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€2.99/month dedicated - what's going to happen in the industry?

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  • ztecztec Member
    edited July 2013

    It's cheaper than my backup VPS, has double diskspace and I can use it for whatever I want, so this rocks. :)

  • nixcomnixcom Member

    @ztec said:
    It's cheaper than my backup VPS, has double diskspace and I can use it for whatever I want, so this rocks. :)

    Like a vps you need to respect their TOS ;)
    Don't forget the location and latency related to it. Most of the vps offers on the market are hosted on more powerful cpu than this offer. That's a good offer but you have to keep in mind the cpu specifications.

  • ztecztec Member

    @nixcom said:
    Don't forget the location and latency related to it. Most of the vps offers on the market are hosted on more powerful cpu than this offer. That's a good offer but you have to keep in mind the cpu specifications.

    My sites will stay hosted with Iniz. For the exact reasons you just told me :)

  • nixcomnixcom Member

    @ztec said:

    :)

  • @nixcom said:
    Most of the vps offers on the market are hosted on more powerful cpu than this offer.

    Yes, that's true, but we have to share the more power cpu with others (perhaps 20-30 of them?) when renting a vps. What we really get might be less than an dedicated Atom cpu.

    And an Atom cpu should be more than enough for a small website (like lowendbox), smtp server, and vpn, right?

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited July 2013

    @chihcherng said:
    And an Atom cpu should be more than enough for a small website (like lowendbox), smtp server, and vpn, right?

    Yes.

    @chihcherng said:
    but we have to share the more power cpu with others (perhaps 20-30 of them?) when renting a vps. What we really get might be less than an dedicated Atom cpu.

    For host1free, yes, the cpu share is less than an atom, however, almost any other VPS I saw has better cpu, maybe low 128 and below ones to be worse.

    Of course, we are talking about a regular host, not a junk one. If ppl had a very bad OVZ experience, an atom dedi would feel fast, but for most informed ones that choose their hosts right, an atom dedi will be slower, at times even slower than the 4 threads ones because OVZ scales when you need CPU.

    Also, the "feel faster" factor will be much improved on an OVZ because the disk will be much faster, in average, because we have raid there or even SSD, something 3 Eur atoms will not have.

  • nixcomnixcom Member
    edited July 2013

    @chihcherng said:
    And an Atom cpu should be more than enough for a small website (like lowendbox), smtp server, and vpn, right?

    That's enough for sure...

    Regarding the cpu power, normally it's pretty rare that ALL VPS need the full power at the same time... It always depends on your needs. On my side, if I need cpu power, I don't buy atom dedicated ;)

    Another thing is that you've got only 1 hdd with this offer from OVH. All well known VPS companies right now on the market use raid configurations to save customers a** if something wrong happen. Many of them also offering backup solution in case of issues... You don't have that with OVH offer.

    I'm not trying to say that it's good or not, that's only my points regarding the differences offered by VPS companies and OVH kimsufi offers... Keep in mind that you need to buy regarding your own needs and not mine or anyone else ;)

  • xsetxset Member
    edited July 2013

    Apparently OVH DDOS protection is so sensitive that you really can't host anything at OVH anymore, at least not game servers doing UDP.
    Simple PING and Traceroute 2 times was enough to block access from RBX KS server to GRA KS server. There's no management option in managerv3 to allow IPs to go through again.

    I'm completely blocked out for over 8 hours now for accessing one new KS2G server.
    Here's an example..

    All I did was run a ping 1-2 times for less than 1 minute and traceroute 1 time
    and it got the source address blocked.

