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Hi @Hetzner_OL ,
This is Moopah from LowEndDetectives. Would it be possible for you to provide a statement the recent notices to large customers regarding limited or restricting further purchases?
Best,
Moopah
If you're going to pay yearly, we are available.
I figured out what purpose OP is using all those servers for. It's for idling just like the rest of us are doing.
It would be better if you would write for what you need these servers.
i5 13400 has one media engine in GPU, but i5 13500 has two. One small letter in CPU name and if you are transcoding you get 2x better throughput... but small Arc A380 is 2x faster than i5 13500 for transcoding and can encode AV1 on top of that.
Thats just a simple example.
In terms of CPU - if you get EPYC Genoa you can get performance of 8x i7 8700 in one chip.
In terms of RAM - if you go with anything DDR4 (X
EPYC Rome/Milan) you can have 512GB RAM very cheap.
People here are doing all kinds of peojects and they can guide you to better offers and if you are sure that your spec is the best bang for the buck it would be nice thing to learn where outdated i7s rock.
Ps. Hetzner doesnt kick me or anyone else I know, including some bigger customers.
Are you sure your IPs arent reported to Hetzner by someone? You may not get these notices, cause they are not about content removal, but maybe its about something they dont want to be affiliated with?
If its RDP then maybe its that... Or maybe you or people that are using these servers have something to do with sanctioned countries? Or you post your offers on some forums/Discord that is really a redflag to them? Maybe all these servers run 100% load which is causing big power bill?
Think about it, they wouldnt deny your money for no reason.
One explanation are Plex/Jellyfin/Emby transcode servers. Plex recently started restricting access for users running Plex on Hetzner's network.
Semper Gumby
Sent a message.
maybe this is the reason
OP appears to be a German resident with a U.S. based LLC. They likely aren't affected by the above.
@PHP_Friends not sure if they do have iGPU in stocks/still can do iGPU, but better shoot Tim a PM, can be a little bit costly than Hetzner but Hetzner is Hetzner
Hi,
Maybe we can help you. We have own Datacenter and Network in Republic of Moldova.
Check our dedicated servers:
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You can customize in the checkout page.
If you want GPU or other custom dedicated server,
open a ticket support with us, provide all details and we will see what we can do.
Alexhost
What are you looking to pay per server?
There are lots of comments here, which I'm not going to reply to individually, since the majority are about the same stuff anyway:
No abuse was ever received from anyone in the past years; we do not send emails, use them as proxies, or anything like that; there is simply no abuse
We are not from Russia, but actually, some providers I heard basically the same story from as we did were from the CIS area. I'm not sure if the letter that someone posted here affects those regions too, but that could explain it
What I don't understand is how most people assume you commit some type of fraud or hard criminal activity when you are not using your servers for abuse, but still need a lot of them. We are a registered company and provided valid documents to them. There is no public service running on those servers, nor are they directly accessible to third parties (seed boxes, streaming, or whatever type of service people assumed). I can fully understand that it's in the rights of hetzner to decide who they do/do not do business with, that's why I said hetzner is not an option for us - not that they are closing down or the end times are near. We still have servers with them, we are just not allowed to get more, it's still one of the best providers out there, and I would recommend it to anyone who is looking for a larger amount of servers without hesitation. Thanks everyone who did send an offer over DM, going trough them.
100 i7-8700 servers? Why don't you go for a beefy server CPU and follow the virtualization route? That's way more cost-efficient, and you're definitively not in the game for maximal performance if you're currently running i7-8700s.
Yeah, you don't use it for mining, but my guess is that strangely your CPU utilization is always 100 percent. who can claim you are mining?
Mining or not, there's no difference between high CPU utilization and mining. The problem there is power consumption.
Soo this still sounds shady since you are not answering the question what will be running on those machines
None of your business. If you could actually offer servers to me, more details could be shared, but since that's not the case, I don't see any reason to tell you that.
Well, that is what dedicated servers are for? I mean, I don't buy it to just let the system idle. I could have gone with some VPs then, which is much cheaper; the CPU usually sits at 80% for stability reasons; if that were their issue, they could have just straight up told me that and charged me additionally for that - not an issue.
