Black Friday 2020 - NVMe and Storage deals - deploy worldwide

zhsso · December 2020

@hosthatch said:

@plumberg said:
How much actual usable space one gets from the 10tb ?

10 TB is the usable space.

It is not the same as 10 TB on a dedicated server with your own hard drive, where you get ~9 TB usable.

hello
my 10tb server is unable to reinstall from iso
so it will be fixed at the late time or do I need to open a ticket about it?
thanks

desperand · December 2020

@hosthatch said: How many successful businesses have you ran with all of your intellect, out of interest?

8

But you, if you will be so rude on official channel will have zero.

balaji_pitchumani · December 2020

Hurray..got 10TB server yes...Disk /dev/vda: 9.77 TiB, 10737418240000 bytes, 20971520000 sectors

Directly uploaded Ubuntu 20.1 ISO through URL and also selected Nextcloud snap and worked like a charm...however /dev/vda3 shows in fdisk -l ..but not in df -h even after i tried resize2fs on /dev/vda3..failed...nextcloud also does not show the 9.8T as available storage...surely missing something..

@hosthatch said:

@plumberg said:
How much actual usable space one gets from the 10tb ?

10 TB is the usable space.

It is not the same as 10 TB on a dedicated server with your own hard drive, where you get ~9 TB usable.

corbpie · December 2020

TimboJones · December 2020

@Daniel15 said:

@yolo_me said: got mine too. Are you seeing 2.88TB when doing "df -h" or 3TB?

I've got a 2 TB and df -h shows 2 TB:
root@chi01:~# df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/vda1       2.0T  141G  1.7T   8% /
It's possible it's rounding it up though. fdisk -l shows the disk as 1.95 TiB, and I created a 1 GB swap partition.

@MagicalTrain said: Had issues with mounting an ISO

Yeah it seems like this part of the control panel is very flaky. I have to mount the ISO several times before it actually works properly. The Debian 10 netinst ISO didn't mount properly at all (even after 4 attempts) so I instead uploaded a Debian 10 ISO, and that worked fine on the second mount. Changing the boot order didn't work the first time either; I had to do it twice before it worked properly. I shut down the server, changed the boot order to ISO only, and started it again, but it still booted from the hard drive.

I didn't realize it could work if you tried enough. I tried twice and then it was fixed in ticket. If it happens again, I'll keep trying.

Biggest peeve is needing to change pages to get proper status like running/stopped server. (Your point #1 in the list).

TimboJones · December 2020

@aj_potc said:

@Tsuyo said:

The 3TB ones and larger can be booted via a GPT partition, you can use the GParted Live ISO for that. Make a gpt disk label, and use gdisk in the shell to make a 1MB partition with partition code EF02. Then you can partition the rest the way you want it. When you install Debian via the ISO, then it will be detected. This way you can keep using the BIOS style of booting.

With CentOS, I use their graphical installer to create a 1 MB partition called /biosboot and set it to type "BIOS boot." I'm not sure if that counts as a GPT-based partitioning scheme, but this seems to be the only way those systems can address more than 2 TB of space. It sounds similar to what you're doing, so I assume both OSes handle it pretty much the same way.

I deleted all existing partitions through the graphical installer and used automatic partitioning. Nothing special needed other than installing from centos 8 minimal ISO.

yolo_me · December 2020

My 3TB server shows 2.9T. Good enough for me.

Device          Start        End    Sectors  Size Type
/dev/vda1        2048       4095       2048    1M BIOS boot
/dev/vda2        4096 6287259135 6287255040  2.9T Linux filesystem
/dev/vda3  6287259136 6291453439    4194304    2G Linux swap

MadLifer · December 2020

@corbpie said:

Same on me

skorous · December 2020

@Daniel15 said: I had to do it twice before it worked properly. I shut down the server, changed the boot order to ISO only, and started it again, but it still booted from the hard drive.

Just from my experience the biggest factor is being patient between the mounting it step and the rebooting/powering on step. I think it's a scheduled job that only runs every two or three minutes or something.

chocolateshirt · December 2020

@skorous said:

@Daniel15 said: I had to do it twice before it worked properly. I shut down the server, changed the boot order to ISO only, and started it again, but it still booted from the hard drive.

