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5 safe country where they can host their website for journalists

02mia0202mia02 Member
edited April 2016 in Providers

Finland

Finland, which ranks first in the press freedom index. I propose provider: Creanova.org

Norway

Norway, which ranks second in the press freedom index. Norwegian Internet providers has served a period of WikiLeaks. (Bahnhof Norway.)

Denmark

Denmark, which ranks third in the press freedom index. I propose provider: Meebox.net

The Netherlands

The Netherlands, which ranks fourth in the press freedom index. Dutch internet providers has served a period of WikiLeaks. (CyberBunker, Ecatel.co.uk)

Sweden

Sweden, which ranks fifth in the press freedom index. Swedish Internet provider has to serve a period of WikiLeaks. (PRQ, Bahnhof)

Bonus country: Iceland

Iceland is actually the safest countries for journalists are expensive, but the service here. I propose provider: FlokiNET.is, Orangewebsite.com

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  • let.blogspot?

  • K4Y5K4Y5 Member

    Enough with the fucking articles, damnit!

    LETers know how to google for it!

  • 02mia0202mia02 Member
    edited April 2016

    @K4Y5 said:
    Enough with the fucking articles, damnit!

    LETers know how to google for it!

    I wrote this article myself!

  • ZappieZappie Member, Host Rep, LIR

    I was always under the impression that USA is one of the better countries to host in when talking about freedom of speech content?

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  • @budi1413 said:
    let.blogspot?

    You're not funny. Now go play with your peers.

  • Zappie said: I was always under the impression that USA is one of the better countries to host in when talking about freedom of speech content?

    I assume you're being sarcastic. ;)

  • @Zappie said:
    I was always under the impression that USA is one of the better countries to host in when talking about freedom of speech content?

    USA press freedom index ranking is #49.

  • 02mia02 said: USA press freedom index ranking is #49.

    Not to mention continuing government surveilance and NSLs. Here's some cut/paste:

    National Security Letters (NSLs) are an extraordinary search procedure which gives the FBI the power to compel the disclosure of customer records held by banks, telephone companies, Internet Service Providers, and others. Recipients of NSLs are subject to a gag order that forbids them from ever revealing the letters' existence to their coworkers to their friends or even to their family members much less the public.

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  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited April 2016

    NO and DK are certainly not free speech heavens. Neither is FI. Nowhere in the EU in general. NL is mostly fine, but I personally know of a fairly popular journalist based in NL which was directly affected by gov sponsored attacks.

    And Iceland... where even porn is illegal and a DDoS could take down half of the country, lol.

    Zappie said: I was always under the impression that USA is one of the better countries to host in when talking about freedom of speech content?

    Indeed.

    Ole_Juul said: government surveilance

    This hasn't much to do (directly) with freedom of speech.

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  • 02mia0202mia02 Member
    edited April 2016

    @Ole_Juul @Nyr USA remains to be seen what makes every moment.

  • @Zappie said:
    I was always under the impression that USA is one of the better countries to host in when talking about freedom of speech content?

    LOL

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    In general, people overestimates freedom of speech in the EU.

    In my country for example, photographing police is illegal and even journalists get fined for that. You also can't also protest near gov buildings, "disrespecting" a police officer (per his criteria) means a fine, as does not carrying ID doc with you or "attacking" the police with lights (yeah).

    Those are just some examples of many. Don't take me wrong, I still like Spain and prefer it to the US, but I wouldn't exactly call the situation here "free speech". And there is still worse in other EU countries.

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  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    Many people is laughing at that but he is actually right. Most of the conflictive content in the Internet is actually hosted in the US, as are most of the English investigative journalism websites and many foreign ones too.

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  • @Nyr said:
    Many people is laughing at that but he is actually right. Most of the conflictive content in the Internet is actually hosted in the US, as are most of the English investigative journalism websites and many foreign ones too.

    Middle East never unfaithful to the USA translates into a bloodbath.

  • info_hashinfo_hash Member
    edited April 2016

    @Nyr is right here, so much controversial content is hosted in the US - and there is no data retention law there. In most EU countries you legally have to keep logs of who access your server (website, mail service, etc) for several months. In the US it seems possible not to log a thing, and seems like (for example) riseup is able to operate just fine not keeping any log...

    In the end, like for DMCA, from what I read, the provider seems more important than the country.

  • AmitzAmitz Member

    info_hash said: In the US it seems possible not to log a thing, and seems like (for example) riseup is able to operate just fine not keeping any log...

    It's because they outsourced all logging to the NSA. The USA are a very service-focussed country and save you the hassle of keeping own logs.

  • frankfrank Member

    @Amitz said:

    Yeah look up the Utah Data Center the NSA operates, the reported figures of that place make all other DC's look amateur. The NSA doesn't need other DC's to store data when they have that monster available.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Please post some examples where the US government has forced people to take political discussion off the Internet.

    The KKK, Communist Party of the USA, antisemitism, NAMBLA, all manner of religious extremism, etc - it's all legal in the US with zero censorship.

  • raindog308 said: Please post some examples where the US government has forced people to take political discussion off the Internet.

    Arguably, wikileaks? But not through traditional channels. IIRC the US authorities were looking to confiscate the domain & payment gateways who processed donations to wikileaks.

    Anyways, I agree with the premise. The USA does not have a major issue of censorship... ultimately if you're doing something on the scale of wikileaks, then prepare to hide in an embassy for a number of years. If you're posting about [president of very small country with no freedom of press] to the detriment of their reputation, best just make sure you're anonymous so you don't somehow disappear.

    Piss the right people off in any country, they'll find a way to shut you down.

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  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Wikileaks is fair though the Pentagon Papers would be a counter-example.

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  • Depends which content will be posted. If nothing against local government Russia or CIS countries the best place..

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  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited April 2016

    @fitvpn said:
    Depends which content will be posted. If nothing against local government Russia or CIS countries the best place..

    Not if the content has anything related to drugs or sex, among others... and Russian law is really difficult and complex anyway.

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  • Nyr said: Not if the content has anything related to drugs or sex, among others

    Yes exactly, but you can got flagged..

  • @Nyr said:
    photographing police is illegal and even journalists get fined for that.

    Well, peasants are not supposed to be able to look at their superiors. The proper stance is to bow the head in 45-60 degrees angle when they are near. Giving them free stuff is also recommended - you want to be in their good moods.

    Freedom of speech in Southern Europe is a joke (no idea about the North).

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited April 2016

    @deadbeef said:

    I know, I know... I personally got harassed/investigated just for taking a photo of some police officers back when it was legal some years ago. It became undesirable that people could show police misbehavior so gov just outlawed it in the name of security.

    We also get illegal surveillance relatively often, among other undesirable behaviour from unaccountable security forces, which during the last decades have done things from politician-approved assassinations to providing explosives to known terrorists.

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  • @Ole_Juul said:

    Not to mention continuing government surveilance and NSLs.

    That kind of stuff happens in every single country in the world.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Microlinux said: That kind of stuff happens in every single country in the world.

    Vatican City doesn't even have a datacenter.

    Not sure if Monaco does, though they do have an ISP and with their gambling industry, they probably do.

  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited April 2016

    @raindog308 said:
    Not sure if Monaco does, though they do have an ISP and with their gambling industry, they probably do.

    http://www.monacodatacenter.com/
    I colocate my taxes there.

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  • @raindog308 said:
    Vatican City doesn't even have a datacenter.
    Not sure if Monaco does, though they do have an ISP and with their gambling industry, they probably do.

    You don't think the nerve center of the Catholic empire and city-state whose existence is basically gambling have surveillance capability??

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