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idle, no traffic, no cpu, no nothing ^^
Here, all providers will want a min-year contract, which in terms of cost is equivalent to buying your own equipment and placing it in a data center, you will not find those who have been working for many years to make a profit like Hetzner.
Yeah, bullshit.
OP needs to tell the exact stuff he runs with detailed explanation or nobody will offer him anything after these politician answers.
100x
Intel Xeon e3-1275v5
64GB RAM
1x 512GB SSD
1gbit Port.
First 3 months (paid quaterly) 85€/m each.
Dedicated ipmi (via our VPN, internal Network)
After, monthly payment cycle 39€/month each.
Cancel anytime and cheap price too.
As i understand this cpu has igpu
https://www.intel.de/content/www/de/de/products/sku/88177/intel-xeon-processor-e31275-v5-8m-cache-3-60-ghz/specifications.html
I can confirm that. Hetzner is charging us very high sales Tax although we are registered in USA.
@MrRadic can maybe help you he seems to be the best fit and can you something get you something in range of hetnzer maybe.
hetzner does custom bios stuff, cause they don't want people to use certain cpu's at full power (money) and they also don't want, that the cpu generates to much heat (money)
but there is another problem. hetzner runs out of space, that is the elephant in the room. they wanted to build a very big server park in "Gunzenhausen" but it wasn't allowed. they tried then to build one in "Ellingen" but it was also not allowed.
For EX you can disable the power limits from within the OS, and for auction servers the BIOS is not locked
The cooling is (probably intentionally) quite limited, but certainly on EX44 it is capable of slightly more than full unlocked power
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Why don t allow?
first one was agricultural land and the owner did not want a datacenter. the residents of the second property have not wanted this so far, they would rather use the land for a large commercial area (MORE WORKPLACES) or build something like an amusement park. we are talking about ~50 hectares
I think reliablesite would be the closest option if you pay upfront for 12 months or buy during a sale, if there is enough stock. Pretty sure they don't offer iGPU support though.
You could also check in with a OVH/Hetzner reseller Andy10gbit (https://andy10gbit.xyz)
100......you may need an IDC.
We can help you, but we don't actually have such old hardware in stock, we still have some older hardware (as Intel 10900K or Intel Xeon v4) or even new Ryzens/Intels, with bulk orders of course with a corresponding discount.
We are able to offer this, if you are still looking for servers feel free to reach out through a ticket or livechat so that we can provide an quote.
We can help you with this! I sent you a DM with an offer.
Yes they are kicking out the customers who started to order in bulk, don't know what's wrong with them.
They are preparing to deadpool
I'm guessing people are being kicked off Hetzner for hosting seedbox and plex servers. Recently Plex have been banning people from using their software on Hetzner Dedis.
Torrenting and plex are perfectly legal. It's what you download that's legal or not.
I doubt hetzner would ban for that, unless of course you're generating abuse.
Plex decided to ban hetzner IP ranges because some were using plex on a large scale and selling accounts to access their plex instance.
The plex license does not allow this.
In reality, it is still possible to use plex on hetzner, but this implies going through the plex relay (Bandwidth is limited)
This prevents any use of plex to offer this kind of service.
I'll DM you with some info.
Thats for sure, Hetzner suspected them, to be honest its really hard to find a legit business that will order 100 dedicated servers in one time.
Are you interested in 7950x3d's?
Funny thing, that's actually what we've been working towards and straight up in our alley.
We don't have many nodes right now which exceeds those metrics, but we can have and are gearing towards this kind of mass production -- you are exactly the type of customer we target for.
This would take a few moments (~month to two) for us to deliver, but we can make it happen no probs. We are just approaching next stage of the evolution of these: https://pulsedmedia.com/minidedi-dedicated-servers-finland.php
Even just did a progress update announcement of these: https://pulsedmedia.com/clients/announcements.php?id=623
We should have at local refurber few hundred 9700t coming available right now.
Everything else is in stock to deliver this number apart from the nodes + RAM.
We'd be happy to work with you. Please privately disclose the reason why Hetzner is kicking you out. As long as you don't cause grievance to our other customers // Illegal (as per Finnish laws) stuff we ought to be fine.
This is so true. We made the huge mistake a decade ago to take in a reseller who wanted hundreds of nodes, and was constantly bitching why it takes so long. Ended up being so that we sacrificed our own production to deliver to him ... so he could run wget in 24/7 loop to consume all BW because we had sold them to.
Huge losses, especially at the time. They had like 75-80% of all nodes in our own DC. Without most of our fleet still being on rented servers elsewhere, we would've been a goner.
You can't never allow a single customer to get too big. Even if contract terms don't say it etc. on face value ought to be fine, they just get too much power over you and your business, and increases risks wildly.
That's also why we stopped selling those 1000-2000€/Mo each servers to new customers which were custom built. Huge losses, despite the big revenue also brought in; It was just not worth it. Now we only build custom to established long term customers, and only limited spec to what we could use otherwise without a fuss as well.
Normal 42RU + 1RU nodes, it's ~2½ racks.
Really curious what they are doing too.
Also see A LOT of requests for high numbers of 7950X CPU nodes lately. Eerily similar requests.
Ah! The OG post made it seem like you were getting kicked out.
I don't see anything which could be construed as abuse here, even in the slightest.
We are probably your best bet, we don't mind 100% CPU util or any of that kind of stuff. Your node, you do whatever you please with it.
Well, i guess we are one of the "big mofos" then, yet we are open to offer him nodes
100 nodes is still revenue and by the sounds of it, all he needs is CPU power.
