what ever settings.

So yes, nested is activated by default and can be turned on / off according to the needs of the customer
Contractually we dont guarantee anything. But we exist since 2003, cant be that bad...
I just found an outdated profil of us from some german comparison website.

https://www.hostsuche.de/firmendetails.php?id=813&task=4

Hrhr, shows an avarage of 95,74%

-- including some months in a row with 0% -- i assume they tested something that didnt exist at that time, while most probably we were not offline for 4 months in a row and still surviving that business wise...

The real avarage seems to be somewhere >99,xx%

WhiteRoseG · February 2024

@fluffernutter said:

@c1vhosting said:

@Maelstrom36 said:

@c1vhosting said:

@Andreix said:

@zGato said:
@Calin

Well... forgot to mention that I'd like a provider, so by definition no Calin, FlorinMarian, c1vhosting ... etc.

lowenddrama

Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth.

nice philosophy

dude I have to know why you're trying to maintain this narrative that you own this super awesome datacenter that no one has ever seen or is allowed to see, genuinely what is the point of this? Calin is honest about hosting from a residence and people still like him and use his service. You dodging this basic question that multiple people are asking is really weird, just say the servers in an apartment or a garage or something and let the actual service you provide speak for itself. It just makes you look way way worse this way.

Iam still waiting for photos with Italian sisters.

lukast__ · February 2024

@layer7 said: The real avarage seems to be somewhere >99,xx%

That should be absolutely enough for a third MX + backup server
Just one last question: What datacenter is FRA1 (I don't want to save backups in the same datacenter as my main server)
Thank you for your fast responses.

@layer7 said: -- including some months in a row with 0% -- i assume they tested something that didnt exist at that time, while most probably we were not offline for 4 months in a row and still surviving that business wise...

Yes, that doesn't seem realistic

Calin · February 2024

@WhiteRoseG said: Iam still waiting for photos with Italian sisters.

>

Same , @c1vhosting please ! ! ! I'm want compare with my romanian sister

layer7 · February 2024

@lukast__ said:
Just one last question: What datacenter is FRA1 (I don't want to save backups in the same datacenter as my main server)
Thank you for your fast responses.

Hi,

FRA1 = AS29551 = Aixit datacenter, thats our main location

And you are always welcome :-)

Feel free to ask what ever, preferred via private message, as i am not sure how much generous this forum is with offtopic stuff ^^;

Andreix · February 2024

@layer7 said: i am not sure how much generous this forum is with offtopic stuff ^^;

Oh well... you may have missed the hazi topics for sure...

jayjay · February 2024

@Andreix said:
Hi there,

Looking for a cheap-ish server in EU with 2x 10 TB HDD (hw raid preferred, but software is also fine).
Even if not required really, 1 Gbps+ speed would be appreciated.
IPMI/iLO/iDRAC is a must.
CPU/RAM, cand be as low as a quad-core with 8 GB RAM.

Bare metal only please.

Won't make too much of a traffic, will be using it mostly to store some backup of a backup server (aka won't be a main backup server).

Thanks.

Got this available to deploy pretty quickly in the UK:

Xeon E5-1620 v2 (4 cores/8 threads, 3.70 GHz)
64 GB RAM
1 x 1 TB SSD
3 x 8 TB HDD (RAID 5) - 16 TB usable
IPMI included
1 Gbit Port - Unmetered, fair use. I've assumed you'll have peak usage at some points during backups.

Cost: US$85/mo (~EUR 80). We havent listed it on our website, https://www.mlnl.host/ as its not a typical setup we offer.

vsys_host · February 2024

@Andreix

We can provide

CPU: E5-2620V3 (6×2.4Ghz)
RAM32GB DDR4
STORAGE: 2×10Tb HDD
DRIVE FOR OS: 250GB SSD
PORT: 1 Gbps
BANDWIDTH: 1Gbps Unlimited
IPV4/IPV6: /32 /64
ROOT ACCESS: SSH, Panel
FREE SETUP: ✓
DEPLOYMENT TIME: <48H
COST: $249 $129 / month

Write to us via email [email protected] or live chat and specify in the message that you are from Lowendtalk to get servers at a discount.

Andreix · February 2024

@vsys_host said:
@Andreix

We can provide

CPU: E5-2620V3 (6×2.4Ghz)
RAM32GB DDR4
STORAGE: 2×10Tb HDD
DRIVE FOR OS: 250GB SSD
PORT: 1 Gbps
BANDWIDTH: 1Gbps Unlimited
IPV4/IPV6: /32 /64
ROOT ACCESS: SSH, Panel
FREE SETUP: ✓
DEPLOYMENT TIME: <48H
COST: $249 $129 / month

Write to us via email [email protected] or live chat and specify in the message that you are from Lowendtalk to get servers at a discount.

Hi,

Found something already. But thanks a lot, will reach you out if something changes!

vsys_host · February 2024

@Andreix said:

@vsys_host said:
@Andreix

We can provide

CPU: E5-2620V3 (6×2.4Ghz)
RAM32GB DDR4
STORAGE: 2×10Tb HDD
DRIVE FOR OS: 250GB SSD
PORT: 1 Gbps
BANDWIDTH: 1Gbps Unlimited
IPV4/IPV6: /32 /64
ROOT ACCESS: SSH, Panel
FREE SETUP: ✓
DEPLOYMENT TIME: <48H
COST: $249 $129 / month

Write to us via email [email protected] or live chat and specify in the message that you are from Lowendtalk to get servers at a discount.

Hi,

Found something already. But thanks a lot, will reach you out if something changes!

We will be happy to help!

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