Cloud Computing Business

Nekki · August 2016

gurugrv said: Its pretty simple.

But not simple enough for you to explain?

gurugrv · August 2016

@Nekki said:
But not simple enough for you to explain?

Not really.

Nekki · August 2016

gurugrv said: Not really.

So it's not really simple then.

GCat · August 2016

If you want the platform written, we can write it for you. We charge $225/hr, minimum $5000 deposit to start work. If you want advice, well @Nekki handles that

gurugrv · August 2016

@GCat said:

Sorry, such expertise and intelligence is out of scope for my client. I'd rather go back and eat my popcorn.

Nekki · August 2016

@gurugrv said:

@GCat said:

Sorry, such expertise and intelligence is out of scope for my client. I'd rather go back and eat my popcorn.

Beate actually doing any work, amirite?

raindog308 · August 2016

jarland said: they're just made up constructs that can be adjusted without consequence.

See, I knew that unlimited hosting plans weren't a scam. Finally the truth is revealed by an insider.

doghouch · August 2016

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

vimalware · August 2016

You'll pretty much have to dig into Openstack, go crazy understanding it, then give up and finally hire a team with hands-on Openstack implementation experience.

Disclaimer : This is what I keep hearing. I have no experience with Openstack.

This might not be your experience if you dive in today.

OpticalSwoosh · August 2016

@doghouch said:

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

I got 1Mb up and 20Mb down xD

Got 6 servers running and well yeah offsite backups are fun

theroyalstudent · August 2016

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@doghouch said:

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

I got 1Mb up and 20Mb down xD

Got 6 servers running and well yeah offsite backups are fun

To save power, I suppose we could generate some nice power from water and put servers in the...

Toilet.

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OpticalSwoosh · August 2016

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@doghouch said:

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

I got 1Mb up and 20Mb down xD

Got 6 servers running and well yeah offsite backups are fun

To save power, I suppose we could generate some nice power from water and put servers in the...

Toilet.

Premium Internet Access (via 4G):

You aren't far off one of the things I've done. I own an allotment (like a garden else where for farming related stuff)

One issue I have is watering it sometimes I can't make it down so I have a raspberry pi hooked up to a car battery which has a solar charger and a water turbine attached to the mains water pipe. On days over 20 degrees (pulled from weather forecast) it switches water on for 5 minutes in the morning and 5 minutes at lunch and night. I can override it as its connected to 3G network and I can force it to water or not for the day. Quite a nifty idea and only took 3 days to put it in

theroyalstudent · August 2016

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@doghouch said:

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

I got 1Mb up and 20Mb down xD

Got 6 servers running and well yeah offsite backups are fun

To save power, I suppose we could generate some nice power from water and put servers in the...

Toilet.

Premium Internet Access (via 4G):

You aren't far off one of the things I've done. I own an allotment (like a garden else where for farming related stuff)

One issue I have is watering it sometimes I can't make it down so I have a raspberry pi hooked up to a car battery which has a solar charger and a water turbine attached to the mains water pipe. On days over 20 degrees (pulled from weather forecast) it switches water on for 5 minutes in the morning and 5 minutes at lunch and night. I can override it as its connected to 3G network and I can force it to water or not for the day. Quite a nifty idea and only took 3 days to put it in

Ah, cool. Unfortunately RPis are still too expensive here. Looking to self-hosting some servers at home to take advantage of my home connection and cut down on my server bills, though.

Nekki · August 2016

OpticalSwoosh said: One issue I have is watering it sometimes I can't make it down so I have a raspberry pi hooked up to a car battery which has a solar charger and a water turbine attached to the mains water pipe. On days over 20 degrees (pulled from weather forecast) it switches water on for 5 minutes in the morning and 5 minutes at lunch and night. I can override it as its connected to 3G network and I can force it to water or not for the day. Quite a nifty idea and only took 3 days to put it in

We need more of this sort of ingenuity.

OpticalSwoosh · August 2016

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@doghouch said:

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

I got 1Mb up and 20Mb down xD

Got 6 servers running and well yeah offsite backups are fun

To save power, I suppose we could generate some nice power from water and put servers in the...

Toilet.