Just from my experience the biggest factor is being patient between the mounting it step and the rebooting/powering on step. I think it's a scheduled job that only runs every two or three minutes or something.

Correct. I am waiting around 2 minutes for stop/start VPS to work..

TimboJones · December 2020

@skorous said:

@Daniel15 said: I had to do it twice before it worked properly. I shut down the server, changed the boot order to ISO only, and started it again, but it still booted from the hard drive.

Just from my experience the biggest factor is being patient between the mounting it step and the rebooting/powering on step. I think it's a scheduled job that only runs every two or three minutes or something.

Does new mounted ISO take effect on reboots or only off/on? I thought only off/on.

Daniel15 · December 2020

@skorous said: Just from my experience the biggest factor is being patient between the mounting it step and the rebooting/powering on step. I think it's a scheduled job that only runs every two or three minutes or something.

If that's the case, it would be a lot better if the UI showed a progress bar or something like that. I'm just used to other hosts where the mounting happens instantly.

skorous · December 2020

@TimboJones said: Does new mounted ISO take effect on reboots or only off/on? I thought only off/on.

Only off/on but I'm fairly certain that I've had a machine that I wasn't patient enough before powering it on boot the new settings after control-alt-delete. That's what lead me to the scheduled job idea.

aj_potc · December 2020

@TimboJones said:

@aj_potc said:

@Tsuyo said:

The 3TB ones and larger can be booted via a GPT partition, you can use the GParted Live ISO for that. Make a gpt disk label, and use gdisk in the shell to make a 1MB partition with partition code EF02. Then you can partition the rest the way you want it. When you install Debian via the ISO, then it will be detected. This way you can keep using the BIOS style of booting.

With CentOS, I use their graphical installer to create a 1 MB partition called /biosboot and set it to type "BIOS boot." I'm not sure if that counts as a GPT-based partitioning scheme, but this seems to be the only way those systems can address more than 2 TB of space. It sounds similar to what you're doing, so I assume both OSes handle it pretty much the same way.

I deleted all existing partitions through the graphical installer and used automatic partitioning. Nothing special needed other than installing from centos 8 minimal ISO.

Interesting.

I'm using custom partitioning, and I recall from previous attempts that if I didn't create a biosboot partition, the installer would complain and tell me that I shouldn't proceed without it. The automatic partitioning might do this for you.

I just don't understand what exactly this special partition does. Am I really using a GPT disk, or is this some kind of workaround that allows an MBR system to address larger partitions? If the latter, is it possible to install an OS using "native" GPT, without any workaround? From what I understand, the VPS would need to boot using UEFI mode. I surmise this is determined by the hypervisor's settings.

Tsuyo · December 2020

@aj_potc said:

@TimboJones said:

@aj_potc said:

@Tsuyo said:

The 3TB ones and larger can be booted via a GPT partition, you can use the GParted Live ISO for that. Make a gpt disk label, and use gdisk in the shell to make a 1MB partition with partition code EF02. Then you can partition the rest the way you want it. When you install Debian via the ISO, then it will be detected. This way you can keep using the BIOS style of booting.

With CentOS, I use their graphical installer to create a 1 MB partition called /biosboot and set it to type "BIOS boot." I'm not sure if that counts as a GPT-based partitioning scheme, but this seems to be the only way those systems can address more than 2 TB of space. It sounds similar to what you're doing, so I assume both OSes handle it pretty much the same way.

I deleted all existing partitions through the graphical installer and used automatic partitioning. Nothing special needed other than installing from centos 8 minimal ISO.

Interesting.

I'm using custom partitioning, and I recall from previous attempts that if I didn't create a biosboot partition, the installer would complain and tell me that I shouldn't proceed without it. The automatic partitioning might do this for you.

I just don't understand what exactly this special partition does. Am I really using a GPT disk, or is this some kind of workaround that allows an MBR system to address larger partitions? If the latter, is it possible to install an OS using "native" GPT, without any workaround? From what I understand, the VPS would need to boot using UEFI mode. I surmise this is determined by the hypervisor's settings.

It's been a while since I installed centos 8, but if you're using the custom partitioning (what I also did) with a gpt disk, then the bios boot partition is indeed required. The reason why this partition is needed is a bit of MBR legacy. GRUB 2 needs that additional partition to properly write all boot loader code at the beginning of the disk.

