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PHP-Friends vServer S vs Avoro Rootserver S

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  • Long time no see PHP-Friends special offers...

  • @angstrom said:

    I see, this page says:

    Bis zu diesem Wert können Sie Ihre dedizierte 1 GBit/s-Netzwerkkarte voll ausnutzen.

    At the same time, it's a bit odd that they don't say this in the descriptions of the servers:

    https://php-friends.de/vserver-ssd

    @PHP_Friends Can you comment on this ?

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @angstrom said:

    I see, this page says:

    Bis zu diesem Wert können Sie Ihre dedizierte 1 GBit/s-Netzwerkkarte voll ausnutzen.

    At the same time, it's a bit odd that they don't say this in the descriptions of the servers:

    https://php-friends.de/vserver-ssd

    They said (which is also confirmed by benchmarks), that it is 1 Gbit/s guaranteered (dedicated may be misleading) and 10Gbit/s burst. (See https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3461557#Comment_3461557)
    The new servers than may be the same except for the lower hardware connectivity?
    Could @PHP_Friends clarify that?

  • emghemgh Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @remy said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:
    Avaro.eu are already the new package. Am I right ? @PHP_Friends

    Yes, that's the one I use.
    But I'd also like to be able to buy them cheaper on php friends with an annual contract.
    That's what I'm looking for :)

    Avoro and PHP-Friends are same company, so just open a ticket and ask them.

    Avoro is their new line-up. Its coming to PHP-Friends with contracts. It's not there yet.

  • @angstrom said: At the same time, it's a bit odd that they don't say this in the descriptions of the servers:

    to trick customer

  • Avoro is there new line they Redesigning the PHP-Friends website

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @seman said: to trick customer

    How can they trick customers by hiding a (good) feature?

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    And @PHP_Friends, according to https://bgp.he.net/AS58212#_peers you have only 2 IPv4 peers? If I remember correctly (which doesn't have to be the case) it were more in the past?

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    @lukast__ said:
    And @PHP_Friends, according to https://bgp.he.net/AS58212#_peers you have only 2 IPv4 peers? If I remember correctly (which doesn't have to be the case) it were more in the past?

    Hi,

    We will answer your questions shortly, we are still waiting for the developers. Basically, 1 GBit/s is always available.

    We have significantly more than 2 IPv4 peers.

    Thanked by 1lukast__
  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @PHP_Friends said: We have significantly more than 2 IPv4 peers.

    Yes, but somehow I see much higher latencies. From a strato server where I had previously (2 weeks ago) <5ms ping to a server hosted by you, I now have >60ms ping, and from home I previously had ~30ms ping and now ~50ms ping. Did something change?

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    @lukast__ said:

    @PHP_Friends said: We have significantly more than 2 IPv4 peers.

    Yes, but somehow I see much higher latencies. From a strato server where I had previously (2 weeks ago) <5ms ping to a server hosted by you, I now have >60ms ping, and from home I previously had ~30ms ping and now ~50ms ping. Did something change?

    Please open a ticket -> [email protected] :)

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @PHP_Friends said: Please open a ticket -> [email protected] :)

    Ticket (#518123) is open.

    Thanked by 1dataforest
  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    And I have one last question: Are the CPUs in the new servers the same, because previously it was "AMD EPYC 7452" specified, now only "AMD EPYC".

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    @lukast__ said:
    And I have one last question: Are the CPUs in the new servers the same, because previously it was "AMD EPYC 7452" specified, now only "AMD EPYC".

    We have different AMD Epycs active, Genoa is planned :)

    Thanked by 3nick_ lukast__ dev_vps
  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @PHP_Friends said: We have different AMD Epycs active, Genoa is planned :)

    That's great!

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @PHP_Friends said:

    @blackjack4494 said:
    Already excited. Any ETA?

    Yes, probably January

    Any update?

  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @dataforest said:

    @blackjack4494 said:

    @PHP_Friends said:
    We are currently rebuilding PHP-Friends, the same products will also be offered there, but we still have to publish an update for our control panel, please note, however, that the products at PHP-Friends are always associated with a contract and a notice period for cancellations, therefore usually cheaper than the counterpart at Avoro as a prepaid server.

    Already excited. Any ETA?

    Yes, probably January

    Sorry for the bump, but is there any progress/news regarding this?

  • @lukast__ said:

    @dataforest said:

    @blackjack4494 said:

    @PHP_Friends said:
    We are currently rebuilding PHP-Friends, the same products will also be offered there, but we still have to publish an update for our control panel, please note, however, that the products at PHP-Friends are always associated with a contract and a notice period for cancellations, therefore usually cheaper than the counterpart at Avoro as a prepaid server.

    Already excited. Any ETA?

    Yes, probably January

    Sorry for the bump, but is there any progress/news regarding this?

    something mega profound is on its way...