That's really light in comparison to seedboxers who tend to try to use 100% just 100% time, not more than that.
This sounds like you simply got hit by some security limitation, perhaps too new account with too many new servers. Hetzner has limits like that, you need to apply to get them increased.
And frankly, we do too. But it's case by case basis and not hard limits. Every facet affects the limit; Lifetime of account, revenue, profit margin, number of services, type of service, how often you change services, number of support tickets AND their nature, how easy it is to work with you, prepayment terms and plethora of others.
Right now tho, with this info 100 nodes i7-8700t or better with 64G RAM and 500G or more NVMe, you are fine with us. We just need to settle delivery time and your budget.
Funny thing, on orders of this size we prefer crypto
Paypal // Traditional finance is way too flimsy and flaky, the payments do not settle for at least 120days.
We had one customer who bought several high end servers, with all bells and whistless. Then at the latest possible moment did a chargeback on CC, that sum got deducted from our balance, and for security Paypal took 2x that, for total of 3x out of our balance. These funds were stuck for 6-12 months.
This was like 11 years back, we were new and tiny, not experienced with this kind of fraud yet. We didn't allow similar orders for many years to come after that. It was quite a lot of money for us at the time.
Might be they have just limited stock of these older systems and don't want to buy more of them, on top of potential other security measures they have.
not true....
yet he is getting offers.
Quite a nice offer, not bad at all, that CPU is much slower than i7 8700t tho.
Yea they are growing fast, they constantly have construction projects going on. Afaik tho they still have plenty of space at Finland to use.
Building new DCs, especially a new site is slow and cumbersome job.
After certain point adding cooling performance adds costs exponentially. 1RU -> 2RU. Air -> Water etc. Double the airflow, quadruple the energy expenditure etc.
@Cesslor
Ballpark what we could offer
I am presuming HW purchase pricing, all i know they got ~400 of these coming but we have not agreed on price yet.
Intel i7-9700t, 64GB RAM, 500/512GB NVMe, 1Gbps Unmetered: 38.33€/Month each.
3 Month prepayment on all new units, can be monthly renewal after. Only in installments of 8 at a time.
After 12 months you will qualify for reseller/volume discounts: https://pulsedmedia.com/resellers.php Looks like 10% discount at that point.
Before bulk purchase, recommend you try something off the shelf to see how we fit in your needs: https://pulsedmedia.com/minidedi-dedicated-servers-finland.php
The MD6 with i5-8500t is an excellent CPU performance value proposition, you may find out that having 2x of these instead of 1x i7-9700t might even be more cost effective!
Anyone else interested in these or just single units; 40.44€/Month and prepayment of 6 months when bought individually.
This is a "Pre-order" hence more strict rules than usual.
We have in stock something like 150 nodes already coming, and they would have to wait until these are delivered. They are not of this spec tho, but some may be better or even exceed.
This offer is only valid until 17/01/2024
First of all thanks for telling me your experience with big customers, to this statement it depends ofc if you use 1U nodes or blade but yeah, losing a big customer that has 2 racks can costs a lot of money.
We do not know the exact reason why hetzner won't provide additional servers to us (for now; this is not a permanent decision), and we still have servers with them. This issue came up when we ordered 350~ of their EX44 servers on the Black Friday sale (no setup fees) - maybe it was just not profitable enough for them. Before you say that's too much for a "new" account - the month prior to that, we had 450~ servers already and decided to swap them out for the EX44.
I already booked some servers with a LET provider; I don't want to jump horses around, and as @PulsedMedia described, it kind of sucks if you get one guy ordering lots of servers then disappearing completely the next day. I rather look for a "stable" partnership like we had with hetzner in the past years (apparently that was just one-sided, though). I'm waiting for them to be delivered and will see then what the next steps are.
As to why I don't buy my own hardware, getting desktop hardware colocated is hella expensive, in most cases, just the 1U/1 Tower space is 70–80% of the cost of renting a single server. If you now add kWh + the fact that we have to maintain them ourselves, we are at the same price as renting or above it, and that didn't include the cost of purchasing the hardware. We tried to build our own 4/5U custom chassis to fit a lot of main boards in it - but local providers rejected us since they asked us to get 1U per server.
My story with hetzner is not unique at all. After these posts, I got lots of DMs where people had basically the same issue and could reapply to order servers after 3 months.
@PulsedMedia Yet more people do not wish to offer him anything. Only few providers are willing to take a risk after one week lol.
I got like 25 offers per DM, more than enough.
This is more or less exactly what we are doing
It's slow to ramp on, manufacturing stuff ain't easy at volume.
Eventually the prices will fall once we hit true volume production, getting stuff off the ground takes a lot of time, patience, effort and money.
Our new platform is very dense, yet rather flexible. We should be able to push thousands of nodes in the market in upcoming years at incredible rates.
Plan is to have 3 tiers right now:
All of these will be dynamically priced based on demand and supply directly. The dynamic pricing might actually be enabled very soon, it's mostly coded and tested already, just not enabled. Eventually we will hit the sub-10€/Month price range.
Now during development we only use 1 line of base nodes, but Q1-Q3 we are considering adding some N100DC-ITX from ASRock to start validating using standard mITX boards.
We can currently put 336 nodes per standard 42RU rack. In theory we can push this to 672 nodes per rack. The first room in the new DC could go upto ~9400 nodes standard density or ~18800 double density.
We already got what 18 different models, so i would not be surprised if we hit 50+ different models in just 1 short year as we start to ramp things up.
Everyone should be able to a get a dedicated server, no matter their budget or specific needs.
How are you getting that many nodes in a rack?