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Is this legit? lmao
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Why was the provider tag cleanup announced publicly but not this? I think that ordinary members have a right to know whether the provider tag is being gatekeeped by money or not.
My concerns are already expressed by others better than me, so I won't go into it since complaining and criticisng is not my strong suit or something I enjoy doing.
For once I actually agree: The end is nigh.
I'd say that $16/Month to get your brand exposed and engaged with the community (and to obtain business) is quite fair, providers who are active and highly engaged with the community tend to be rewarded the most. Those who come and go, often shine for a little bit but don't stay committed (invested) in their brand, those are the ones that are probably not willing to pay the fee to begin with (as they would of neglected their brand in the long run anyway). When you invest in your company, you're always thinking about how to provide more and to get more. At the end of the day it's a tax write-off for the provider as well
I understand some people don't like change - but it's important to keep in mind that LEB/LET has always been free up to this point, and continues to be free for host reps and LET members. $100 over 6 months to advertise here and earn exposure + additional business, I am pretty confident that most providers would be willing to do, as they earn more than $16/month via their sales/products. At the end of the day customers shouldn't be transacting or doing business with any provider who isn't willing to invest $16/month into their brand/marketing anyway.
I'll take the switch from provider to troll + host rep if that's ok. No plans to advertise in the immediate future.
How much will the Admin tag be
Although I don't have a horse in this race, the change from $0 / 6 months to $100 / 6 months is pretty dramatic.
My guess is that smaller providers and/or those providers who advertise only once or twice a year will simply drop out. We'll be left with a handful of usual suspects who advertise frequently. More uniformity and more predictability, but less variety and less interesting, which may ultimately drive both providers and participants elsewhere.
But the reason you are successful is firstly because your prices are cheaper than most others (which you won taking the risk - imagine if you had not?) and now you're the one talking about investing when you fully know you know that you are not lowend to be investing the amount you are. You come across as lowend to users because of your prices but I am pretty sure you have a much more larger budget than a one man or small team provider, should you not be paying more to lowend for your provider tag? How fair now that does that sound? I only said that to make the point that 16 dollars for you is nothing but not everyone is posting your incredible mass promotions nor can they afford to. Added to different people's income earnings etc, you may be in a financial position where 16 dollars a month for you is nothing, but in some lands, that is the price for food for 5 days.
You are a perfect example of my expressions here. You offer a darn good service at a price that is so super cheap that I would hate to think so much of your 'profits' would have to pay this amount of money just for a provider a tag.
This is quite surprising. This isn't something a small business like myself could absorb easily. In addition, LET does not generate any new business for me. The traffic is nice, but unless that converts to sales, I cannot recoup the cost of $200 per year. This might be more successful for providers that offer hosting services.
Unfortunately, that's not the case for me. I don't expect my situation to be similar to everyone else, but I wanted to provide additional perspective.
Why wasn't something similar to WHT done with its premium memberships?
ie. have a basic feature set for providers that is free including posting offers but offer a premium membership aswell for more frequent offers etc
Took me a sec to realize the email was not a scam.
This place is a race to the bottom, $100/6 months is kind of a lot when you are selling $3 VPS hosting plans 😂
I'd say $12/year would be cool, I'd sign up, but for $200, no thank you!
This doesn't work unless LET removes bumping. There's already an ongoing issue where Racknerds threads never get sunk (and when they do they get unsunk by @jbiloh or similar).
Not all providers are equal here. I already said it in the private thread that the only thing this membership should cover is the role and ability to post. Nothing else. Management can't be trusted to be impartial or to not fuck with things as they've done since the day they took it off Joel.
Francisco
Larger providers like VirMach or EntryBytes can easily afford the $200/year advertising fee.
It's the revenue of 5~10 VPS, basically nothing.
However, $200/year would be too steep for small providers who sells each VPS for $3/year.
I guess there wouldn't be BF-DOLLA-NAT this year on this forum.
Maybe allow Host Rep to post offers in MegaThreads?
This would be a compromise: small providers don't have to pay and can't have their own Offers threads, but we can still have BF-DOLLA-NAT on holidays.
Maybe put a price of 50 cents per post in the provider's threads paid by Dustin the provider.
If you don't see value in advertising then you can convert to a free Host Rep account.
I hope to earn your support at some point.
Something to consider, thanks for the suggestion.
Have you considered the feelings of @VirMach ?
(insert route 2 bus picture)
So no more new hosts, new discoveries, one-time deals from those, etc ... just same old boring residential hosts spamming from now on. Can it get more boring?
Do you really want to be using a hosting provider who cannot allocate $16/month to their marketing budget?
This is a pretty dumb argument.
I've already put a ticket in to revoke my provider tag. There may be value for others, but there is none for my business.
No problem, I understand.
Thanks for being a member of our community.
Just a fyi @jbiloh, I don't agree with your approach of invoicing people and asking them to submit a ticket to get the tag removed if they don't want pay.
I won't be paying the invoice or submitting a ticket.
Can I have the push-ups specialist tag?
I'll pay 69 push-ups per year.
Regret causing you any inconvenience. I've sent you a PM.
I would have no issues with using such a provider.
Why not charge for per advertisement post + some Low-end charges for provider tag.
Say,
Tier 1 (less frequent poster)
$15 yearly for tag + $10 per advert post
Tier 2 (more frequent poster)
$30 yearly for tag + $5 per advert post.
It will lower the entry bar but still not free. Probably everyone will keep their provider tag with that price and yet will give more money to LET when a new advert post is made.
Management and oversight of such an approach would be extremely time intense given our current software implementations.
That's the dumbest argument I ever heard. You did not built this community and you know a shit what LET/LEB with variety of newly discovered hosts in budget segment was. For you is just a milking cow and no stupid tutorial no one gives a shit about or new spam offer from residential host can change this.
Stop rumbling. LET was actually interesting community before all you vultures came in.
Well, I suppose, we will have to agree to disagree.
I've spent an immense amount of time over the past years building and improving LEB and LET. Not always perfect, but always with the best intentions and my greatest effort. Sorry to have let you down.
You should know your community better lol.
YOLO all the way. Half of the community would even buy from cociu again if its cheap enough.
I've come from the dephts of inactivity because of that invoice.
Still thinking if i should get active here again, since when i would pay for the tag it better be worth it and not idle
However i don't have any metrics how many people actually came from LET to me, so i don't know if it's worth it.
But supporting a project is always nice, in the first moment i honestly thought its some kind of spam email trying to rip off money especially since it's sent with a gmail address.