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The end of Kiwi on clearnet?
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So we can blame KF, just not solely?
Also, it’s an obvious straw man argument, since @SirFoxy never said that Kiwi is the sole reason for any suicide
That is not what I said.
You said blaming KF soley is a far-reach, so he asked if blaming KF partly is OK, he didn’t accuse you of saying anything; he quoted what you said.
Notice the ”?”.
But he did say that KF was the direct cause of suicides which is false because there is no proof
And I answered no without saying no
So there’s no way bullying could ever increase the risk of suicide?
No you didn't
My question is unanswered.
So we can blame KF, just not solely?
Not interested in constantly checking in on this site tbh. They just kept trying to make as many enemies as possible and don't plan on stopping so their future looks bleak.
I also had to deal with deplatforming stuff and eventually just caved because it was no longer fun. Figured if it was no longer fun, no point. Not a culture warrior really and the information I put out was already disseminated or archived on easily browsable archive sites. Am much healthier since taking my websites offline.
It can but there is no proof of it ever happening.
I said no
So if someone is mentally unstable
And you start bullying the person
And the person committs suicide
You’re not morally in the wrong because there’s no proof of the bullying being what caused the suicide?
Chloe committed suicide 8 months after the thread died down and already tried it twice before the thread existed.
Terryberry actively taunted KF to find more information.
You can't blame someone without proof because that is defamation.
The beginning said (and still says):
"Nobody is really listening, but... when you've grown big enough you're causing targeted harassment to the extent these victims are committing suicide... that's a problem."
The end said:
"The site produces some awful, awful content, stalkers, radicalized individuals, and directly caused people to commit suicide..."
I have edited the wordage at the end to say:
"The site produces some awful, awful content, stalkers, radicalized individuals, and has directly contributed to people committing suicide…"
To appease you and clarify.
Still no mention of KF in their suicide notes though
You ignored my question
Also,
I can accuse Kiwi users of having psychopatic tendencies, if you really think I’ve broken any swedish law by saying so, feel free to sue me
This is what a healthy bully has to say when his victim commits suicide, that’s well-known
Do you really think a massive and orchestrated digital harassment campaign against a mentally ill person isn't going to contribute to them later committing suicide?
Accusing and saying "and directly caused people to commit suicide" are two different things.
”There’s no proof so morally it’s not wrong”
You’re not going to get any smarter reply than that
If we talk solely about Chloe becuase TerryBerry taunted and provoked KF. Chloe had a track record of lying, blaming homelessness and mental health issues, the thread dying 8 months before the suicide and trying suicide twice before the thread even existed it is a stretch to put KF anywhere near it.
But read Destiny's article its good and he hates KF so unbiased.
We are definitely going in circles though, and I have better things to do than defend the true king of the holy land joshua connor moon
Doubt it
I sent an email to Josh giving him the chance to give his perspective and he called me a furry, btw.
Free speech is holy, but lest not forget that Josh is the sole creator of the KF's clearnet troubles, and if he was less confused about his sexuality, none of this would have happened. Put simply, he's not a martyr. He's just a confused manchild.
The reason why he was in turn targeted by the trans community is because of his taunting and passive aggressive comments.
Pay the person no attention, and they will go away. Taunt them with something they cannot change about themselves, and they will make it their mission to destroy you and your life.
He broke the most important rule of them all: he talked to the lolcows.
Hahaha, funny man.
KF was about 75% an IIED site banking on safe harbour laws to stay afloat. I've seen KF deny suicides from sites which are literally/exclusively/provably dedicated to suicide encouragement. They don't really have an honest bone in their body.
On an unrelated note, I find it funny the websites first 3 years were lowkey SJWs picking on misogyny and incels, then they all became misogynist incels and trans ppl picking on trans ppl.
Are you kidding???
Please understand this lacks any sane logic, as if only peak shittiness would cause suicide and not a feeling of "this is never going to end".
The biggest problem with KF seems to be that it's a collection of scum.
Oh fuck, he just pulled a "she asked for it". What a POS.
He's got stalking and harassing to do...