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Can anyone please advise if BuyVM's throttling policy is reasonable?

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran
    edited June 2023

    @Aytch said: Going by the last 3 points (quoted below), it sounds like they generally do offer unmetered, they just had a capacity issue which will be resolved soon. However as with the majority of providers, users who use a lot more than everyone else, or who are causing others to have performance issues will be limited.

    More or less :) Normally there's 50%~75% or so spare per switch, sometimes more, just this one switch got dogged, on top of a bad link to HE where we were rushing to get 'some' room on the port.

    It wasn't very fun, but we do our best to give as much as we can w/o breaking things.

    Thanks and I hope we can make the OP even happier soon.

    Francisco

  • @febryanvaldo said:
    But it's different with Avoro, they said there is not FUP Policy, so i don't know how much "Unmetered" is this, as they use 2x10Gbps port shared. Maybe someone want to try?

    I submitted a ticket before to Avoro regarding their bw policies and they said to me there is FUP on VPS and no FUP on dedicated servers.

    They said fair use is 20-30TB per month

  • I use shit tons of bandwidth with 3x cheapest 1GB slices, and we haven't been limited yet.

    We have 3 HAProxies setup before backend website on super cheap plans and we even canceled the expensive 90€/m server that could justify our usage.

    We run a rather busy highly dynamic website that averages 50 TB traffic +/- 20% per month.

    I have no idea how much you are using to get limited lol.

    I just had to testify this as a reader of this thread because I find BuyVM generous with the limits and he can politely discuss with the user even if he exceeds them by insane amount and still offer competitive pricing.

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  • @stefeman said: We run a rather busy highly dynamic website that averages 50 TB traffic +/- 20% per month.

    This is only 18MB/sec over the course of 30 days for that usage. That's not a significant amount for a VM to utilise within a 1GB port.

  • @noobjockeys said:

    @stefeman said: We run a rather busy highly dynamic website that averages 50 TB traffic +/- 20% per month.

    This is only 18MB/sec over the course of 30 days for that usage. That's not a significant amount for a VM to utilise within a 1GB port.

    I consider it generous amount for the price, especially given its highly wanted DMCA ignored provider/location and costs pennies.

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member
    edited June 2023

    @stefeman said:
    I use shit tons of bandwidth with 3x cheapest 1GB slices, and we haven't been limited yet.

    We have 3 HAProxies setup before backend website on super cheap plans and we even canceled the expensive 90€/m server that could justify our usage.

    We run a rather busy highly dynamic website that averages 50 TB traffic +/- 20% per month.

    I have no idea how much you are using to get limited lol.

    I just had to testify this as a reader of this thread because I find BuyVM generous with the limits and he can politely discuss with the user even if he exceeds them by insane amount and still offer competitive pricing.

    Plot twist: account gets capped

    50TB per 1GB is 100% dick, but not when split three ways. But you are close to that crappy customer Francisco wants to avoid...

    Can you tell if the slices are on different nodes? That's even better.

  • stefemanstefeman Member
    edited June 2023

    @TimboJones said:

    @stefeman said:
    I use shit tons of bandwidth with 3x cheapest 1GB slices, and we haven't been limited yet.

    We have 3 HAProxies setup before backend website on super cheap plans and we even canceled the expensive 90€/m server that could justify our usage.

    We run a rather busy highly dynamic website that averages 50 TB traffic +/- 20% per month.

    I have no idea how much you are using to get limited lol.

    I just had to testify this as a reader of this thread because I find BuyVM generous with the limits and he can politely discuss with the user even if he exceeds them by insane amount and still offer competitive pricing.

    Plot twist: account gets capped

    50TB per 1GB is 100% dick, but not when split three ways. But you are close to that crappy customer Francisco wants to avoid...

    Can you tell if the slices are on different nodes? That's even better.

    I'd be perfectly fine with that lol.

    5x 3.5 USD/m is not too bad for 500 Mbps 24/7

    Not sure, if same node. haven't checked. My average based on nload is about 20-50 Mbps.

  • @concept said: They said fair use is 20-30TB per month

    Fair enough for 10 EUR per month, and 10Gbps port speed.

  • tr1ckytr1cky Member

    I had a month where I used maybe 30TB and I ran some heavy stuff, using 5+ Gbit on the 512mb ram vps, wasn't throttled.
    But my usual month right now is more like 20GB/month.