Premium Internet Access (via 4G):

You aren't far off one of the things I've done. I own an allotment (like a garden else where for farming related stuff)

One issue I have is watering it sometimes I can't make it down so I have a raspberry pi hooked up to a car battery which has a solar charger and a water turbine attached to the mains water pipe. On days over 20 degrees (pulled from weather forecast) it switches water on for 5 minutes in the morning and 5 minutes at lunch and night. I can override it as its connected to 3G network and I can force it to water or not for the day. Quite a nifty idea and only took 3 days to put it in

Ah, cool. Unfortunately RPis are still

too expensive here. Looking to self-hosting some servers at home to take advantage of my home connection and cut down on my server bills, though.

Raspberry Pi Zero £4? If you need one shoot me a PM and if you pay for postage I'll send you an original model B I have laying about.

@Nekki it's called 3am, with a glass of milk

Nekki · August 2016

OpticalSwoosh said: @Nekki it's called 3am, with a glass of milk

The only time I see 3am is when the blackberry goes off because we're under DDoS or some helmet on the other side of the world just did something silly and exploded a website. No time for thinking of fun projects to do with a Raspberry Pi, or indeed drinking milk.

theroyalstudent · August 2016

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@doghouch said:

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

I got 1Mb up and 20Mb down xD

Got 6 servers running and well yeah offsite backups are fun

To save power, I suppose we could generate some nice power from water and put servers in the...

Toilet.

Premium Internet Access (via 4G):

You aren't far off one of the things I've done. I own an allotment (like a garden else where for farming related stuff)

One issue I have is watering it sometimes I can't make it down so I have a raspberry pi hooked up to a car battery which has a solar charger and a water turbine attached to the mains water pipe. On days over 20 degrees (pulled from weather forecast) it switches water on for 5 minutes in the morning and 5 minutes at lunch and night. I can override it as its connected to 3G network and I can force it to water or not for the day. Quite a nifty idea and only took 3 days to put it in

Ah, cool. Unfortunately RPis are still

too expensive here. Looking to self-hosting some servers at home to take advantage of my home connection and cut down on my server bills, though.

Raspberry Pi Zero £4? If you need one shoot me a PM and if you pay for postage I'll send you an original model B I have laying about.

Pi Zero seems a bit too weak for what I want to run at home - I'll see about the model B though! Thanks for the offer.

OpticalSwoosh · August 2016

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@doghouch said:

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

I got 1Mb up and 20Mb down xD

Got 6 servers running and well yeah offsite backups are fun

To save power, I suppose we could generate some nice power from water and put servers in the...

Toilet.

Premium Internet Access (via 4G):

You aren't far off one of the things I've done. I own an allotment (like a garden else where for farming related stuff)

One issue I have is watering it sometimes I can't make it down so I have a raspberry pi hooked up to a car battery which has a solar charger and a water turbine attached to the mains water pipe. On days over 20 degrees (pulled from weather forecast) it switches water on for 5 minutes in the morning and 5 minutes at lunch and night. I can override it as its connected to 3G network and I can force it to water or not for the day. Quite a nifty idea and only took 3 days to put it in

Ah, cool. Unfortunately RPis are still

too expensive here. Looking to self-hosting some servers at home to take advantage of my home connection and cut down on my server bills, though.

Raspberry Pi Zero £4? If you need one shoot me a PM and if you pay for postage I'll send you an original model B I have laying about.

Pi Zero seems a bit too weak for what I want to run at home - I'll see about the model B though! Thanks for the offer.

Anytime what you looking to run at home? Sometimes there is something better than a Pi. For home servers I use old Thin clients that have had a SATA port soldered on or a PCI SATA port hanging out the side

theroyalstudent · August 2016

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@doghouch said:

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

I got 1Mb up and 20Mb down xD

Got 6 servers running and well yeah offsite backups are fun

To save power, I suppose we could generate some nice power from water and put servers in the...

Toilet.