Unixfy · December 2020

@skorous said: Only off/on but I'm fairly certain that I've had a machine that I wasn't patient enough before powering it on boot the new settings after control-alt-delete. That's what lead me to the scheduled job idea.

This is normal behavior in SolusVM, any VM settings changes don't apply until after you stop it through the panel (it doesn't work if you stop it through the OS)

raindog308 · December 2020

default · December 2020

One can simply repartition using netboot.xyz --> gparted. But with all that stop/start, I preferred to use Debian with MBR instead of GPT.

Another option is Ubuntu, but I do not like all that closed source stuff, which is shoved down my throat through snapd.

nulldev · December 2020

@raindog308 said:

I setup a shortcut that converts whatever is in my clipboard into keystrokes. Highly recommended, saves me soooo much time. Can "paste" 20 character passwords into VNC now, it's amazing.

tetech · December 2020

@nulldev said:

@raindog308 said:

I setup a shortcut that converts whatever is in my clipboard into keystrokes. Highly recommended, saves me soooo much time. Can "paste" 20 character passwords into VNC now, it's amazing.

You invented "Paste"?

raindog308 · December 2020

@default said: But with all that stop/start, I preferred to use Debian with MBR instead of GPT.

Need GPT for >3TB disk.

raindog308 · December 2020

@nulldev said: I setup a shortcut that converts whatever is in my clipboard into keystrokes. Highly recommended, saves me soooo much time. Can "paste" 20 character passwords into VNC now, it's amazing.

Emm · December 2020

My invoice date is November 28, but my VPS was created today.

Do I need to open a ticket about it?

tetech · December 2020

@Emm said:
My invoice date is November 28, but my VPS was created today.

Do I need to open a ticket about it?

This has been asked twice already within the last page of comments. No, leave it for at least a week and they should clean it up.

TimboJones · December 2020

@raindog308 said:

@default said: But with all that stop/start, I preferred to use Debian with MBR instead of GPT.

Need GPT for >3TB disk.

Something like >2.2TB.

Galeej · December 2020

@balaji_pitchumani said:
Hurray..got 10TB server yes...Disk /dev/vda: 9.77 TiB, 10737418240000 bytes, 20971520000 sectors

Directly uploaded Ubuntu 20.1 ISO through URL and also selected Nextcloud snap and worked like a charm...however /dev/vda3 shows in fdisk -l ..but not in df -h even after i tried resize2fs on /dev/vda3..failed...nextcloud also does not show the 9.8T as available storage...surely missing something..

@hosthatch said:

@plumberg said:
How much actual usable space one gets from the 10tb ?

10 TB is the usable space.

It is not the same as 10 TB on a dedicated server with your own hard drive, where you get ~9 TB usable.

I also used ubuntu ISO and got 200GB by default. to extend, you can run lvextend -l 100%FREE /dev/ubuntu-vg/uubuntu-lv and followed by resize2fs /dev/ubuntu-vg/uubuntu-lv

balaji_pitchumani · December 2020

@Galeej said:

@balaji_pitchumani said:
Hurray..got 10TB server yes...Disk /dev/vda: 9.77 TiB, 10737418240000 bytes, 20971520000 sectors

Directly uploaded Ubuntu 20.1 ISO through URL and also selected Nextcloud snap and worked like a charm...however /dev/vda3 shows in fdisk -l ..but not in df -h even after i tried resize2fs on /dev/vda3..failed...nextcloud also does not show the 9.8T as available storage...surely missing something..

@hosthatch said:

@plumberg said:
How much actual usable space one gets from the 10tb ?

10 TB is the usable space.

It is not the same as 10 TB on a dedicated server with your own hard drive, where you get ~9 TB usable.

I also used ubuntu ISO and got 200GB by default. to extend, you can run lvextend -l 100%FREE /dev/ubuntu-vg/ubuntu-lv and followed by resize2fs /dev/ubuntu-vg/ubuntu-lv

Many many thanks worked

Levi · December 2020

Last day for provisions at standard locations. The clock is ticking.

JamesF · December 2020

We still have 1xnvme outstanding.... hopefully today 👍

Trav · December 2020

@LTniger said:
Last day for provisions at standard locations. The clock is ticking.

Why do you care so much? Do you have something against HostHatch? You think if they are late by a day they are considered a failure? What are you trying to prove?

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