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  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @daily said:

    @Nekki said:

    daily said: I don't last that long. Do they do minutely billed motel rooms?

    You'd leave me hanging?

    Look babe, when I'm done I'm done.

    So cold!

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    SysAdmin said: We've never owned GVH.

    I know, but it's such a delightful rumor, I can never resist spreading it.

    mpkossen said: With the limit raised to $10/month even main-stream providers like Linode are included.

    DO and Vultr already have $5 offers, and for the same specs as Linode. Seems like this is a case where Linode needs to come down rather than the limit going up. I realize you're just using Linode as an example.

    Heck, AWS EC2 could fit in a LEB offer today...a micro is is only $6.57/mo, though $7 doesn't leave much room for bandwidth. But if AWS can fit into $7, anyone should be able to.

    Nekki said: Wild idea; if you want traffic back on LEB, ban offers on LET, then post offers more regularly on LEB.

    I think the market has said they'd rather read a forum than a WP blog. I take myself as an example...I read LET every day, LEB very rarely.

    Part of the problem: no unified login. I mean, this is 2016. How hard is it to sync a Vanilla password file and a Wordpress password file?

    But if we did it that way...I could support that, particularly if someone cooked up a cool BBCODE that allowed us to post links to LEB offers in a neat little formatted box ("OP asked for cheap hosting in Japan. TentacleHost provides specialty services there. Check out [LEB offer=tentacle date=2016-03-05]").

    I know, I know...thanks button was offline for two years...custom BBCODE...I'm dreaming.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @Nekki,

    Jokes aside, I actually think you've had a great idea.
    Forbid offers on LET for a month, require them to submit their offers in LEB.

    I'm sure it'd drive traffic to LEB.

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @raindog308 said:

    Nekki said: Wild idea; if you want traffic back on LEB, ban offers on LET, then post offers more regularly on LEB.

    I think the market has said they'd rather read a forum than a WP blog. I take myself as an example...I read LET every day, LEB very rarely.

    Has the market said that? I dunno. I just always kind of felt that the balance shifted from LEB to LET as soon as offers were allowed on LET.

    I never read LEB anymore, but that's simply because the offers don't interest me anymore; if all the offers were on LEB, do you think you wouldn't visit more frequently?

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • souensouen Member
    edited August 2016

    Previously, I visit LEB for the tutorials and announcements, less recently as I sometimes forget to check the tutorials tab while the front page is mainly offer posts.

    For browsing offers, I prefer the forum's list view the because it shows more offers per page than the LEB post view (30/page compared to 10/page), which makes it easier to skim through and open the ones of interest for more details. It's possible to get the same layout through a feed reader, but there's LET, and discussion is integrated more tightly running on the same board. As a different example, @MrGeneral's thread prompted me to read the LEB article, then back to LET to view the discussion brewing. Maybe as suggested, auto-announcing articles/tutorials with a link to LEB in forum threads (and on LEB, a comments button links to the forum thread) could help with integrating the two platforms and directing traffic.

    LET has more listings and where I tend to hear about new providers and novelties people are running, whereas I might check LEB if looking for an offer by a provider that I know regularly advertises there (and it's nice on occasion to see a new provider offering servers in less-advertised locations.) The advantage of the LEB listings is being able to sort by location and virtualisation type, but there's no option to sort by multiple tags or filters like in many online stores, e.g. KVM in the Netherlands at a given price range.

    In short, I'd probably visit LEB more if it offered a more convenient interface for browsing offers, and different article features/type of posts on the front page.

    Edit to add: just realised this got a bit offtopic from the original post. On topic, currently I don't have a strong opinion about the price limit changes. $7 seemed like an uncommon price point and acted as a conversation starter for new members, and I'm not sure raising it to $10 makes any difference, in terms of challenging providers to come up with specialised/insane-but-somehow-useful plans that fit the price point. $10 is as nice and round number as any, I guess.

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  • LeeLee Veteran

    raindog308 said: DO and Vultr already have $5 offers, and for the same specs as Linode. Seems like this is a case where Linode needs to come down rather than the limit going up. I realize you're just using Linode as an example.

    Linode starts at $10 so you can't compare that to the $5 DO as Linode offer better resource overall, you would need to spend double at DO to match what the Linode $10 offers.