Premium Internet Access (via 4G):

You aren't far off one of the things I've done. I own an allotment (like a garden else where for farming related stuff)

One issue I have is watering it sometimes I can't make it down so I have a raspberry pi hooked up to a car battery which has a solar charger and a water turbine attached to the mains water pipe. On days over 20 degrees (pulled from weather forecast) it switches water on for 5 minutes in the morning and 5 minutes at lunch and night. I can override it as its connected to 3G network and I can force it to water or not for the day. Quite a nifty idea and only took 3 days to put it in

Ah, cool. Unfortunately RPis are still

too expensive here. Looking to self-hosting some servers at home to take advantage of my home connection and cut down on my server bills, though.

Raspberry Pi Zero £4? If you need one shoot me a PM and if you pay for postage I'll send you an original model B I have laying about.

Pi Zero seems a bit too weak for what I want to run at home - I'll see about the model B though! Thanks for the offer.

Anytime what you looking to run at home? Sometimes there is something better than a Pi. For home servers I use old Thin clients that have had a SATA port soldered on or a PCI SATA port hanging out the side

Intending to run:

OVPN (my router doesn't have the capability)
TCP/UDP load balancer (router GUI is shit and takes forever to load)
Offsite backups (into a thumbdrive or HDD)
Time Machine backups (I know there's a guide to do it)
Tinc
LookingGlass (within home network, for doing accurate traceroutes and MTRs)
Perhaps a Syncthing relay, since bandwidth is unlimited

PrincessOfCats · August 2016

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@doghouch said:

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

I got 1Mb up and 20Mb down xD

Got 6 servers running and well yeah offsite backups are fun

To save power, I suppose we could generate some nice power from water and put servers in the...

Toilet.

Premium Internet Access (via 4G):

You aren't far off one of the things I've done. I own an allotment (like a garden else where for farming related stuff)

One issue I have is watering it sometimes I can't make it down so I have a raspberry pi hooked up to a car battery which has a solar charger and a water turbine attached to the mains water pipe. On days over 20 degrees (pulled from weather forecast) it switches water on for 5 minutes in the morning and 5 minutes at lunch and night. I can override it as its connected to 3G network and I can force it to water or not for the day. Quite a nifty idea and only took 3 days to put it in

Ah, cool. Unfortunately RPis are still

too expensive here. Looking to self-hosting some servers at home to take advantage of my home connection and cut down on my server bills, though.

Raspberry Pi Zero £4? If you need one shoot me a PM and if you pay for postage I'll send you an original model B I have laying about.

Pi Zero seems a bit too weak for what I want to run at home - I'll see about the model B though! Thanks for the offer.

Anytime what you looking to run at home? Sometimes there is something better than a Pi. For home servers I use old Thin clients that have had a SATA port soldered on or a PCI SATA port hanging out the side

Intending to run:

OVPN (my router doesn't have the capability)

TCP/UDP load balancer (router GUI is shit and takes forever to load)

Offsite backups (into a thumbdrive or HDD)

Time Machine backups (I know there's a guide to do it)

Tinc

LookingGlass (within home network, for doing accurate traceroutes and MTRs)

Perhaps a Syncthing relay, since bandwidth is unlimited

Shitty atom netbook + Pi should do it, or a single laptop

I have a VyOS setup on the netbook (No tinc support though, you can use pfSense for that) + backup server on Pi. For the backup server, OpenMediaVault provides a boatload of features and runs quire fast, even on the Pi. Not sure about running it on other Pi versions, it was run originally on the Pi 2.

Side Note: Setup may not be for everyone as I had power usage in mind when deciding what to keep on 24/7. My city charges electricity at TOU prices, and the prices are pathetic and raise each year for no reason -_-

theroyalstudent · August 2016

@ALinuxNinja said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@doghouch said:

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

I got 1Mb up and 20Mb down xD

Got 6 servers running and well yeah offsite backups are fun

To save power, I suppose we could generate some nice power from water and put servers in the...

Toilet.

Premium Internet Access (via 4G):

You aren't far off one of the things I've done. I own an allotment (like a garden else where for farming related stuff)

One issue I have is watering it sometimes I can't make it down so I have a raspberry pi hooked up to a car battery which has a solar charger and a water turbine attached to the mains water pipe. On days over 20 degrees (pulled from weather forecast) it switches water on for 5 minutes in the morning and 5 minutes at lunch and night. I can override it as its connected to 3G network and I can force it to water or not for the day. Quite a nifty idea and only took 3 days to put it in

Ah, cool. Unfortunately RPis are still

too expensive here. Looking to self-hosting some servers at home to take advantage of my home connection and cut down on my server bills, though.