Same story probably - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32242987
@Cesslor are you sure you dont generated any abuse from your servers (hacked servers that you probably dont even know), i mean any single one as automated reports are sent to hetzner - https://ip.blackhole.monster/asns?asn=Hetzner_Online_GmbH
and
https://networknoise.xyz/?filter=ASN:24940
Well, this looks shady AF for the following reasons:
Providers in this forum are few types:
a. Bottom feeders. These one are the lowest reseller tier providers, which does not have stock. For you - it is a bad provider, since he controls nothing and offers you no guarantees.
b. Regular scavengers. Those has some equipment (server hardware) and contract with DC. Those are still not in your favor as their ability to collocate 100+ physical servers are very limited or may take very long time.
c. Big mofos. These folks has it all: servers in-stock, their own DC, network, IPs etc. These are your target. But they will not engage you - remember those red flags with hetzner?
So, you are stuck in limbo here. Just move away and expect to hit a big mofo without triggering red flags.
If we generated abuse / committed crimes, Hetzner would reject us completely, not just block new orders and allow us to keep what we have - if there was actual abusive behavior going on or anything like that, they would cancel/block access to those servers too. They have their reasons, and again, I respect that. This is not a thread to flame/blame hetzner or anything; I'm just looking for something new now.
We do not use a large amount of bandwidth per server : https://ibb.co/g64dMTH (hetzner server). There is also no public service running, and we do secure the systems. We never received any abuse reports, and honestly, there is also no reason why we would get one.
@Cesslor
well you can secure what you want, there are always something you cant secure, with that much servers i doubt your security, you never receiving abuse mail from hetzner doesnt mean hetzner wasnt receiving them, then all they needed to do is inspect packets from hetzner side to verify.
What's is your budget per server or overall budget?
What reasons? No sane provider will do business with you, while such big provider with reputation blocked you. Either you change your whole tactic how you search new provider or just be honest and provide all details without hiding.
This, people here are quite open minded as long as you are honest.
What might be illegal in Germany, might not be illegal in Moldova, Bahamas, or Somewhere else. While LET is white hat, there are a lot of DMCA ignored, etc kind of offers.
As long as its not DDoS, or Port scanning, or illegal porn or drugs, there will be multiple providers here willing to offer something. If you do not explain clearly, nobody will offer you anything since Hetzner is considered reputable.
Did you pay late to Hetzner frequently?
I could imagine that I am not profitable enough for them, and they would rather sell the servers to others who utilize them less.
I've never missed one invoice; they have auto-charged the credit card for years, and it never failed once. No port scanning / DDoS porn drugs or anything like that. I already got some offers, if I order 50 servers on OVH now, they won't ask what I'm doing on these servers until they notice abuse/ other issues. It's not like we register with a VPN, pay in crypto and stay anonymous.
Also, don't forget that there is a difference between kicking someone out and not providing additional servers, they never said it was a permanent decision, but they won't for now. We still have dedicated servers/cloud servers running there, and not just 5 of them.
We have servers available across our locations and can definitely help. Will not be at Hetzner prices though but we can make a good deal for bulk orders.
We would need to understand the use case (why Hetzner terminated or prevented more orders) however to avoid wasting time of both parties.
My pet theory based on the above:
Hetzner is NOT "kicking out" Cesslor - they're capping their bill (or so it seems)
Elsewhere, there was also a reference to Cesslor being a "US LLC company account" - let's assume that this means it is a bill raised against the US LLC address in whatever (US) state.
I remember that there's some new VAT/Tax implication for Hetzner on total billable amounts with client addresses in (US) states (and some limits, which if exceeded make things a little painful or more audit worthy or something like that). All this also had some impact on their US presence.
Could it be that they're just avoiding crossing some limits that makes it "painful" for Hetzner? (pain meaning process pain and maybe some financial cost increases)?
I'm sure we have some lurking tax experts who can provide us some useful conspiracy theories based on the above?
Of course if this is happening to customers globally (with large 4-5 digit bills) then something else must be going on...
Other completely tangential theory - again financial prudence/safeguards - limit maximum invoice price for some category of clients - so if the client declares bankruptcy (etc.), Hetzner's exposure is limited?
All of the above have nothing to do with a specific client - they're just patterns and "macro" issues across Hetzner's client base.
so then keep the servers on hetzner and buy new if needed on new provider lol, why does he need totally new 100 servers on new provider? smells fishy as f*ck
Sorry for expanding our business lol. We will keep those servers at hetzner, we still need more.
Hetzner has no intent to limit paying clients unless deemed in "grey area". Whatever this means according to hetzner.
If there is known fact that there is more customers who has limits to order > 100 servers from hetz - this is isolated case. And we still have not information about the real problem here - use case for services. OP cornering answer like true political mogul. The red flag is high on a wind here.