  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @souen said:
    Previously, I visit LEB for the tutorials and announcements, less recently as I sometimes forget to check the tutorials tab while the front page is mainly offer posts.

    For browsing offers, I prefer the forum's list view the because it shows more offers per page than the LEB post view (30/page compared to 10/page), which makes it easier to skim through and open the ones of interest for more details. It's possible to get the same layout through a feed reader, but there's LET, and discussion is integrated more tightly running on the same board. As a different example, @MrGeneral's thread prompted me to read the LEB article, then back to LET to view the discussion brewing. Maybe as suggested, auto-announcing articles/tutorials with a link to LEB in forum threads (and on LEB, a comments button links to the forum thread) could help with integrating the two platforms and directing traffic.

    LET has more listings and where I tend to hear about new providers and novelties people are running, whereas I might check LEB if looking for an offer by a provider that I know regularly advertises there (and it's nice on occasion to see a new provider offering servers in less-advertised locations.) The advantage of the LEB listings is being able to sort by location and virtualisation type, but there's no option to sort by multiple tags or filters like in many online stores, e.g. KVM in the Netherlands at a given price range.

    In short, I'd probably visit LEB more if it offered a more convenient interface for browsing offers, and different article features/type of posts on the front page.

    Edit to add: just realised this got a bit offtopic from the original post. On topic, currently I don't have a strong opinion about the price limit changes. $7 seemed like an uncommon price point and acted as a conversation starter for new members, and I'm not sure raising it to $10 makes any difference, in terms of challenging providers to come up with specialised/insane-but-somehow-useful plans that fit the price point. $10 is as nice and round number as any, I guess.

    I like your posts. I like the way you think.

    I suggested a different thing for LEB. Let's say that it may happen, under a prototype and then you guys decide wether you like it or not. Can't disclose much for now as @SysAdmin didn't have time to speak about this yet.

    There's a lot that can be done.
    I did like the suggestion for auto-announcing new posts in LEB. I have a lot of ideas in my mind. Not sure it'll work or not, but I'm looking forward to implement those.

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  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @MrGeneral said:

    I suggested a different thing for LEB. Let's say that it may happen, under a prototype and then you guys decide wether you like it or not. Can't disclose much for now as @SysAdmin didn't have time to speak about this yet.

    You can disclose it, you're just choosing not to in order to build anticipation.

    Thanked by 1mpkossen
  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    @Nekki said:

    @MrGeneral said:

    I suggested a different thing for LEB. Let's say that it may happen, under a prototype and then you guys decide wether you like it or not. Can't disclose much for now as @SysAdmin didn't have time to speak about this yet.


    You can disclose it, you're just choosing not to in order to build anticipation.

    I didn't disclose it because until now, nothing has been decided, nor I got Alex to answer me.:P

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @MrGeneral said:

    @Nekki said:

    @MrGeneral said:

    I suggested a different thing for LEB. Let's say that it may happen, under a prototype and then you guys decide wether you like it or not. Can't disclose much for now as @SysAdmin didn't have time to speak about this yet.


    You can disclose it, you're just choosing not to in order to build anticipation.

    I didn't disclose it because until now, nothing has been decided, nor I got Alex to answer me.:P

    So basically you sent @sysadmin and idea, and that's it.

    Thanked by 1mpkossen
  • dedicadosdedicados Member
    edited August 2016

    What about separate VPS from Dedicated.

    -Help 
    -Offers VPS
    -Offers Dedicated
    -Shared Hosting Offers
    
  • @dedicados said:
    What about separate VPS from Dedicated.

    -Help 
    -Offers VPS
    -Offers Dedicated
    -Shared Hosting Offers
    

    What? Not sure what you mean.

  • Yeah, i suggest to have two separate Categories, one for VPS offers and the other for Dedicated Servers.

  • @dedicados said:
    Yeah, i suggest to have two separate Categories, one for VPS offers and the other for Dedicated Servers.

    I think that has been the idea for a long time and if things go right, this may just happen (plus tabs for other categories as well).

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  • DewlanceVPSDewlanceVPS Member, Patron Provider

    +1 for @mpkossen for President of LET forum.

  • @DewlanceVPS said:
    +1 for @mpkossen for President of LET forum.

