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New July Special - £1 Ryzen KVM - WebHorizon
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My custom-coded shitty IP geolocation database trusting WHOIS data, does it make sense now?
Should I ping each block of IP address to locate that this is indeed Poland?
Good. I shouldn't be requesting such information - all needed information should be on your website.
Learn how to use traceroute, or use Maxmind/DBIP databases, both of which are available for free and do use traceroute to get correct locations.
Admit that you don't have a leg to stand on and this is you just stalking LET providers because you can't do that to actual people.
What do you have to say about the Deadpooled providers who "displayed" their information and still scammed? Multiple instances in recent years, including last couple of months.
Same answer for both comments.
@alexvolk said:
What do you have to say about the Deadpooled providers who "displayed" their information and still scammed? Multiple instances in recent years, including last couple of months.
I didn't know about it! Going to use traceroute now and manually updating databases in notepad lol.
Why I should do that to actual people? Do they offer some services as a business?
Which one? There were RED flags that pointed out that they were going to deadpool.
You absolute fucking moron. If you had even a single point of IQ you'd know how to automate that and put that info on your shitty "custom-coded shitty IP geolocation database" instead of trusting WHOIS data, which as you can see here, is fuckall accurate.
The guy is trolling at this point, it's highly unlikely he maintains his own database. All he can do is to stalk people, take dumps on providers threads and jerk off to provider reactions.
Webhorizon is legit, i wanted to give away one of my licenses away for free and he donated to one of my community site even though he didn't have to, that for me shows his integrity.
OK, so because some legal businesses failed (I emphasize some), this means that providers are excused in providing transparency, and can absolutely remain anonymous? Take such pathetic arguments somewhere else to ignite your miserable drama.
@default be careful, LES gang is coming at you!
They already did. I am banned on LES since 2019. I am not worried.
Not absolutely anonymous, information is public on the internet, just not indexed properly by google.
a google maps listing too mate! https://goo.gl/maps/Ej9vLp62nMeQ447ZA
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Anyway, you do realize I was pointing out that it was fair game lamenting the lack of the information you mentioned on the provider's website. In fact, I did ask a provider about such missing information the other day, too. You know what I didn't do? Call them "utter trash" because of it. I am also sorry to disappoint you but I am not an affiliate of this provider. What's more, while I also like transparency about the provider's details (street, address, registration..), it appears providing such thorough information is at least not legally required in India from what I have read here. Also, iirc, there are also some providers that, aside from the registration number and where their company is based, don't mention their address or further details on their website. Although I'd also like more transparency, they still provide a good service. Since further discussion with you seems to lead nowhere, there's nothing left to say but to wish everyone a good day here.
So now it's about "absolutely" and relatively anonymous businesses? Dude, I don't care about what Google's transparency and indexing does for you. To be honest, I don't even care about Google in general. This is about what you (as a business) have to honestly say, and IF you offer transparency for your customers.
Put your contact information, with business registration information on your website. This will prove that your are honest, open, and transparent with your legal business, and such public discussions would not even exist. But instead, we debate around your anonymity online while you keep on providing services (maybe this makes you feel special in a twisted kind of way).
For any provider being attacked by @default and @alexvolk -- just make sure you put an address that only appears to be valid -- just like how @cociu used "Calea republicii nr 51, Oradea Bihor" as his address which on the surface appears legitimate, but there is not a single datacenter (or warehouse, which could be operated as a datacenter) on that street.
These people's due diligence skills are really weak and can't detect such things, they can only bang the table with whois and company info lookups (that too in the wrong places sometimes).
I guess you can't make the difference between: registration address, office address, business address, and datacenter address. But it's OK, maybe you do not have a company, I respect and understand your opinion.
Anyhow, thank you because you are somewhat right. Providers should "make sure to put an address" even if it appears to be valid. Further checks will bring it to light, but that is a completely different drama which is about lying where is the actual office.
Doxxing someone should not be allowed
@default thank you for the feedback. I'll keep those points in mind & update the site accordingly.
This is not going anywhere, Let's come back to the OP and end this peacefully.
@alexvolk and @default get first month free, just send a PM if required.
not anymore, guys are sick.
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we already know - WebHorizon is a proprietorship registered in Mumbai, India. IEC code AGBPW8070B
You absolutely don't wanna send the message that anyone taking a dump in your threads will get freebies as it will encourage such behaviour. Moreover, users with a proclivity towards PMSing also may turn out to be abusers and cause even more trouble for you by sending spam, performing port scans and so on.
I am peaceful, I just don't like anonymity of businesses.
And please don't try to make me your customer with a free month, because I already am your customer: I have an email plan of MXRoute for which you are reseller, and I am quite happy with it too.
Don't worry mate: I hereby promise not to take that freebie. Don't worry, be happy.
They are registered in India
If anyone wants me to take a peek at their office, DM me. I can arrange someone to visit if you really want to verify they exist at the above address.
No, you can't spy on people like that on their homes or whatever. We must give them the benefit of the doubt.
I have a better idea: send someone to take a video with an interview which can be posted in im.ge, creating publicity for both you (im.ge), and WebHorizon business too. This way we may find some live information (like plans for the future of WebHorizon and how they plan to expand or improve) straight from the owner/manager.
I am not going to spy on them since I live over here, I just said I can help people over here if someone wants to verify the authenticity.
@alexvolk Unless you have a strong evidence that a certain business is shady, don't just attack without reasons. Can we change our tone to be more neutral or friendly?
Before:
After:
This kind of toxic behaviours need to be stopped on LET.
However, I fully understand that users might be worried about of the amount of personal data submitted to the provider, so it will be good to know more about the provider before judging to use the provider or not.
Go! Go! Captain Planet!
Asking psycho stalkers to stop, that's so sweet of you.
Such users need to be immediately banned. It's already well established that they have no consistent standard, protecting a provider who has run away with money, and attacking others who provide a good service.
If I had an option to run my business anonymously I would definitely do it. Not because I'm doing something shady but I just don't want every idiot to know where I live. Especially if you are doing business on places like LET.
At first, I thought how good is your gesture but honestly, I didn't expect you to edit your message.
Anyways, I wasn't looking for a free service and I would never accept that from you, I could pay with my own pocket.
Proofs? Where did I protect HS or you're talking some BS again?
Quite users are mostly abusers and not the ones that "PMSing" over here if you need some stats.
Exactly. This is exactly why you do not run your business at your home. You should have an office, no matter how small it is. Your legal and registered business should be protected by your country and it's laws, because you pay taxes for it. There is nothing shady about it. Shady becomes when you avoid paying taxes, or you hide yourself with customer's money.
Meanwhile..
DreamHost exposed 800 million customers' data worth 86.15GB of data in total
https://www.techradar.com/news/this-popular-web-hosting-service-left-800m-records-exposed-online-for-12-hours
original article I read had a techradar . in domain, which now I understand by default (noun, not the user) on this toxic forum would make the publication shady and suspect. So posting the .com link.
Thank you for that edit WebHorizon.
Obviously I did not take your free offer because I don't need it, but taking such refusal as means to call me "sick" (when you are the one running an anonymous business), now this is smelly to say the least.
[thinking about cancelling my current active service]