    I can reach the KS2G outside OVH fine.

    ping ks3323132.kimsufi.com
    PING ks3323132.kimsufi.com (37.187.0.127) 56(84) bytes of data.
    From vac1-1-n7.fr.eu.firewall (178.33.100.152) icmp_seq=1 Time to live exceeded
    From vac1-1-n7.fr.eu.firewall (178.33.100.152) icmp_seq=2 Time to live exceeded
    From vac1-1-n7.fr.eu.firewall (178.33.100.152) icmp_seq=3 Time to live exceeded
    
    
    telnet ks3323132.kimsufi.com 22
    Trying 37.187.0.127...
    telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host
    
    telnet ks3323132.kimsufi.com 80
    Trying 37.187.0.127...
    telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host
    
    traceroute to 37.187.0.127 (37.187.0.127), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
     1  vss-1-6k.fr.eu (94.23.27.253)  21.712 ms * *
     2  rbx-g1-a9.fr.eu (94.23.122.170)  0.748 ms  0.957 ms  0.976 ms
     3  vac1-0-a9.fr.eu.vaccum (178.33.100.149)  13.356 ms  13.712 ms  14.011 ms
     4  vac1-1-n7.fr.eu.firewall (178.33.100.152)  0.434 ms  1.884 ms  2.016 ms
     5  vac1-2-n7.fr.eu (91.121.215.9)  0.488 ms  0.590 ms  0.684 ms
     6  vac1-3-n7.fr.eu (91.121.215.13)  0.838 ms  0.866 ms  1.043 ms
     7  * * *
     8  rbx-s6-6k.fr.eu (91.121.131.93)  2.190 ms 91.121.131.255 (91.121.131.255)  49.197 ms  49.119 ms
     9  vac1-0-a9.fr.eu.vaccum (178.33.100.151)  15.953 ms vac1-0-a9.fr.eu.vaccum (178.33.100.149)  15.733 ms  15.933 ms
    10  vac1-1-n7.fr.eu.firewall (178.33.100.152)  0.594 ms  0.508 ms  0.729 ms
    11  vac1-2-n7.fr.eu (91.121.215.9)  0.725 ms  0.503 ms  0.561 ms
    12  vac1-3-n7.fr.eu (91.121.215.13)  0.921 ms  0.904 ms  0.752 ms
    13  * * *
    14  rbx-s6-6k.fr.eu (91.121.131.93)  1.101 ms 91.121.131.255 (91.121.131.255)  36.373 ms  35.518 ms
    15  vac1-0-a9.fr.eu.vaccum (178.33.100.149)  12.919 ms  13.278 ms  13.336 ms
    16  vac1-1-n7.fr.eu.firewall (178.33.100.152)  0.606 ms  0.608 ms  0.848 ms
    17  vac1-2-n7.fr.eu (91.121.215.9)  0.600 ms  0.592 ms  0.599 ms
    18  vac1-3-n7.fr.eu (91.121.215.13)  0.884 ms  0.798 ms  0.970 ms
    19  * * *
    20  rbx-s6-6k.fr.eu (91.121.131.93)  1.069 ms 91.121.131.255 (91.121.131.255)  17.506 ms  1.035 ms
    21  vac1-0-a9.fr.eu.vaccum (178.33.100.151)  12.360 ms vac1-0-a9.fr.eu.vaccum (178.33.100.149)  12.688 ms  13.079 ms
    22  vac1-1-n7.fr.eu.firewall (178.33.100.152)  0.920 ms  0.868 ms  0.915 ms
    23  vac1-2-n7.fr.eu (91.121.215.9)  0.828 ms  0.776 ms  1.030 ms
    24  vac1-3-n7.fr.eu (91.121.215.13)  1.099 ms  0.828 ms  0.894 ms
    25  10.21.50.42 (10.21.50.42)  0.844 ms * 10.21.50.43 (10.21.50.43)  0.830 ms
    26  rbx-s6-6k.fr.eu (91.121.131.93)  1.075 ms  1.140 ms 91.121.131.255 (91.121.131.255)  1.224 ms
    27  vac1-0-a9.fr.eu.vaccum (178.33.100.151)  10.824 ms  11.123 ms  12.009 ms
    28  vac1-1-n7.fr.eu.firewall (178.33.100.152)  0.988 ms  0.864 ms  1.048 ms
    29  vac1-2-n7.fr.eu (91.121.215.9)  0.818 ms  0.811 ms  0.792 ms
    30  vac1-3-n7.fr.eu (91.121.215.13)  0.851 ms  0.813 ms  0.912 ms
    
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited July 2013

    @xset happend to me also, its realy pissing me off :D

  • xsetxset Member
    edited July 2013

    @infinity580 make a ticket

  • doing it to eliminate competition is illegal.

