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He hasn't been transparent from the very beginning of this fiasco, went to the extent of planting announcements and updates instead of mailing them, there's no way in hell he was going to be upfront about this
Not sure what wasn't rational about it?
His energy should be focused 110% on getting his paid users back online not creating test VPS-s.
Your argument about @seriesn is flawed to begin with as I'm quite sure his customers are not getting cut off from their services in the meantime.
Well then kindly explain how @cociu's giving me a test box harms his paying clients.
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Uhm, how is he f_cking his customers in this? I mean it's not that our VPSs have no IPs any more; it's just different ones. And btw AFAIK no provider gives a customer his personal IP and guarantees that it will never change.
So what's all the fuss about?
Why? Because you say so? Sorry, no. A provider is not under any obligation to explain any and all of his business decisions to everyone.
Bla bla bla. For a start he needs no excuse, he is free to buy, sell, rent IP ranges without telling us. Simple as that.
As for his reasons we all can speculate but our speculations are no basis for a judgement.
I'm sorry to say that but you are losing my respect - of which I had plenty - by the day because you obviously are a @cociu hater and love to bash him. I wonder how you would chose if you had to pick between HS having major problems and many unhappy customers - but you having a pretext to bash him - -or- HS running fine, customers being happy but you not having a pretext to bash him.
Your HS / cociu bashing has a really bad smell to it.
^Fanatizm at it's best...
It doesn't harm anyone but it's disrespectful as hell.
Have you been assigned new IP's for the storage VPS you still have live? Which ranges did you get moved to?
You're absolutely correct. I hate how he treats his customers and how the admins still allow this to go on. He should be marked banned and not be allowed back. Period.
There's likely many users that were in that range that weren't just storage, but other plans, and are now dead to the world.
Francisco
Sad but largely true.
So where do you draw the line? Is @cociu allowed to sleep? Is he allowed to have 30 minutes to lunch? Is he allowed to sleep? May he watch the news?
Your whole line is BS. cociu giving me a free VPS, or selling VPSs out of his working product range (non storage) has no influence on his tech staffs work to get the storage up and running again, none, nada.
You might as well argue that the administrative director of a cities police may not read the newspaper or have lunch because there are criminals out there on the streets.
Funny btw how some users here talk about transparency and honesty while spewing speculations and BS driven by questionable and emotional motives...
The sad fact is that we know next to nothing other than that (mainly) HS's storage boxes still are down. And THAT is indeed something to complain about and to criticize cociu. Because as customers we do have the right to get occasional status updates and as far as possible an ETA. THAT is indeed a providers obligation.
But most of the rest is just BS, venting emotions, competitor bashing, and wild speculations.
He probably could've taken a few minutes away from selling his IP blocks to forge another announcement.
Francisco
@jsg I really am baffled how do you not see any issues with it but it shows it's pointless for me to say anything more about it. If you feel it's fine good for you.
That's one way to see it. Another way to see it is that it's actually respectful because it gives customers and potential customers a neutral data based view.
As for "disrespectful as hell": sorry but in my minds eye it's disrespectful as hell to not bloody communicate with us and to run promos while our systems are down (reason: promos also bind techie resources).
I think it's 45.14 iirc. But the storage box is not live (online/working).
I hate his attitude/behaviour in this situation too. But it's neither my nor your task to bash (or blindly defend) him. In fact, you being a competitor should be held to higher standards than customers.
Probably not many but some it seems indeed.
Nothing that happens there is fine ATM, but this is a bunch of angry people preparing a lynching based on what they think cociu might think or plan.
That is wrong, for me it is clear he never planned for a scam and it is reasonable to believe he will not need so many IPs for the remaining customers after this involucration.
I would take this "opportunity" to restructure the IP allocation and it appears like he is doing just that. Even if he thinks he would keep all customers, it is probable that re-allocating IPS on a structured basis would save many and he does not expect any growth any time soon, so...
I do know that in the phase of explosive growth we, at Prometeus, launched too many products and allocated IPs chaotically.
After 8 years or so, still haven't fully recovered from that...
