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Any Western Australia VPSs for $20 AUD or less?

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  • deployvmdeployvm Member
    edited January 2017

    trjhx said: Ok, pinged ping.pe and got an average of 21ms....great,

    I'm pretty sure you sent ICMP packets (ping) to CloudFlare's CDN in Perth. This is not really any use for your game server project (GRE tunnels needed instead for custom UDP or TCP app ports).

     3  198.32.212.107 (198.32.212.107)  17.210 ms  17.951 ms  16.874 ms
     4  104.27.83.110 (104.27.83.110)  19.216 ms  17.012 ms  17.530 ms
    

    Don't get a server in Singapore, because of stability issues on the Perth-Singapore cable SWM3). Minimum would be 60ms. Also Telstra/TPG may not necessary use that particular route for all SG hosts (depends on peering arrangements). It was iiNet/Internode that used mainly used that cable. The only other closest region to Perth is Adelaide and there may be options there (43ms from ADSL connection).

  • @deployvm said:

    trjhx said: Ok, pinged ping.pe and got an average of 21ms....great,

    I'm pretty sure you sent ICMP packets (ping) to CloudFlare's CDN in Perth. This is not really any use for your game server project (GRE tunnels needed instead for custom UDP or TCP app ports).

    >  3  198.32.212.107 (198.32.212.107)  17.210 ms  17.951 ms  16.874 ms
    >  4  104.27.83.110 (104.27.83.110)  19.216 ms  17.012 ms  17.530 ms
    > 

    Don't get a server in Singapore, because of stability issues on the Perth-Singapore cable SWM3). Minimum would be 60ms. Also Telstra/TPG may not necessary use that particular route for all SG hosts (depends on peering arrangements). It was iiNet/Internode that used mainly used that cable. The only other closest region to Perth is Adelaide and there may be options there (43ms from ADSL connection).

    Isn't sending packets still considered a latency test, no? I did one at Adelaide and got 75 ms on average for ADLS2+ connection.....

    Hahaha, of course not; why would I deliberately handy-cap myself on my own server?! hahaha Sure if I was pro and 400 pings is like nothing to me and can still own even with that high of a kind of ping, but no...I'm unfortunately not a pro player....hahahaha

  • trjhx said: sn't sending packets still considered a latency test, no? I did one at Adelaide and got 75 ms on average for ADLS2+ connection.....

    Are you in WA or you're from other states?
    I've tested and definitely is around 43ms.

  • trjhxtrjhx Member
    edited January 2017

    @deployvm said:

    trjhx said: sn't sending packets still considered a latency test, no? I did one at Adelaide and got 75 ms on average for ADLS2+ connection.....

    Are you in WA or you're from other states?
    I've tested and definitely is around 43ms.

    I'm definitely in WA, do you want me to confirm/verify it somehow with you? I posted a screenshot of cmd prompt to you via P.M....

    Perhaps a meetup somewhere at my house maybe if you also live in WA too? That will definitely verify and confirm where I exactly reside so you have ZERO reasons I could be somewhere else....

  • trjhx said: I'm definitely in WA, do you want me to confirm/verify it somehow with you? I posted a screenshot of cmd prompt to you via P.M....

    Perhaps a meetup somewhere at my house maybe if you also live in WA too?

    No, it's okay. The issue is with TPG, which is routing most networks to Adelaide through Sydney from Perth (what you see is Perth --> Sydney --> Melbourne --> Adelaide). It's possibly passing through SA twice (unlikely NT).

  • OnApp_TerryOnApp_Terry Member
    edited January 2017

    Hmmm, alright.....definitely be under $20 AUD a month....... $13.70 USD ~ $18.27 AUD....not sure if 512MB will be okay for my game servers.......the rest seems to be okay.....except operating system, I am more familiar with windows and I am not sure how to run my game servers under linux.....and even if there were instructions for them, the last time I touched a linux distro(which was a few years ago) - it was a pain in the ass to just install and operate an antivirus program so I could scan my HDDs!

    Shoot me an email if you decide to go with us - I'll apply enough credits so you can try out a Linux server to see if it's something you're comfortable with.

  • @deployvm said:

    trjhx said: I'm definitely in WA, do you want me to confirm/verify it somehow with you? I posted a screenshot of cmd prompt to you via P.M....

    Perhaps a meetup somewhere at my house maybe if you also live in WA too?

    No, it's okay. The issue is with TPG, which is routing most networks to Adelaide through Sydney from Perth (what you see is Perth --> Sydney --> Melbourne --> Adelaide). It's possibly passing through SA twice (unlikely NT).

    Soooooooooooooooo.............................................................................................?

  • deployvmdeployvm Member
    edited January 2017

    trjhx said: Soooooooooooooooo.............................................................................................?

    Try OnApp's cloud.net

    They have a zone in Perth as I previously suggested and is the cheapest I found.

    @OnApp_Terry

    https://intergrid.com.au/virtual.php is another option.