Raspberry Pi Zero £4? If you need one shoot me a PM and if you pay for postage I'll send you an original model B I have laying about.

Pi Zero seems a bit too weak for what I want to run at home - I'll see about the model B though! Thanks for the offer.

Anytime what you looking to run at home? Sometimes there is something better than a Pi. For home servers I use old Thin clients that have had a SATA port soldered on or a PCI SATA port hanging out the side

Intending to run:

OVPN (my router doesn't have the capability)

TCP/UDP load balancer (router GUI is shit and takes forever to load)

Offsite backups (into a thumbdrive or HDD)

Time Machine backups (I know there's a guide to do it)

Tinc

LookingGlass (within home network, for doing accurate traceroutes and MTRs)

Perhaps a Syncthing relay, since bandwidth is unlimited

Shitty atom netbook + Pi should do it, or a single laptop

I have a VyOS setup on the netbook (No tinc support though, you can use pfSense for that) + backup server on Pi. For the backup server, OpenMediaVault provides a boatload of features and runs quire fast, even on the Pi. Not sure about running it on other Pi versions, it was run originally on the Pi 2.

Side Note: Setup may not be for everyone as I had power usage in mind when deciding what to keep on 24/7. My city charges electricity at TOU prices, and the prices are pathetic and raise each year for no reason -_-

Not gonna get any power sucking Atoms into my house, unfortunately. It's either an E3 server (gotta find the money to import it?) or Raspberry Pi(s).

E3 means I would be moving half my services back home, to make the power fees worth.

RPi(s) means low consumption of power, and power bills that don't cost a bomb.

PrincessOfCats · August 2016

@theroyalstudent said:

@ALinuxNinja said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@theroyalstudent said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@doghouch said:

@jh said:
This is more crowdsourcing than outsourcing. Maybe we can each host each others' sites in our basements and give this guy some $ for the privilege.

I have a beefy server in my basement... the only problem is that I only pay for 1 Mbps upload

I got 1Mb up and 20Mb down xD

Got 6 servers running and well yeah offsite backups are fun

To save power, I suppose we could generate some nice power from water and put servers in the...

Toilet.

Premium Internet Access (via 4G):

You aren't far off one of the things I've done. I own an allotment (like a garden else where for farming related stuff)

One issue I have is watering it sometimes I can't make it down so I have a raspberry pi hooked up to a car battery which has a solar charger and a water turbine attached to the mains water pipe. On days over 20 degrees (pulled from weather forecast) it switches water on for 5 minutes in the morning and 5 minutes at lunch and night. I can override it as its connected to 3G network and I can force it to water or not for the day. Quite a nifty idea and only took 3 days to put it in

Ah, cool. Unfortunately RPis are still

too expensive here. Looking to self-hosting some servers at home to take advantage of my home connection and cut down on my server bills, though.

Raspberry Pi Zero £4? If you need one shoot me a PM and if you pay for postage I'll send you an original model B I have laying about.

Pi Zero seems a bit too weak for what I want to run at home - I'll see about the model B though! Thanks for the offer.

Anytime what you looking to run at home? Sometimes there is something better than a Pi. For home servers I use old Thin clients that have had a SATA port soldered on or a PCI SATA port hanging out the side

Intending to run:

OVPN (my router doesn't have the capability)

TCP/UDP load balancer (router GUI is shit and takes forever to load)

Offsite backups (into a thumbdrive or HDD)

Time Machine backups (I know there's a guide to do it)

Tinc

LookingGlass (within home network, for doing accurate traceroutes and MTRs)

Perhaps a Syncthing relay, since bandwidth is unlimited

Shitty atom netbook + Pi should do it, or a single laptop

I have a VyOS setup on the netbook (No tinc support though, you can use pfSense for that) + backup server on Pi. For the backup server, OpenMediaVault provides a boatload of features and runs quire fast, even on the Pi. Not sure about running it on other Pi versions, it was run originally on the Pi 2.