  • i think there is a throttling in some form.... either controlled or uncontrolled... look for yourself (geekbench 6 score):

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
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    #                     v2023-04-23                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Mon Jun 26 04:00:20 AM PDT 2023
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 2 days, 15 hours, 2 minutes
    Processor  : AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 1 @ 3693.062 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 961.0 MiB
    Swap       : 2.0 GiB
    Disk       : 270.5 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-9-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : FranTech Solutions
    ASN        : AS53667 FranTech Solutions
    Host       : BuyVM
    Location   : Roost, Mersch (ME)
    Country    : Luxembourg
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 66.35 MB/s   (16.5k) | 564.09 MB/s   (8.8k)
    Write      | 66.51 MB/s   (16.6k) | 567.05 MB/s   (8.8k)
    Total      | 132.86 MB/s  (33.2k) | 1.13 GB/s    (17.6k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.21 GB/s     (2.3k) | 1.96 GB/s     (1.9k)
    Write      | 1.28 GB/s     (2.5k) | 2.09 GB/s     (2.0k)
    Total      | 2.50 GB/s     (4.8k) | 4.05 GB/s     (3.9k)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 271 Mbits/sec   | 1.52 Gbits/sec  | 13.1 ms
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 151 Mbits/sec   | 1.64 Gbits/sec  | 17.8 ms
    NovoServe       | North Holland, NL (40G)   | 268 Mbits/sec   | busy            | 8.28 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 86.2 Mbits/sec  | 926 Mbits/sec   | 97.1 ms
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 54.5 Mbits/sec  | 297 Mbits/sec   | 82.4 ms
    Clouvider       | Dallas, TX, US (10G)      | 91.8 Mbits/sec  | 789 Mbits/sec   | 132 ms                           
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 102 Mbits/sec   | busy            | 159 ms                           
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 272
    Multi Core      | 233
    
    YABS completed in 42 min 9 sec
    

    network speed on a 10G vps:

    ---------------------------- network-speed.xyz ----------------------------
          A simple script to test network performance using speedtest-cli
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Version            : v2023.06.16
     Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash
     Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash -s -- -r 
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic System Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CPU Model          : AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor
     CPU Cores          : 1 @ 3693.062 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 512 KB
     AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : ✔ Enabled
     Total Disk         : 270.5 GB (3.8 GB Used)
     Total RAM          : 961.0 MB (162.9 MB Used)
     Total Swap         : 2.0 GB (28.0 MB Used)
     System uptime      : 2 days, 15 hour 55 min
     Load average       : 0.00, 0.09, 0.46
     OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 12
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 6.1.0-9-amd64
     Virtualization     : KVM
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic Network Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Primary Network    : IPv4
     ISP                : FranTech Solutions
     ASN                : AS53667 FranTech Solutions
     Host               : BuyVM
     Location           : Roost, Mersch-ME, Luxembourg
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest.net (Region: EUROPE)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server
    
     ISP: FranTech Solutions
    
     Nearest          1.15 ms     1.3%    418.08 Mbps    361.27 Mbps    Broadcasting Center Europe SA - Luxembourg
    