    No it isn't, you CAN sell at loss in the EU.

  • @xset said:
    infinity580 make a ticket, i made a ticket about this. seriously considering withdrawing 2xKS16g orders, 2xmini-sps now, if they can't provide an explanation or fix for this!

    The fix they'll probably suggest is to add a professional use subscription and a virtual rack.

  • PatsPats Member

    @Maounique said:
    Ah, I see, however, that didnt help in jarland's case, he even attacked me harder because of that, saying i try to hide behind it :P

    Ah.. and i don't understand what happens to u both guys... i had been off & on lately so didn't see when u & @Jarland locked ur horns.. :P
    Come'on don't get too engaged.. and even if u guys lock horns.. take a deep breath.. relax.. step-back and ask ur gf's to polish the horns. They shud be good at it making u continue in good mood :)

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited July 2013

    hosting anything serious & distributed at OVH is really impossible

    if they can't provide an explanation or fix for this!

    Stop blowing this out of the god damn proportion already, turn your whine down from eleven.
    1) of course they are still tuning it, it's still in beta.
    2) does your "hosting of serious and distributed" neccessarily include high UDP packet rate? Oh no it doesn't, and you would just use TCP connections? So where is the problem then even right now?

  • PatsPats Member

    so the bottomline is OVH Orders from clients in Asialand will be Terminated??

  • xsetxset Member
    edited July 2013

    @domainbop virtual rack is not available for mini-sps nor kimsufi... starting only at EG series.. 2 x price..too much for what I need.

  • xsetxset Member
    edited July 2013

    @rm_ Perphaps you didn't read everything. Simple 2 pings, 1 traceroute was enough to block access, not using any UDP. It might have been triggered during UDP from other hosts, but from my host no UDP.
    And having Beta product in production usage -- simply makes any production use unusable

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    They are in tests with the firewall and what best guinea pigs if not these ultracheap atoms ?

    It was to be expected, however, almost free DDoS protection would be such a great step forward if they do it right, that it is worth some pain in the process.

  • xsetxset Member

    @maounique Perhaps yes, but I've read it affects everyone by default, but I asked them to clarify it. Anyhow, until they're ready for production, I'll wait & see.

  • @xset Those are not production servers though

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited July 2013

    That is why it so cheap, we are test subjects.... I hate this, i thought i could take over the world with my little atom haha :D

  • @chauffer said:
    xset Those are not production servers though

    Yes they are?

  • @Bogdacutuu @Jack I wouldn't consider production server a dirt-cheap server without any kind of redundancy whatsoever

  • xsetxset Member

    @chauffer we'll I asked about what if affects and where, we'll learn more in a few days.

  • xsetxset Member

    I dont call KS servers production servers either. But mini-sps yes, and if they're affected, then that's bad.

  • well honestly, they have to test it to set it properly, as @Maounique said, it might be worth the effort... as long as it doesn't get too annoying.

  • xsetxset Member

    @jack No, SBG had 24 h delivery time, RBX had 72 hours, I chose SBG because of the delivery time.

  • @xset then perhaps it might be affected too, not sure but the network should be the same

  • xsetxset Member

    @zen There's no way to opt-out of their ddos protection. It's not only a filtering solution, but a blocking solution. It seems to filter only those source addresses that were involved during the false flood period... traceroute shows no filtering vacuums outside OVH unless you're filtered = blocked. Same for internal traffic.

  • xsetxset Member

    @chauffer I also wonder if it affects servers in same DC...

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