I am waiting for cociu on his replies, if any. I still have a very small but non-zero hope that he will be explaining the whole thing, regardless of whether good or bad, true or false.
I don't have an explanation on why they do what, but as he is relatively active / long-term in this forum, would really hope to hear something from him.
Renewing your test box over serving paying customers shows what his priorities are.
Correct, but then you have to admit that the number of clients was probably a lie, or he has very ("verry" in Cociuese) poor management skills that he couldn't think of leasing or selling off the IP range as he has done for SWAZM/NETPROTECT.
Why shouldn't we call out a provider who continues to lie?
Yes, that's the core point.
Sh_t happens and it can happen to every provider. But the fact that @cociu isn't communicating and keeps hundreds or even thousands of customers in the dark is just horrible and disgusting.
That's BS because what you call "serving paying customers" actually is something hardly under his control; it wasn't him driving up HDD prices after all and his main task isn't tech but management and I guess sales.
Providing a free test system (or even a payed for product) out of existing and configured nodes is merely some clicks.
For a start, don't try those games with me. I have nothing to "admit". I'm neither cociu nor one of his pals.
As for the true number of clients I don't know. Re the IP range I think that's totally blown out of proportion and incorrectly linked to the current clusterf_ck.
calling out a lie and bashing are different things. The former is of course OK, the latter is not, especially not if done by another provider.
Fully agreed, but this does not excuse the mob behaviour and I can understand why he is not keen to come up here.
If only he had some sort of announcement...page to post updates where he wouldn't have to worry about the mob kicking down his door.
If only.
Francisco
Pretty sure the mob is here only for the same reason, cause he doesnt say anything. No ETA-s no nothing. Meaningful at least.
As a company owner, unless the mob was literally threatening to burn down your house or something, you can always communicate to them and provide status updates on the incident.
OVH CEO's response to the SBG fire is a good example of how things should be handled.
FWIW, I offered
My Dog ate my homework.
My sister sold my IP range.
...yeah. Story checks out.
This thread be like:
HURR DURR I'm francisco and I resent cociu..
Or perhaps some kind of electronic message delivery system to the clients. Maybe using internet and some kind of a code to identify each individual users who got affected by this outage. Maybe in the future, we can also use this to delivery promotional messages to clients.
Fran has no reason to resent cociu, he has a good business with a healthy margin which someone else doesn't have
Other than the way cociu operates and the bare minimum standard he's held to when it comes to communication, uptime, etc etc
Jonny? Is that you?! Did you break out?
You'll go down, once again, backing another deadbeat brand, just like HostDoc.
I think he's a scumbag. It takes 5 minutes to post updates, if that. Yet "it's ok, he's busy selling his live customer blocks for reasons I assure you aren't that he's completely bankrupt, or the lawsuit that he swears is 100% invalid".
All I can think is that he didn't think anyone would see the block sale, or that anyone on here would be approved with an NDA to look it up.
Francisco
@Francisco I think you'll find that I'm not backing cociu, and neither did I back hostdoc when I found out he was doing stupid shit. Your intent with your statement was noted, though.
I agree that cociu is being a retard right now with the way he's handling this, but it's just really not a good look when a business (in this case you) is attacking another business (in this case cociu) and those businesses are competitors (in this case you both sell hosting) - and that has a reflection on both of your businesses.
Mr. Francisco I don't feel so good ...
Jonny
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition . Cisco is out of the league where cociu resides. This is not competition, as there is no gains from the possible win.
On this forum provider is not only business unit with "this is company view", but it is also a person. You shouldn't be voided chance to express your opinion / POV.
Now it is all about beating dead horse and expecting him to run again while ignoring very hard facts: situation is not improving in any way, but getting worse. Sum it up, review it again and you will see.
They both sell hosting. If you want to quote wikipedia, try this one: "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_(economics)"
True, but consider LET like a type of social media. That, and the majority of these posts are actually public.
100% agreed there!
Hosting product is entirely on different pricing segment. You can buy 3 servers at HS with 1 server price from buyvm. They are not equal regarding pricing, target audience, service quality.