     London, UK       12.96 ms    1.9%    911.15 Mbps    76.41 Mbps     VeloxServ Communications - London
     Edinburgh, UK    29.21 ms    N/A     1193.03 Mbps   41.83 Mbps     Vodafone UK - Edinburgh
     Dublin, IE       20.84 ms    0.9%    590.18 Mbps    56.61 Mbps     Three Ireland - Dublin
     Amsterdam, NL    9.98 ms     1.7%    1027.16 Mbps   187.33 Mbps    GSL Networks - Amsterdam
     Dronten, NL      11.85 ms    1.2%    1183.68 Mbps   88.01 Mbps     Serverius Connectivity - Amsterdam
     Paris, FR        12.19 ms    2.0%    1228.30 Mbps   65.60 Mbps     ORANGE FRANCE - Paris
     Marseille, FR    27.87 ms    0.0%    792.67 Mbps    35.48 Mbps     GSL Networks - Marseille
     Madrid, ES       35.26 ms    1.9%    943.70 Mbps    46.20 Mbps     Orange - Jazztel - Madrid
     Barcelona, ES    44.50 ms    0.9%    958.33 Mbps    30.63 Mbps     Adamo - Barcelona
     Lisbon, PT       37.17 ms    N/A     1034.55 Mbps   19.79 Mbps     fdcservers.net - Lisbon
     Rome, IT         27.56 ms    0.0%    630.04 Mbps    41.21 Mbps     TIM SpA - Rome
     Milan, IT        14.35 ms    1.6%    612.77 Mbps    55.06 Mbps     Vodafone IT - Milan
     Zurich, CH       10.60 ms    1.3%    1391.93 Mbps   82.45 Mbps     Sunrise Communication AG - Zurich
     Frankfurt, DE    5.16 ms     1.8%    1327.54 Mbps   187.98 Mbps    23M GmbH - Frankfurt Am Main
     Berlin, DE       17.32 ms    1.8%    531.61 Mbps    41.73 Mbps     Misaka Network, Inc. - Berlin
     Vienna, AT       16.50 ms    1.0%    1194.13 Mbps   52.11 Mbps     A1 Telekom Austria AG - Vienna
     Budapest, HU     19.75 ms    N/A     1066.60 Mbps   41.28 Mbps     Yettel Hungary - Budapest
     Gdansk, PL       28.90 ms    0.5%    937.40 Mbps    34.36 Mbps     Orange Polska S.A. - Gdansk
     Warsaw, PL       25.64 ms    0.9%    826.57 Mbps    46.53 Mbps     UPC Polska - Warszawa
     Lviv, UA         42.03 ms    1.0%    415.44 Mbps    41.15 Mbps     Kyivstar - Lviv
     Kyiv, UA         38.14 ms    1.1%    1045.68 Mbps   16.75 Mbps     o3 - Kyiv
     Minsk, BY        46.74 ms    0.8%    427.51 Mbps    34.90 Mbps     A1 - Minsk
     Bucharest, RO    32.63 ms    1.1%    990.83 Mbps    21.98 Mbps     Orange Romania Communications - Bucharest
     Iasi, RO         44.14 ms    1.1%    725.64 Mbps    37.05 Mbps     RCS & RDS - Iasi
     Helsinki, FI     26.52 ms    0.8%    931.24 Mbps    37.84 Mbps     Elisa Oyj - Helsinki
     Stockholm, SE    28.05 ms    0.5%    885.22 Mbps    58.19 Mbps     i3D.net - Stockholm
     Oslo, NO         27.51 ms    2.4%    732.69 Mbps    30.28 Mbps     Speedtest.net - Oslo
     Moscow, RU       41.11 ms    2.0%    784.32 Mbps    29.17 Mbps     Rostelecom - Moscow
     Petersburg, RU   34.64 ms    1.0%    915.94 Mbps    90.94 Mbps     MTS OJSC - Saint Petersburg
     Istanbul, TR     41.13 ms    0.6%    1065.81 Mbps   12.41 Mbps     Turkcell - Istanbul
     Tbilisi, GE      77.03 ms    N/A     607.01 Mbps    10.57 Mbps     Silknet JSC - Tbilisi
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Avg DL Speed       : 885.20 Mbps
     Avg UL Speed       : 62.91 Mbps
    
     Total DL Data      : 35.33 GB
     Total UL Data      : 4.02 GB
     Total Data         : 39.35 GB
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Duration           : 14 min 52 sec
     System Time        : 26/06/2023 - 05:08:09 PDT
    
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    That looks CPU throttled for sure. You can power off and on to drop a throttle.

    CPU capping's extremely archaic at the moment. If we see a node super busy we'll just cap all 1G & 2G plans down to 25%/50%, regardless of their usage.

    Francisco

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  • tr1ckytr1cky Member

    Luxemburg 512mb vps:

    LA: 2662.50 down - 292.83 up:
    https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/1ec56bc7-3805-42aa-a571-4205631644d0

    Atlanta: 1898.28 down - 349.88 up:
    https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/07faefd2-cf2e-4157-99cb-80718543dd98

    NYC: 1127.24 down - 335.64 up:
    https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/0afe1bf2-0f52-46fa-ab22-ccc1f73c9148

    London: 2816.42 down - 1191.08 up:
    https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/c599d27a-69b0-4627-bed3-61173bb06207

    Amsterdam: 2372.81 down - 1174.36 up:
    https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/90af4400-9099-4add-ac56-8e3ebe9f8bc8

    Germany: 3462.03 down - 2123.25 up:
    https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/f49120de-eaf9-417e-a497-5eef79388998

    Dallas: 2653.92 down - 285.59 up:
    https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/12020d6b-b18b-49fd-acfe-496e3fbd5fc3

    CPU limits were not part of the results, because:
    LU: 6414.27 down - 4611.39 up:
    https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/91de1638-aedc-47a8-95f7-2b2624ac4d91

    BuyVM seems so have slow upstream right now, but back then I uploaded with around 5gbps to google drive (maybe Google has LU location)

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  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @tr1cky said: BuyVM seems so have slow upstream right now, but back then I uploaded with around 5gbps to google drive (maybe Google has LU location)

    Does a 512MB have enough buffers to push higher? You could probably tweak sysctl and see where it goes. You're a 512MB so you really shouldn't be on a 5900x, so you wouldn't be affected by the bogged switch.

    Francisco

  • tr1ckytr1cky Member

    @Francisco said:

    @tr1cky said: BuyVM seems so have slow upstream right now, but back then I uploaded with around 5gbps to google drive (maybe Google has LU location)

    Does a 512MB have enough buffers to push higher? You could probably tweak sysctl and see where it goes. You're a 512MB so you really shouldn't be on a 5900x, so you wouldn't be affected by the bogged switch.