    Thanked by 1lukast__
  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    @lukast__ said:

    @dataforest said:

    @blackjack4494 said:

    @PHP_Friends said:
    We are currently rebuilding PHP-Friends, the same products will also be offered there, but we still have to publish an update for our control panel, please note, however, that the products at PHP-Friends are always associated with a contract and a notice period for cancellations, therefore usually cheaper than the counterpart at Avoro as a prepaid server.

    Already excited. Any ETA?

    Yes, probably January

    Sorry for the bump, but is there any progress/news regarding this?

    Yes, we're working hard on releasing this May, unfortunately we had some urgent tasks which needs to be done first :)

  • @dev_vps

    windows server 2022, yt 4k - statment please.

    Thanked by 1dev_vps
  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @hyperblast said:
    @dev_vps

    windows server 2022, yt 4k - statment please.

    Looks great. 👍🏼👍🏼
    Memory under 6 GB
    cpu %usage under 50%

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    Could you redo the YABS? I would be interested whether these insane speeds remain or if the node simply was empty.

  • @lukast__ said:

    Could you redo the YABS? I would be interested whether these insane speeds remain or if the node simply was empty.

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2024-04-22                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Tue May  7 06:30:39 PM CEST 2024
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 9374F 32-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 4 @ 3699.958 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 15.6 GiB
    Swap       : 1024.0 MiB
    Disk       : 49.1 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-21-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : dataforest GmbH
    ASN        : AS58212 dataforest GmbH
    Host       : DF Cloud
    Location   : Frankfurt am Main, Hesse (HE)
    Country    : Germany
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 400.22 MB/s (100.0k) | 5.29 GB/s    (82.7k)
    Write      | 401.28 MB/s (100.3k) | 5.32 GB/s    (83.1k)
    Total      | 801.51 MB/s (200.3k) | 10.61 GB/s  (165.9k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 19.83 GB/s   (38.7k) | 25.36 GB/s   (24.7k)
    Write      | 20.88 GB/s   (40.7k) | 27.05 GB/s   (26.4k)
    Total      | 40.72 GB/s   (79.5k) | 52.42 GB/s   (51.2k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 6.87 Gbits/sec  | 4.16 Gbits/sec  | 15.1 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 13.2 Gbits/sec  | 8.43 Gbits/sec  | --
    Telia           | Helsinki, FI (10G)        | busy            | busy            | 26.0 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 752 Mbits/sec   | 1.38 Gbits/sec  | --
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 406 Mbits/sec   | 578 Mbits/sec   | 326 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 805 Mbits/sec   | 13.6 Mbits/sec  | 147 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 1.34 Gbits/sec  | 2.30 Gbits/sec  | 82.2 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 719 Mbits/sec   | 635 Mbits/sec   | 189 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 6.58 Gbits/sec  | 8.30 Gbits/sec  | 14.8 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | busy            | busy            | --
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 624 Mbits/sec   | 2.02 Gbits/sec  | 91.1 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | busy            | 449 Mbits/sec   | 321 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 935 Mbits/sec   | 1.19 Gbits/sec  | 147 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 1.10 Gbits/sec  | 2.28 Gbits/sec  | 81.6 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 695 Mbits/sec   | 918 Mbits/sec   | 189 ms
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 2245
    Multi Core      | 7185
    
    Thanked by 1lukast__
  • lukast__lukast__ Member, Megathread Squad

    @hyperblast said: Eranium | Amsterdam, NL (100G) | 13.2 Gbits/sec | 8.43 Gbits/sec | --

    @dataforest even over 10 Gbit/s?

  • dataforestdataforest Member, Host Rep

    @lukast__ said:

    @hyperblast said: Eranium | Amsterdam, NL (100G) | 13.2 Gbits/sec | 8.43 Gbits/sec | --

    @dataforest even over 10 Gbit/s?

    Servers are connected with LACP, so yes

    Thanked by 1lukast__
  • @lukast__

    ---------------------------- network-speed.xyz ----------------------------
          A simple script to test network performance using speedtest-cli
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Version            : v2024.04.14
     Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash
     Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash -s -- -r 
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic System Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CPU Model          : AMD EPYC 9374F 32-Core Processor
     CPU Cores          : 4 @ 3699.958 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 512 KB
     AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : ✔ Enabled
     Total Disk         : 49.1 GB (4.9 GB Used)
     Total RAM          : 15.6 GB (352.9 MB Used)
     Total Swap         : 1024.0 MB (0 Used)
     System uptime      : 0 days, 1 hour 17 min
     Load average       : 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
     OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 12
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 6.1.0-21-amd64
     Virtualization     : KVM
     TCP Control        : cubic
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic Network Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Primary Network    : IPv6
     IPv6 Access        : ✔ Online
     IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
     ISP                : dataforest GmbH
     ASN                : AS58212 dataforest GmbH
     Host               : DF Cloud
     Location           : Frankfurt am Main, Hesse-HE, Germany
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest.net (Region: EUROPE)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server
    
