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Is this legit? lmao
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For big provider, maybe this is not an issue. But this is a lowend. A lot of the provider here is a 1 man show. Why do you think it's a 1 man show ? because they can't afford to hire other, let alone pay for advertising fee.
A lot of provider already suffered from paper thin margin ( e.g. @seriesn, @MikePT @Cam , lot of others). And your idea is to squeeze them for some more ?
Even WHT doesn't have the audacity to do so. At least they allow free provider.
There's a reason I stopped posting ads there many years ago. They don't generate revenue. Like, at all. LET does. I understand the perspective and I'm not sure I have an opinion on it, but my experience seems like it might be of enough value to mention.
Now that LET going to WHIT route, what do you think would happened ? Now that provider have to shell $200 annually. This is just cpanel fiasco all over again.
People will complain. Successful providers will pay it. Providers struggling to generate the value here will disappear. Summer hosts will largely be a distant memory.
Hard to say if that would play out to a net positive or negative.
And move to LES, and saying
$200/year isn’t a lot of money for a business and I agree that this will weed out some of the summerhosts.
I hope nobody thinks it will stay at $200. $200 will become $300, then $600, then this place will become WHT. It’s already pretty dry.
But what bothers me is the message that this is somehow necessary for the forum. It costs peanuts to maintain a forum and the ad spots should cover it several times over. To me this sounds like @jbiloh has lost interest in the forum and needs cash to justify taking any time away from his main business. Fair enough, but don’t wrap it in that covering costs talk.
As usual, this was implemented in a shady and forceful way.
Biloh cares so little about the community that he was unable to stand up and make an official announcement. Only after someone else broke the news he managed to confirm the information.
That's easy: every provider keeps spaming threads
YUGE missed opportunity, should've just rolled out some LET NFTs
Last couple rare times I visited LEB & LET it was filled with the exact same 1-2 providers over and over, you might as well set a big banner and redirect to your quite obviously affiliated host(s).
Absurd decision with all the BSA ads its more than enough to upkeep a blog and forum that doesn't appear to have been majorly upgraded or invested in and just seems like an excuse to further line your pockets. The excuse that it costs $22k/yr to up keep the 2 sites is also laughable.
I've also stopped renewal on our LEB ads which we've had for whatever many years.
Already replied to the gmail email but posting here as well to remove our provider tag and quite funny actually you guys went through the whole emailing invoices to everyone without notice.
I requested a password reset on https://billing.lowendtalk.com/ so I could actually login to the billing account you made for me. I was curious to see what details you used for things like name/address/phone/etc.
Plus, I figured access to a helpdesk may be useful.
Still no password reset sent to me. =/
What if the Summerhost's intention is to pay 100$ upfront, amass a busload of accounts (easily recouping the 100$) and close in 6 months? I don't think putting up the 100$ is going to dissuade summerhosts, it might actually work better in their favor. Users would assume that the "provider" tag legitimizes the business and give a false sense of security.
sure, it will dilute the perceived value of that tag
I love how this was never responded to or adressed as in the replies which would imply that its in the works xD
Even if he does, it wont work in court.
its a prepaid service, so no netcup signature moves here.
but i would expect annual, biennial and triennial plans coming 🤣
I have an amazing solution to this.
We could increase the price even more, so that scam operations would not be worth it.
/s
why would they raise barrier to entry?
//s
And it begins. Paying to be an "elite" member. This will almost eliminate drama and will bring false sense of security. The downfall will accelerate.
Personally I will visit LET less. Now it is "a market" and soon we will see "did you check the offers section?"...
Cya boomer. This is an awesome way to weed out the shitscammers.
If you check the order page you can see those plans are indeed there, and they even come with small discounts.
Nice numbers. Congrats. Well earned no doubt.
looooooooool
We are going to make some adjustments to account for cases like this.
The extremely high fees charged for premium memberships at WHT is not a leading cause of why their audience faded away, at least in my opinion.
The new fee model will reduce summer hosts, agreed.
All of the proceeds from this initiative will be reinvested back into the platform.
I spend an enormous amount of time on our community so I don't believe it's fair to say I don't care. I do agree that I should have sent an email to the providers rather than relying on the stick thread though. Lesson learned there.
Since about a year ago we have increased the process related to approving provider tags. Now there is somewhat of a review that takes place. The goal is to reduce or eliminate summer host related scam risk.
Interesting that Triennial costs more per year than Biennial. $186/y vs $180/y.
I guess the pricing preys on people who have been trained to assume that bulk is cheaper, it's not actually expecting people to do the math.
Ha I actually didn't notice that either, so I guess I would have been preyed on too. Maybe whoever set it up did their math incorrectly? Willing to bet human error for this one.
But scams are highly lucrative, so I don't know, they would feature more prominently than legit ppl AND look like endorsed in some way.
You win..
$380/2yr = $190/yr, $560/3yr = $186/yr
I think you need a new calculator
Human error. Thanks for bringing to my attention, will get it fixed.