    Francisco

    Sure, this is without any optimizations to network at all, can probably push a bit higher, I'm more than happy with the performance and there are other reasons I am a customer of yours (one of the very few LET hosts you can reasoably argue with and who don't kick you for the first thing happening that requires any level of support or human logic).
    I'm on a Ryzen 9 3900X.
    Right now I'm probably a pretty good customer, no tickets since August 2022, maybe 20-30GB traffic in a month.

    The one time I needed to use a lot of traffic (moving stuff from one cloud storage to another) the vps worked flawlessly and was faster than a 2.5gbps netcup VPS for 30€/month.
    I used 3 VPS for moving, funnily enough, netcup throttled me after an hour to 200mbps (it is their policy that when you use more than 1gbps for 60 minutes, they can throttle you to 200mbps and they also throttle after 120TB, but sucks if you're not even close to 120TB and you get throttled because of their other policy).

    Storage slices are also rock-solid and have solid i/o, I can host stuff there where scaleway S3 would render completely unresponsive.

  • @Francisco said:
    That looks CPU throttled for sure. You can power off and on to drop a throttle.

    CPU capping's extremely archaic at the moment. If we see a node super busy we'll just cap all 1G & 2G plans down to 25%/50%, regardless of their usage.

    Francisco

    buy-power-off-power-on-VM.

    ok.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @hyperblast said: buy-power-off-power-on-VM.

    ok.

    >

    Ahaha :) We have something developed to do auto capping/uncapping on CPU for abuse, but we haven't deployed it yet. Needs more testing as well as decisions on notifications.

    Francisco

  • @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said: buy-power-off-power-on-VM.

    ok.

    >

    Ahaha :) We have something developed to do auto capping/uncapping on CPU for abuse, but we haven't deployed it yet. Needs more testing as well as decisions on notifications.

    Francisco

    i hope you find a solution quickly. it's annoying that everyone suffers when a few misuse 1g and 2g plans.

  • emghemgh Member

    @Francisco said: decisions on notifications

    1-second interval updates to SMS, email & fax please

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @hyperblast said: i hope you find a solution quickly. it's annoying that everyone suffers when a few misuse 1g and 2g plans.

    Ah, CPU caps aren't quite as common now. The code was originally written when we were still selling 512's during the last crypto boom. We'd get people signup for 100 - 200 512's overnight and then try to mine whatever new shitcoin they're following.

    Francisco

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  • @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said: i hope you find a solution quickly. it's annoying that everyone suffers when a few misuse 1g and 2g plans.

    Ah, CPU caps aren't quite as common now. The code was originally written when we were still selling 512's during the last crypto boom. We'd get people signup for 100 - 200 512's overnight and then try to mine whatever new shitcoin they're following.

    Francisco

    there are some strange people.
    i just want a fast 1g plan with lots of memory and reasonably reasonable scores. geekbench 6 under 300 is lowest of the low and upload speeds of 30mbit is also rather a lousy score. there you are stuck on node 68 with such will because of some fools.

  • emghemgh Member

    @hyperblast said: 1g plan with lots of memory

  • @emgh said:

    @hyperblast said: 1g plan with lots of memory

    RAM : 961.0 MiB
    Disk : 270.5 GiB

  • @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said: i hope you find a solution quickly. it's annoying that everyone suffers when a few misuse 1g and 2g plans.

    Ah, CPU caps aren't quite as common now. The code was originally written when we were still selling 512's during the last crypto boom. We'd get people signup for 100 - 200 512's overnight and then try to mine whatever new shitcoin they're following.

    Francisco

    Pretty much all modern Linux OS recommend 2GB or higher. I would suggest to be increasing prices on small resource plans as they use more duty cycle than higher plans as a ratio to price.

    Thanked by 1Francisco
  • @Francisco said:
    That looks CPU throttled for sure. You can power off and on to drop a throttle.

    Please. In the future, "have you tried powering it off and on?"

    Thanked by 1Francisco
  • @TimboJones said:

    @Francisco said:
    That looks CPU throttled for sure. You can power off and on to drop a throttle.

    Please. In the future, "have you tried powering it off and on?"

    Please. In the future, "have you tried powering it off and on, eight times a day!?"

  • @hyperblast said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @Francisco said:
    That looks CPU throttled for sure. You can power off and on to drop a throttle.

    Please. In the future, "have you tried powering it off and on?"

    Please. In the future, "have you tried powering it off and on, eight times a day!?"

    whoosh

  • @hyperblast said:
    there are some strange people.
    i just want a fast 1g plan with lots of memory

    Agreed.

    1g = memory
    300GB = storage

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  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    I usually do a speed limit of 50% even for metered network just to make sure I dont affect all my neighbours... (for any providers)

    Thanked by 1bruh21
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