     ISP: dataforest
    
     Nearest          0.24 ms     0.0%    12539.63 Mbps  7307.65 Mbps   FynnCraft Minecraft Network - Dortmund
    
     London, UK       11.13 ms    0.0%    4.14 Mbps      5291.18 Mbps   M247 Ltd - London
     Manchester, UK   20.88 ms    N/A     9357.76 Mbps   3876.86 Mbps   Vodafone UK - Manchester
     Dublin, IE       27.12 ms    0.0%    7006.46 Mbps   2991.03 Mbps   Three Ireland - Dublin
     Amsterdam, NL    7.24 ms     0.0%    17999.31 Mbps  8835.13 Mbps   Melbicom - Amsterdam
     Eygelshoen, NL   10.12 ms    0.0%    16824.11 Mbps  3241.05 Mbps   SkyLink Data Center BV - Eygelshoven
     Paris, FR        8.54 ms     N/A     4483.61 Mbps   1297.41 Mbps   ORANGE FRANCE - Paris
     Marseille, FR    FAILED
     Madrid, ES       28.41 ms    0.0%    12932.05 Mbps  2680.34 Mbps   Orange - Madrid
     Barcelona, ES    25.45 ms    0.0%    9138.48 Mbps   2918.09 Mbps   Adamo - Barcelona
     Lisbon, PT       37.81 ms    0.0%    5687.57 Mbps   2128.05 Mbps   Edgoo Networks - Lisbon
     Rome, IT         23.19 ms    0.0%    8072.23 Mbps   2396.84 Mbps   TIM SpA - Rome
     Milan, IT        13.36 ms    0.0%    2292.42 Mbps   5902.50 Mbps   Fastweb SpA - Milan
     Zurich, CH       9.74 ms     0.0%    6355.21 Mbps   7473.35 Mbps   Sunrise Communication AG - Zurich
     Frankfurt, DE    0.99 ms     0.0%    6196.75 Mbps   5184.27 Mbps   Deutsche Telekom - Frankfurt am Main
     Berlin, DE       15.43 ms    0.0%    15623.23 Mbps  1683.07 Mbps   Misaka Network, Inc. - Berlin
     Vienna, AT       13.71 ms    0.0%    8739.75 Mbps   6136.01 Mbps   A1 Telekom Austria AG - Vienna
     Budapest, HU     13.83 ms    0.0%    9220.06 Mbps   1874.27 Mbps   ATW Internet Kft. - Budapest
     Gdansk, PL       19.76 ms    0.0%    3423.78 Mbps   2861.92 Mbps   T-Mobile Polska S.A. - Gdańsk
     Warsaw, PL       18.40 ms    0.0%    9178.06 Mbps   4289.74 Mbps   Orange Polska S.A. - Warsaw
     Lviv, UA         25.92 ms    0.0%    6817.60 Mbps   1986.22 Mbps   Kyivstar - Lviv
     Kyiv, UA         28.81 ms    0.0%    3548.40 Mbps   1269.60 Mbps   O3 - Kyiv
     Bucharest, RO    28.88 ms    0.0%    3763.40 Mbps   2104.55 Mbps   Orange Romania SA - Bucuresti
     Timisoara, RO    30.22 ms    0.0%    17169.68 Mbps  490.25 Mbps    Digi
     Helsinki, FI     21.63 ms    0.0%    11158.50 Mbps  2152.36 Mbps   Elisa Oyj - Helsinki
     Stockholm, SE    29.14 ms    0.0%    10188.13 Mbps  2882.89 Mbps   i3D.net - Stockholm
     Oslo, NO         21.28 ms    0.0%    9217.54 Mbps   3293.80 Mbps   Telia Norge AS - Oslo
     Moscow, RU       39.75 ms    0.0%    7294.56 Mbps   2307.90 Mbps   MTS - Moscow
     Petersburg, RU   36.31 ms    0.0%    9227.74 Mbps   2230.77 Mbps   MegaFon - Saint Petersburg
     Istanbul, TR     37.85 ms    0.0%    9081.40 Mbps   2149.21 Mbps   Turkcell - Istanbul
     Tbilisi, GE      FAILED - IP has been rate limited. Try again after 1 hour.                                      
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Avg DL Speed       : 8708.34 Mbps
     Avg UL Speed       : 3421.93 Mbps
    
     Total DL Data      : 343.30 GB
     Total UL Data      : 106.90 GB
     Total Data         : 450.21 GB
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Duration           : 11 min 23 sec
     System Time        : 07/05/2024 - 19:59:13 CEST
     Total Script Runs  : 42704
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    

    dl speed!!!

    Thanked by 1lukast__
  • @dataforest does the EPYC Rootservers have the same IO and network speed as the above tests?

    Thanked by 1lukast__
  • fyi - 20$/year vps in netherlands ;)

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Avg DL Speed       : 8214.37 Mbps
     Avg UL Speed       : 3517.47 Mbps
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