    Just a fyi: mpkossen resigned from being administrator - I don't think he wants to take the position again. (and what about @jarland?)

  • seriesnseriesn Member
    edited August 2016

    Wrong sub sorry

  • Please tell be that this is the 'before' state... ;)

  • It is. Just woke up man > @Amitz said:

    Please tell be that this is the 'before' state... ;)

    Thanked by 1Amitz
  • DewlanceVPSDewlanceVPS Member, Patron Provider

    @doghouch said:

    @DewlanceVPS said:
    +1 for @mpkossen for President of LET forum.

    Just a fyi: mpkossen resigned from being administrator - I don't think he wants to take the position again. (and what about @jarland?)

    I think Jarland is super moderator.

  • LeeLee Veteran
    edited August 2016

    DewlanceVPS said: I think Jarland is super moderator.

    No that is just what he is aspiring to become.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    DewlanceVPS said: I think Jarland is super moderator.

    Maybe one day.

    Thanked by 1Amitz
  • @DewlanceVPS said:

    @doghouch said:

    @DewlanceVPS said:
    +1 for @mpkossen for President of LET forum.

    Just a fyi: mpkossen resigned from being administrator - I don't think he wants to take the position again. (and what about @jarland?)

    I think Jarland is super moderator.

    He used to be, but he got promoted when I resigned (under my recommendation actually). I can't say we haven't had our differences (I've been yelling at him a lot in Skype chats) but I think he's handling things quite well here.

    Thanked by 2jar vedran
  • @jarland said:

    DewlanceVPS said: I think Jarland is super moderator.

    Maybe one day.

    Not under my reign, Minion! ;)

    Thanked by 1jar
  • Thats good news that the prices for VPS was raised up..It should be easier for some Companies to provide a really good Deal for the LEB Visitors.

    We also created a new amazing Deal as we had read this, i hope our Ticket should be read fast :)

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @Internoc24 said:
    Thats good news that the prices for VPS was raised up..It should be easier for some Companies to provide a really good Deal for the LEB Visitors.

    We also created a new amazing Deal as we had read this, i hope our Ticket should be read fast :)

    And because you posted this, you'll never be listed. GOOD DAY!

    Thanked by 1qrwteyrutiyoup
  • @Nekki said:

    @Internoc24 said:
    Thats good news that the prices for VPS was raised up..It should be easier for some Companies to provide a really good Deal for the LEB Visitors.

    We also created a new amazing Deal as we had read this, i hope our Ticket should be read fast :)

    And because you posted this, you'll never be listed. GOOD DAY!

    What is your Problem ?

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @Internoc24 said:

    @Nekki said:

    @Internoc24 said:
    Thats good news that the prices for VPS was raised up..It should be easier for some Companies to provide a really good Deal for the LEB Visitors.

    We also created a new amazing Deal as we had read this, i hope our Ticket should be read fast :)

    And because you posted this, you'll never be listed. GOOD DAY!

    What is your Problem ?

    I haven't got one. Yours is that you'll never be listed on LEB.

    Thanked by 1qrwteyrutiyoup
  • @Nekki said:

    @Internoc24 said:

    @Nekki said:

    @Internoc24 said:
    Thats good news that the prices for VPS was raised up..It should be easier for some Companies to provide a really good Deal for the LEB Visitors.

    We also created a new amazing Deal as we had read this, i hope our Ticket should be read fast :)

    And because you posted this, you'll never be listed. GOOD DAY!

    What is your Problem ?

    I haven't got one. Yours is that you'll never be listed on LEB.

    Oh..Mr.Troll..We are sorry, we are listed several Times in the past...ups...:-) Have a nice Day!

  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @Internoc24 said:

    @Nekki said:I

    @Internoc24 said:

    @Nekki said:

    @Internoc24 said:
    Thats good news that the prices for VPS was raised up..It should be easier for some Companies to provide a really good Deal for the LEB Visitors.

    We also created a new amazing Deal as we had read this, i hope our Ticket should be read fast :)

    And because you posted this, you'll never be listed. GOOD DAY!

    What is your Problem ?

    I haven't got one. Yours is that you'll never be listed on LEB.

    Oh..Mr.Troll..We are sorry, we are listed several Times in the past...ups...:-) Have a nice Day!

    I wouldn't know, haven't been on LEB in yonks.

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