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  • In the US someone from New York can get around 80ms to a server in Los Angeles, I really do feel bad in that regard. Minecraft servers are really easy to run in linux, you just install the latest Java, get the minecraft server .jar file, open up tmux and do java -jar minecraft_server.jar and there you go, If you ever host one I'll join it lol, and I don't know about the rest of the games though, those may only work in Windows, and I hope you can find a good host

  • GamerTech24GamerTech24 Member
    edited January 2017

    trjhx said: No, it's okay. The issue is with TPG, which is routing most networks to Adelaide through Sydney from Perth (what you see is Perth --> Sydney --> Melbourne --> Adelaide). It's possibly passing through SA twice (unlikely NT).

    oh my god they really should fix that routing, I'd be inclined to tell their NOC about that

  • @ethancedrik said:
    In the US someone from New York can get around 80ms to a server in Los Angeles, I really do feel bad in that regard. Minecraft servers are really easy to run in linux, you just install the latest Java, get the minecraft server .jar file, open up tmux and do java -jar minecraft_server.jar and there you go, If you ever host one I'll join it lol, and I don't know about the rest of the games though, those may only work in Windows, and I hope you can find a good host

    Hah, I'll worry about that when I get to hosting a MineCraft server after knowing if I have enough resources available for it; and if it doesn't turn out to work - I can always get back to you and ask you for help(if there are no publicly displayed instructions on how to start a dedicated minecraft server on either windows or linux or which ever os I decide on! :P)! hahaha

    For now, once I finally pick either a VPS, dedicated server or even coloation service (I just discovered this new method), I will start off with me hosting some dedicated KF1 servers. Once I have that figured out and operating correctly as I would like it to be, then I can start thinking about hosting other games.....heh...

    @ethancedrik said:

    trjhx said: No, it's okay. The issue is with TPG, which is routing most networks to Adelaide through Sydney from Perth (what you see is Perth --> Sydney --> Melbourne --> Adelaide). It's possibly passing through SA twice (unlikely NT).

    oh my god they really should fix that routing, I'd be inclined to tell their NOC about that

    What's a NOC?

    By the way, does anyone know of any decent but not so expensive colocation providers(preferably less than $100 if at all possible?)? Or am I in the wrong forum/site to be talking about this kind of stuff because it's probably not really low end...especially the price tags that I've seen on some providers........heh

  • This might spread some light on the whole who has colo, here's a few that have had deals in the past.

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/search/node/Colocation

    No idea if any of them are actually good...

  • GamerTech24GamerTech24 Member
    edited January 2017

    @trjhx NOC stands for Network Operations Center, it basically means the group of people managing the backend parts of a network such as IP addresses, routing, etc. For example TPGs is [email protected]

    As far as VPS providers go there's also http://vpsblocks.com.au/

  • GamerTech24GamerTech24 Member
    edited January 2017

    and no dedicated servers and collocation have came up on here before so I'm sure they're some people willing to put some insight on that

  • @ATHK said:
    This might spread some light on the whole who has colo, here's a few that have had deals in the past.

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/search/node/Colocation

    No idea if any of them are actually good...

    Alright cool thanks!

    @ethancedrik said:
    @trjhx NOC stands for Network Operations Center, it basically means the group of people managing the backend parts of a network such as IP addresses, routing, etc. For example TPGs is [email protected]

    As far as VPS providers go there's also http://vpsblocks.com.au/

    So I should contact them demand they fix up this bad routing?

    As for the VPS provider you linked: https://s27.postimg.org/k3fbk15c3/tracert.png

    @ethancedrik said:
    and no dedicated servers and collocation have came up on here before so I'm sure they're some people willing to put some insight on that

    Oh really? Huh.....

  • WSSWSS Member

    I've ordered a LES NAT from @Oliver a couple days ago. Will give you any relevant advice when I get it.

  • @WSS said:
    I've ordered a LES NAT from @Oliver a couple days ago. Will give you any relevant advice when I get it.

    Great little boxes! Running a TeamSpeak with a Java bot with around 5-10 people mostly AU residents and a few from NZ and it doesn't even break a sweat.

    Thanked by 1WSS
  • WSSWSS Member

    I think I've been put on a "fuck you" list because I named it "alice springs"

    Thanked by 2ATHK Gravely
  • @trjhx said:
    Looking for a WA Perth located VPS for hosting game servers mainly, though I could use it for something else as well if I have resources to spare on it....

    Sydney, but how is your ping to 65.127.194.149?

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    @WSS haha sorry; just saw that now.. Apologies just been very busy so processing LET orders was not a high priority... You're up and running now. :-)

  • WSSWSS Member

    @Oliver said:
    @WSS haha sorry; just saw that now.. Apologies just been very busy so processing LET orders was not a high priority... You're up and running now. :-)

    No issues, mate. I was just funning. Besides, it was the weekend! Cheers!

  • @WSS said:
    I think I've been put on a "fuck you" list because I named it "alice springs"

    lol

    @DH22 said:

    @trjhx said:
    Looking for a WA Perth located VPS for hosting game servers mainly, though I could use it for something else as well if I have resources to spare on it....

    Sydney, but how is your ping to 65.127.194.149?

