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Raided for running a Tor exit - Accepting donations for legal expenses
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If you can't get the money I sent you out of paypal refund it and I'll send it a different way.
Gee, hope you mean the search warrant...
why do you "hope"? wasn't he taken in after stuff was searched and confiscated, either way, is there a case number attached to his case? I assume there would be or he wouldn't be needing legal funds.
Eh, Really? I thought US treated them as a bank.
I assumed the europe side of paypal was more strict then the US, due to not being a bank. :O
They're evil anyway.
They're not treated as banks in the US, they're "Deposit Brokers" as such they're not held to the same rules as a bank, otherwise people would be winning lawsuits left and right over frozen funds.
Sooo whats the deal with this, too lazy to read
off-topic: guys i can't read for shit someone tell me what happened on this thread now
on-topic: @William good luck and keep us posted
We'll you know there is that thing called swift justice, so might take a few months.
Any news on this?
No, as said, it's waiting now.
Sorry for gravedigging but @William is this about your case? If yes that really sucks
Timing's about right. He just got the ruling and was talking about it yesterday or the day before on IRC.
A number of transactions into that BTC wallet look like it could have come from money laundering. Interesting.
I'm a supermodel and lowend.co still runs silkroad.
Yup.
Do you even know what to look for?
@William
Did you got out of this mess yet?
And? What was the ruling? Not everyone is on IRC, so, please share.
If @William feels comfortable sharing the details on his ruling on LET, then I'll allow him to be the party to share it.
I thought rulings are public, if that is not the case in austria, then I am sorry.
If this link https://network23.org/blackoutaustria/2014/07/01/to-whom-it-may-concern-english-version/ is about William, he got convicted.
I will have so much fun now, going to get some tor exit nodes in Austria.
I know how it feels to get raided by the police and get convicted. I wish @William all the best and i hope that he will get over it some day.
A conviction isn't a final thing, i hope he can fight this back and the court ruling is changed by the upper instance.
What even...
Well, I would have expected this in US, the fact it strikes so much closer to home makes it alarming. Austria used to be a relatively free country.
He posted it in his blog: https://rdns.im/court-official-statement-part-1.
Damn, at least they didnt manage to convince the judge he was actually raping kids in his basement.
I see they managed to win the harassment too. It looks like they got what they wanted, chilling effects with no consequence for the law enforcers at all.
This is bad, if William doesn't intend to appeal it, this probably sets a precedent in Austria which could make offering any kind of internet or other communication services illegal.
I feel terrible for him, however he cant really appeal anyway I think, from what I understand the charges now are based on being complicit and you cant run a tor exit or even a relay and claim you are not complicit to at least some degree.
I think the punishment is WAY WAY out of proportion though for first offence.
There should be no punishment. Every ISP KNOWS there is something illegal at any time running through the wires, this does not mean they close shop to stop enabling the criminals. The law should protect the people offering communications services from the police. This obviously forces a split between the official internet and the free one. The days where there will be a choice are closer and closer.