Side Note: Setup may not be for everyone as I had power usage in mind when deciding what to keep on 24/7. My city charges electricity at TOU prices, and the prices are pathetic and raise each year for no reason -_-

Not gonna get any power sucking Atoms into my house, unfortunately. It's either an E3 server (gotta find the money to import it?) or Raspberry Pi(s).

E3 means I would be moving half my services back home, to make the power fees worth.

RPi(s) means low consumption of power, and power bills that don't cost a bomb.

Nah, not that much power.

http://ark.intel.com/products/36331/Intel-Atom-Processor-N270-512K-Cache-1_60-GHz-533-MHz-FSB

vyos@tor-01:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model       : 28
model name  : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270   @ 1.60GHz
stepping    : 2
microcode   : 0x20a
cpu MHz     : 1600.000
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings    : 2
core id     : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid      : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fdiv_bug    : no
f00f_bug    : no
coma_bug    : no
fpu     : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp      : yes
flags       : fpu vme de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 xtpr pdcm movbe lahf_lm dtherm
bogomips    : 3191.88
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model       : 28
model name  : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270   @ 1.60GHz
stepping    : 2
microcode   : 0x20a
cpu MHz     : 1600.000
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings    : 2
core id     : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid      : 1
initial apicid  : 1
fdiv_bug    : no
f00f_bug    : no
coma_bug    : no
fpu     : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp      : yes
flags       : fpu vme de tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 xtpr pdcm movbe lahf_lm dtherm
bogomips    : 3191.88
clflush size    : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management:

And yes, it's ancient, but it is powerful enough to be a router. It has one interface, which limits a bit what I can do with QoS, but otherwise works just fine with VyOS and pfSense

OpticalSwoosh · August 2016

@ALinuxNinja

Exact same setup as me at home. Samsung N130, Atom N270, 2GB and 160GB HDD.

Currently upgrading to an Atom D2550 board I got for £5 off eBay got 6 of them for £5 :P

PrincessOfCats · August 2016

@OpticalSwoosh said:
@ALinuxNinja

Exact same setup as me at home. Samsung N130, Atom N270, 2GB and 160GB HDD.

Currently upgrading to an Atom D2550 board I got for £5 off eBay got 6 of them for £5 :P

We have the same shitty netbook lol, just that mine has 1GB RAM

OpticalSwoosh · August 2016

@ALinuxNinja said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:
@ALinuxNinja

Exact same setup as me at home. Samsung N130, Atom N270, 2GB and 160GB HDD.

Currently upgrading to an Atom D2550 board I got for £5 off eBay got 6 of them for £5 :P

We have the same shitty netbook lol, just that mine has 1GB RAM

Had mine since new 2008 . Used it as a laptop till 2014 running Windows 8 until it got Debian on this January haha.

Recommend 2GB in it

Nekki · August 2016

Everyone has that shitty netbook. You can pick them up for about £50 in the UK second-hand now and they're spot-on for use as home servers or a nice portable Linux device.

OpticalSwoosh · August 2016

@Nekki said:
Everyone has that shitty netbook. You can pick them up for about £50 in the UK second-hand now and they're spot-on for use as home servers or a nice portable Linux device.

Thin clients you can pull for £20-30. Only advantages of netbook is built in screen etc and battery backup

Nekki · August 2016

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@Nekki said:
Everyone has that shitty netbook. You can pick them up for about £50 in the UK second-hand now and they're spot-on for use as home servers or a nice portable Linux device.

Thin clients you can pull for £20-30. Only advantages of netbook is built in screen etc and battery backup

Those are good advantages to have for a portable device, some would say essential.

OpticalSwoosh · August 2016

@Nekki said:

@OpticalSwoosh said:

@Nekki said:
Everyone has that shitty netbook. You can pick them up for about £50 in the UK second-hand now and they're spot-on for use as home servers or a nice portable Linux device.

Thin clients you can pull for £20-30. Only advantages of netbook is built in screen etc and battery backup

Those are good advantages to have for a portable device, some would say essential.

Agreed but as a home server only battery backup is the advantage. Which is the main thing annoying me about upgrading mine.

doghouch · August 2016

@OpticalSwoosh I'll take your RaspPi B for €4

If it's still available and not stolen by @theroyalstudent pls that's really cheap :P

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