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Strange behaviour for someone who's a provider.
This post took you a long time to write and I appreciate you posting it @jvnadr. It's perhaps the best description of these free panels in this thread.
AAPanel - Not PHP ? I am using it, it supports multi version PHPs.
Some feel control panels written in PHP are security risks so I was identifying the 2 FOSS panels that are not coded in PHP:
1) AAPanel
2) Cyber Panel
They both support PHP.
Patrick from RACK911 Labs wrote this yesterday on Webhostingtalk:
https://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1838294
It's stupid to assume that a panel is more secure just because it isn't written in PHP. :-)
No such thing as perfect panel, and second of all, most of those panels are community developed, with just funding via donations. If you want security, then go with cpanel, or DA, not a free panel
Edit: And don't forget that cyberpanel was created around 2017, while DA around 2003.
The maturity of a Control Panel matters.
Keep this thread running. I am taking ideas for my control panel.
Credit: Andrew fabbro
agree with you.
Likewise with the ApisCP which was developed in 2002.
worth considering in the future
Exactly, and cyberpanel doesn't have 10-20 full-time devs working on it but 1-2.
Apis CP, DA, CPanel all have a lot of devs, and are old, so devs had time to look over every bug, and patch it up, and every bug coming from the patch to the last bug.
Lmao. It is certainly boring to develop things from scratch and sometimes without any feedback/financial support from the actual market does demotivate you. Though I did made a billing from scratch and currently going for control panel which I did some work back in January and now waiting for AlmaLinux release.
Is your billing system available for sale and what is the link?
Is there a link for your control panel and what language did you code it in? Are you also proficient in PHP?
Are you still part of the team working on Cyberpanel?
He copied your paragraph, posted to his forum, and didn't even delete "(search LET for those)"
https://hostboards.com/discussion/4238/some-free-alternative-control-panels-to-cpanel-to-consider
Indeed I did, don't believe it's a crime, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
jvnadr created the best panel comparison.
Then at least go like at the end:
Written by: @jvnadr
Wow.
@Offshore_Solutions , plagiarize much?
Good point and your suggestion was added to the beginning of the post giving credit.
Finally it isin't plagiarism, anyways dms?
He must have missed the day in grade 7 English class when we all learned plagiarizing was bad.
Found the shady coding post you were talking about for AAPanel & it's a good read:
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3127996#Comment_3127996
Looks like AAPanel should not be considered for production.
Well, the guy was also caught using someone else's logo for his business, and from what I can gather, he doesn't have experience with managing servers. So everything points to the direction of them becoming a summer host.
https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3214905#Comment_3214898
HAHA 😄
Going to get me a shirt that says "Summer Hosting Since 2006" when I started managing servers cuz the kids on LET know everything 🤣
Still copyright infringement though. The way this works is, all countries have agreed to enter the Berne Convention agreement which grants the author of any work a legal protection against copying for their lifetime and some years after their death, by default, without needing to make an application or registration of some kind.
Also, it is never okay to just copy someone's work and just throw back a credit link of some kind. Otherwise, people could copy entire books and it would be legally allowed so long as they mentioned the author and/or publisher.
However, maybe I should just wait for @Offshore_Solutions to run their summerhost and pull an Alpharacks, instead of trying to give them classes on legal provisions. It's been long since we haven't had any drama of that sort.
I tried to buy that domain for $10. Never got a response back.
🤣
For laughs I tried to buy GreenValueHost.com but they wouldn't take less than $1,899
Hahaha, nice discovery! So, maybe "Offshore Solutions" is asking sooo many questions here to get some material for his own website!
In any case, I am used to that (unfortunately). As a professional journalist, I often see my articles on the websites I work for to be published without source and/or link to many other websites in my country.
We all are using info from several sources (printed, web, television etc.) in the context we create (e.g. quotes from interviews to other sources to include them to our story) but we should always mention the source directly and use an active link when we can. And if we use multiple sources to create a completely new article with new information, we have to include at the end of the article all the sources we took info from.
In any case, it's fine by me to repost my comment from here, it was just a post I was expressing my experience on web panels. But in general, you are absolutely right that in cases like this, the original author name should be posted - this is a rule!
Yes of course I'm asking questions to get help with my website. This thread is to find out which control panel is most like cPanel so I can use it & modify it for my server. I posted a poll between "Paper Lantern" & cPanel 3x theme so I could use the one most popular on my own server.
Isn't it logical that everyone asks questions for their personal use? A forum saves the answers to help others who later come along with the same question.
Agreed. A good portion of this forum and all forums are uncited pieces of information copied from various sources around the web. However that doesn't always mean it's plagerism in some circumstances (at least not in the USA) due to the "Fair Use" doctrine. Forum posts are held to a lower standard than books, magazines, or newspapers when "Fair Use" comes into play as detailed below.
Your graciousness and intelligent post is greatly appreciated! Thank you for permission to repost it and your username is credited as the author.
It's not "plagerism" when the use of copyrighted material falls under "Fair Use."
[The below is copied, source below]
"In the USA, the "Fair Use" doctrine allows limited use of copyrighted material without permission from the copyright holder for purposes such as criticism, parody, news reporting, research and scholarship, and teaching. There are four factors to consider when determining whether your use is a fair one. You must consider all the factors below, even though all the factors do not have to be in favor of a use to make it a fair one."
"The four factors judges consider are:
1) Purpose and character of your use
2) the nature of the copyrighted work
3) the amount and substantiality of the portion taken, and
4) the effect of the use upon the potential market."
"A use that benefits the public or that lends to education also weighs heavily in favor of a finding of fair use."
Looking closer at Factor #1 above:
1) "Purpose and character of the use, including whether the use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes: Courts look at how the party claiming fair use is using the copyrighted work, and are more likely to find that nonprofit educational and noncommercial uses are fair."
In my case, the material was used to educate others on a non-commercial (nonprofit) website. HostBoards currently has no ads, no adsense, nor any way to make a profit. I currently have no hosting business to advertise.
Sources for above:
https://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/four-factors/
https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/fair-use-rule-copyright-material-30100.html
https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/more-info.html
This does not mean non commercial or fair use.
And you're an Attorney or expert in "Fair Use"? Please continue with your explanation of why it's not.
But it's not as though you asked for his permission beforehand to repost his comment verbatim without proper attribution.
So you got the order of things wrong.
(And on my reading, I'm not entirely sure that even now he's giving you permission to repost his comment verbatim without proper attribution, but perhaps he is.)
No, you're confusing different things.
Fair use doesn't mean that your obligation to cite your sources disappears. It just means that you don't need special permission to use copyrighted material for certain purposes, but you're still expected to cite your sources.
When you reposted @jvnadr's long comment without any attribution, that was indeed tantamount to plagiarism because any reader would have thought -- since you didn't say otherwise -- that that was your own text.