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Raided for running a Tor exit - Accepting donations for legal expenses

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  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited December 2012

    @t0p3a said: I am sure from these raid news alot of Tor servers are going to close down because they will be afraid to run them anymore.

    That is true and this is the reason they are doing it in the first place. Either that or outlaw Tor and encryption in general, i am afraid that as long as there is encryption, even if they close down Tor, there will be other projects similar, and even with outlawed encryption, ppl will use plausible deniability, for example steganography.
    In the end the little guys will be wiretapped all over and the real criminals wont give a fuck. That is so obvious that it might be the desired outcome in the end.

  • I have this strange feeling even if using Tor or other encryption nothing is private on the internet someone higher up like governments/police/fbi/cia they can bypass everything for sure.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited December 2012

    @t0p3a said: they can bypass everything for sure.

    This is another way to attack the anonymity online.
    We know everything so why bother, even more, if you try to hide we will raise a flag and someone will look you up.
    Well, if it was so, there wasnt such a campaign with CP and terrorism against Tor, for example, why would they bother...

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    @William said: Enough PayPal for now - All PayPal donaters get a mail in the next days asking if they want their donation returned afterwards or not.

    Thanks all!

    I was donating this week :(

  • NexusNexus Member
    edited December 2012

    Very sad thread, hope you can get back on your feet ASAP. Unfortunately cannot donate right now, but I am wishing you the best of luck.

    However, LET is a great place for support, the amount of people who donated here just screams there is hope still left in humanity good work everyone.

  • An online italian magazine wrote an article about William: http://punto-informatico.it/3663372/PI/News/server-tor-inguaiati-pedoporno.aspx

  • @steve81 pedoporno What the actual fuck..

  • @eastonch I don't understand what do you mean.

  • @Steve81 said: @eastonch I don't understand what do you mean.

    The word "pedoporno" is at the end of the url you posted.

  • DewlanceVPSDewlanceVPS Member, Patron Provider

    Do you still need donation? (please update so I can help you)

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited December 2012

    @kbeezie said: The word "pedoporno" is at the end of the url you posted.

    The article is on william's side, they even link here about the legal fees.

    @craigb said: My interest at this point is to get a handle on what opportunities LE had to identify the IP as a tor exit node (hence the direct question to @william)

    Since william has probably his hands full atm, here is my answer:
    https://metrics.torproject.org/exonerator.html?targetaddr=&targetPort=&ip=109.99.29.245&timestamp=2012-07-07#relay

    That links to a query I did about one of my home exit nodes. As you can see, you can input the date and IP, also will be able to check the IP/port combination that the exit would allow.
    There were free, public ways to check, the police didnt do their job, especially since they were supposedly cooperating with the polish police and should have known those already found out from william that was a tor exit node if they were so incompetent ot so lazy to check it online for themselves.
    Or, rather, they did their job well if their job was to scare ppl away from Tor.

  • @Maounique said: That links to a query I did about one of my home exit nodes. As you can see, you can input the date and IP, also will be able to check the IP/port combination that the exit would allow.

    There were free, public ways to check, the police didnt do their job, especially since they were supposedly cooperating with the polish police and should have known those already found out from william that was a tor exit node if they were so incompetent ot so lazy to check it online for themselves.
    Or, rather, they did their job well if their job was to scare ppl away from Tor.

    I think it's also about accountability/etc would such a free tool hold up in certain courts as evidence for or against someone? Not so much about lazy, but if they can legally use such information without risk of tampering/accuracy, with that they can only take the Tor developer's word for it, and the Tor developers won't give their word on any legal matters.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    Actually, police pretended they didnt know. There is one thing to know and another to be able to prove in court, true, but the peoblem here is that they either didnt know or they pretended they didnt know.
    In either of these cases they have a very big problem.
    And us with them.

  • @kbeezie said: The word "pedoporno" is at the end of the url you posted.

    Still I don't understand why he quoted it. Is part of the article title, what's the problem?

  • @steve81 I was just stunned by the italian name of it.

  • Are there any updates on this case?

  • will be donating later today. I'll donate $25

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    He said he doesnt need it anymore.

  • @norg said: Are there any updates on this case?

    No, now it means waiting - could take long.

  • @Maounique said: He said he doesnt need it anymore.

    I only read his paypal was full, not that he had enough money?

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    @djvdorp said: I only read his paypal was full, not that he had enough money?

    @William said: Enough PayPal for now - All PayPal donaters get a mail in the next days asking if they want their donation returned afterwards or not.

    Thanks all!

  • gameongameon Member
    edited December 2012

    @Roberthussy Gr8 that you got to find interesting things , now if u would be kind enough to remove that irrelevant link (SEO services) from your post. Do understand that this is not a link building platform

  • @Maounique said: Enough PayPal for now - All PayPal donaters get a mail in the next days asking if they want their donation returned afterwards or not.

    Thanks all!

    Which indeed says he got enough money over paypal, but not that he has got enough funds :)

  • It basically only means that paypal is not contacting me about unlocking it, so sending more is useless...

  • kbeeziekbeezie Member
    edited December 2012

    @William said: It basically only means that paypal is not contacting me about unlocking it, so sending more is useless...

    It's gona take a while, especially if it has anything to do with donations for legal expenses etc (they seem to be bias against anything related to criminal accusations).

    PS: You may have to actually pick up the phone and call em, dealing with them strictly online will get you no where.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited December 2012

    @Voss said: You shouldn't be waiting for PayPal to contact you

    What do they have to lose for keeping your money for longer ? For sinking someone which fights for privacy ?
    I wouldnt expect them to release the money, nobody can force them, after all, their ToS says they can keep your money if they want to.

  • @Maounique said: nobody can force them

    Wrong, they are a bank in the EU

  • @Jack said: Who need's bailing out now :-P

    The global community when this whole house of cards falls, with fake money, but that is a story for another day.

  • joepie91joepie91 Member, Patron Provider

    @miTgiB said: Wrong, they are a bank in the EU

    Dutch banks seemed to do pretty well holding transfers for sometimes days on end, for years... until they were finally forced to complete transfers in <1 working day.

  • By the way what's the Case number that was on the arrest warrant or whatever it was?

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