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ChicagoVPS database leaked? ChicagoVPS customers - change your root passwords immediately!

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  • @Francisco said: Don't give people ideas please.

    If the root passwords really are floating and people didn't swap them, there's going to be a lot of shit hitting the fan and soon.

    Francisco

    Well CVPS forced a reset and expired all their passwords on them today didn't they?

  • SpiritSpirit Barred
    edited February 2013

    @Francisco said: If the root passwords really are floating and people didn't swap them, there's going to be a lot of shit hitting the fan and soon.

    @Corey said: Well CVPS forced a reset and expired all their passwords on them today didn't they?

    Root passwords or SolusVM passwords?

  • Hey @CVPS_Kevin, did you wipe all root passwords and consoles or only solus login passwords?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Corey said: Well CVPS forced a reset and expired all their passwords on them today didn't they?

    Only for client side, I don't think solus has a mass 'expire all root/console passwords' option. That'd really really suck for the clients to be locked out like that.

    It's possible @soluslabs has quickly written them a script to mass randomize passwords for them? Can't see it being more than 5 - 10 lines of code.

    Francisco

  • This most certainly has nothing to do with us (noticed URPad mentioned a couple times). I feel for them as I can't imagine how stressful this has to be. There have been URPad and CVPS quarrels in the past, but nothing that would justify anything like this.

    I've never had anything against CVPS as a company personally. I never had issues with Kevin, I think he's a talented guy and he was with URPad for a very long time before I came onboard. I've never had any direct contact with CVPS-Chris other than him calling me out in IRC and making silly threats towards me personally unprovoked. He's made it clear he's not fond of me, that's okay, I, like many many others are not particularly fond of him either, but still that's nothing that would justify anything like this.

  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Patron Provider, Veteran

    @Corey

    The forced reset was for solusvm accounts as far as I am aware. Not sure how they can force reset all the passwords of different VMs.

  • @Alex_LiquidHost said: The forced reset was for solusvm accounts as far as I am aware. Not sure how they can force reset all the passwords of different VMs.

    vzctl exec passwd

  • @CVPS_Kevin

    Can you explain the 46 2GB and 70 1GB you put on every 32GB box?

  • AlexBarakovAlexBarakov Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited February 2013

    @Corey said: vzctl exec passwd

    Remember, they can't change all of the passwords to the same thing.

    They somehow need to update the user with a new root password for the VPS and somehow forward it to that specific user. Maybe it can be done through solusvm API, though.

  • @BenND said: @CVPS_Kevin

    Can you explain the 46 2GB and 70 1GB you put on every 32GB box?

    I can explain it for him..... not everyone uses all their ram.

  • @Alex_LiquidHost said: Remember, they can't change all of the passwords to the same thing.

    They somehow need to update the user with a new root password for the VPS.

    vzctl exec passwd ($rand)
    mail($to, $subject, $messagewithnewrandpass)

  • @BenND said: Can you explain the 46 2GB and 70 1GB you put on every 32GB box?

    Chris will probably say:
    "We have oversell under control and we're fine as is, we provide good service and we're WINNING"

  • @corey

    Obviously, but selling 162GB of ram on a 32GB node is sure to be trouble. Let alone 116 VM's per node.

  • erhwegesrgsrerhwegesrgsr Member
    edited February 2013

    @BenND said: Can you explain the 46 2GB and 70 1GB you put on every 32GB box?

    Jesus, @BradND said 46x 1GB to me in PM :o

    3 times oversell on 2GB plans, and a little more than 2 times with 1GB plans

  • @BenND said: @corey

    Obviously, but selling 162GB of ram on a 32GB node is sure to be trouble. Let alone 116 VM's per node.

    How is that trouble if everyone has been comfortably sitting on that box for X months? Probably 50% of the people that buy those just get them cause they are too good to pass up and then never use it for hardly anything.

  • erhwegesrgsrerhwegesrgsr Member
    edited February 2013

    @mpkossen here it is, freebie because @BenND probably couldn't keep it to himself, haha, no offense

  • Ben1002Ben1002 Member
    edited February 2013

    @BronzeByte

    I could, Just don't see no harm in sharing.

  • @BenND said: @BronzeByte

    I don't know what Bradley said to you but its

    46 2GB AND 70 1GB per 1 node.

    Also if you think about it that is a very small number compared to how much they charge... only $230 on the 2gb nodes and $175 on 1gb noes.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Corey said: Also if you think about it that is a very small number compared to how much they charge... only $230 on the 2gb nodes and $175 on 1gb noes.

    Gotta figure in how many people pass up the promos and go for full price. Definitely happens.

  • @jarland said: Gotta figure in how many people pass up the promos and go for full price. Definitely happens.

    Yea but say that is 50% and then how much more money do they make? Not that much more money.

  • @BenND said: Just don't see no harm in sharing.

    No harm, but keeping it a challenge to find out ;-)

  • I don't think you should judge CVPS by how many VMs they put on a node, but by how well their nodes actually perform. If they oversell their RAM by 400% but your VPS still runs fine, why care?

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @gsrdgrdghd said: I don't think you should judge CVPS by how many VMs they put on a node, but by how well their nodes actually perform. If they oversell their RAM by 400% but your VPS still runs fine, why care?

    Pretty much. This is a balance that no one can instruct you on. You just have to go about it best you can and have a backup plan for any signs of miscalculation.

  • ZettaZetta Member
    edited February 2013

    @gsrdgrdghd said: If they oversell their RAM by 400% but your VPS still runs fine, why care?

    BECAUSE I'M PAYING A LOT OF MONEY FOR THIS AND I DESERVE ALL THE RAM AVAILABLE TO ME AND 24/7 SUPPORT WITH INSTANT RESPONSE

  • @Corey said: Yea but say that is 50% and then how much more money do they make? Not that much more money.

    The key factors is that @CVPS_Chris works at Colocrossing (probably as simple hardware engineer like remote hands seeing his lack of technical knowledge)
    He has an income (so doesn't need to make a lot of profit), probably gets discount and because of having the income.

    Having the servers from colocrossing it was easy for him to start cornering the market with the 2GB offers as he knew people didn't use much RAM anyway. I respect that though, he has been an inspiration and (sadly) changed the LEB market

  • @Zetta said: INSTANT RESPONSE

    One of those super fast typing Asian people that can read your mind before you submit your ticket? Or they will write a response to your ticket while you're writing and haven't clicked submit yet ;-)

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @BronzeByte said: probably gets discount

    Bingo. Chris & Jon go way back. I think it would be foolish to think that Chris pays anything close to what anyone else here does.

  • @jarland said: I think it would be foolish to think that Chris pays anything close to what anyone else here does.

    Chris is practically Colocrossing's VPS company, if people don't want Chris' shit, then why would they want somebody's else? With Chris they have more control

  • @Jack said: If that's the case Jon gives me quotes of $90-95/mo for Colo of which Chris can give me quotes of $45? ? >_>!

    Hehe, @Jacob gives me 90 pounds for colo in UK while his DC gives me 140 pounds, not unusual I guess? ;-) (and @Jacob doesn't even work there)

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    @Jack said: So Yes he is getting cheaper space but couldn't that also be due to the fact he is a large client now?

    I wouldn't discount the personal relationship. I'm not going into the "they're one company" rant or anything, but I mean Jon gave him chicagovps.net, I'm sure there's a friend deal going on. I'm not knocking it. That's fair business.

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