    Min = 197ms, Max = 198ms Avg = 197ms

    @Oliver said:
    @WSS haha sorry; just saw that now.. Apologies just been very busy so processing LET orders was not a high priority... You're up and running now. :-)

    Oh yeah, would be nice if you replied back to my message......but I suppose I'm in no hurry get all this setup anyways so I can patiently wait for your reply....

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    trjhx said: Oh yeah, would be nice if you replied back to my message......but I suppose I'm in no hurry get all this setup anyways so I can patiently wait for your reply....

    Which message sorry? I think I have missed something if you are waiting on something. Can you bump/resend/remind me of it because I am not sure where that message is.

    Cheers

  • WSSWSS Member

    @Oliver this is a pretty nice little LES. Cheers!

    Thanked by 1ATHK
  • @trjhx

    Just seen this - https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/289078 - they are available in Perth.

  • trjhxtrjhx Member
    edited January 2017

    @Oliver said:

    trjhx said: Oh yeah, would be nice if you replied back to my message......but I suppose I'm in no hurry get all this setup anyways so I can patiently wait for your reply....

    Which message sorry? I think I have missed something if you are waiting on something. Can you bump/resend/remind me of it because I am not sure where that message is.

    Cheers

    ==============================================

    I've heard you mention of DDOS and DOS, does that actually happen often when hosting? Like say if I host a game server from home, some dick could DoS me just for hosting it from home?! Which means I would be fek'd coz it would mean I can't do anything when I'm DoS'd....actually how do I find out if I am being DoS'd? Do you have like a program that detects this or....?

    >

    Which means I would actually be better off if I host my game servers through a GSP, VPS or a dedicated server because they would get the grunt of the DDoS/DoS and I would be safe?

    >

    Well if it's anything like operating a normal windows desktop/laptop/tower computer, it can't be that hard can it? Unless it requires stupid amounts of commandline inputs like with linux..............................? I've setup and ran a home KF1 server before from home and it works, if it's like this - I should be able to do it...if it requires additional complex steps just to get it running, coz you know it's a server environment and I would be using a server version of windows?...heh probably not....

    >

    As long as there are readable and understandable instructions, I should be good.

    Those paragraphs I sent to you via PM.....you never came back to answer them.......or comment on it... Maybe the answer was so simple that your presumed I already know the answer to it, but they're not rhetorical questions(they are serious questions as I've never been in this field of work before! Or at least have as much experience as you)! :P

    You either answer via PM'ing back or you just read the rest of the message from your inbox and answer here.....nothing to hide anyways...heh :P Everyone here knows I'm a newb at this! :P

    Bleh, this quoting system - I'm not used to it..... Yep there we go - seperated my reply from your quote..........................................

    @WSS said:
    @Oliver this is a pretty nice little LES. Cheers!

    How is it? What are you using it for anyways?

    @ATHK said:
    @trjhx

    Just seen this - https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/289078 - they are available in Perth.

    Oh cool thanks - I'll go check it out! ^_^

  • trewqtrewq Administrator, Patron Provider

    @trjhx You might want to invest more time in writing messages to people. That message is incredibly hard to read and comprehend. I don't think you even had a actual question in there? It just looks like you're thinking out loud.

  • OliverOliver Member, Host Rep

    @trjhx yes, what @trewq said - sorry I didn't really interpret them as serious questions. Not sure what to say really; yes you can be DDOS'd on any connection... No I don't have a program to 'detect it'. You usually discover it when you get nullrouted.

    Unless you are willing to invest lots of time into learning yourself I would honestly say that unmanaged services are not suitable for you anyway since the support you probably require simply isn't there. Not trying to discourage you from learning just saying how it is; since I'd rather be upfront about that now rather than later have you or a customer complain because I can't explain how to run Linux on the CLI when they've only ever used Windows.

  • trjhxtrjhx Member
    edited January 2017

    @trewq said:
    @trjhx You might want to invest more time in writing messages to people. That message is incredibly hard to read and comprehend. I don't think you even had a actual question in there? It just looks like you're thinking out loud.

    Ah, sorry about that..... well the intention wasn't me thinking out loud..... :P

    @Oliver said:
    @trjhx yes, what @trewq said - sorry I didn't really interpret them as serious questions. Not sure what to say really; yes you can be DDOS'd on any connection... No I don't have a program to 'detect it'. You usually discover it when you get nullrouted.

    Unless you are willing to invest lots of time into learning yourself I would honestly say that unmanaged services are not suitable for you anyway since the support you probably require simply isn't there. Not trying to discourage you from learning just saying how it is; since I'd rather be upfront about that now rather than later have you or a customer complain because I can't explain how to run Linux on the CLI when they've only ever used Windows.

    Ah so in this case, I should really just stick with windows than, rather than trying linux again with flipping tables sessions whilst I work with their CLI .....heh..

  • WSSWSS Member

    @trjhx said:

    How is it? What are you using it for anyways?

    It's nowhere near as slow as I'd expect. I actually got it to use as a VPN should the need arise to join the Darren Hanlon fanclub, or order a replacement set of Late Show DVDs.

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