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  • LordSpock said: Hushmail?

    known to cooperate with US agencies.

  • @William said:
    known to cooperate with US agencies.

    Cooperates with Canadian authorities in Canadian investigations. I have yet to see evidence of their cooperation with US authorities.

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    Gunter said: Cooperates with Canadian authorities in Canadian investigations. I have yet to see evidence of their cooperation with US authorities.

    Then look harder, because they will (obviously) cooperate as long as the country has an MLAT with Canada:

    http://www.wired.com/2007/11/encrypted-e-mai/

  • I don't think many people know what privacy means. I mean hushmail? Come on!

    I know every alternative email service and I have accounts at almost everyone.

    I know my stuff but I guess what I'm looking for doesn't exist. Which is sad!

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  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2015

    heartbleed said: I don't think many people know what privacy means. I mean hushmail? Come on!

    Run your own mail server at home, keep the disk encrypted, use PGP. You're the one looking to host your e-mail on a third party platform, clearly you're willing to sacrifice some security.

    Hushmail and similar services ensure that your e-mail remains secure from intrusion not by being "offshore", but with encryption. This can sometimes be undermined by government (e.g. changing the Java applet), but usually it's because of user problem (e.g. using less secure webmail interface).

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    perennate said: Run your own mail server at home

    Pretty much impossible to deliver emails from a domestic connection without a relay (and that would not be "from home" then).

  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2015

    Nyr said: Pretty much impossible to deliver emails from a domestic connection without a relay (and that would not be "from home" then).

    If your government is willing to monitor Internet traffic for your e-mail then it doesn't matter if you're delivering from residential connection or from a relay. At that point the only solution is PGP or similar system. Running the mail server at home and encrypting the disk makes it harder to get stored messages.

  • NyrNyr Community Contributor, Veteran

    @perennate said:
    If your government is willing to monitor Internet traffic for your e-mail then it doesn't matter if you're delivering from residential connection or from a relay.

    It actually does matter since you would probably connect to the relay via SSL and it could be in a different jurisdiction, like it's the case for many users in the EU :)

    Anyway my point was most ISPs will reject mail coming from a domestic IP, so no chance of delivery.

  • Please don't mention Hushmail again. Next you will recommend Safe-Mail.Net!

    You obviously have no idea about privacy if you recommend those two services.

    They do nothing to protect you and rat you out at the first possible site of wrong doing

    I know what PGP is btw and I use it.

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  • heartbleed said: Hello LET! I am looking for a offshore email provider that I can use with my own domain.

    Have you looked into Hushmail? From what I can understand they are one of the few good private email services.

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  • I am sure @hearthbleed is happy to read your comment...

  • perennate said: If your government is willing to monitor Internet traffic for your e-mail then it doesn't matter if you're delivering from residential connection or from a relay. At that point the only solution is PGP or similar system. Running the mail server at home and encrypting the disk makes it harder to get stored messages.

    You can't run an email server on a residential connection, no one would accept your mails. Email servers use transport encryption, if both sender and recipient support it. Only transport encryption also hides the metadata from nosy people.

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  • NekkiNekki Veteran

    @heartbleed said:

    They do nothing to protect you and rat you out at the first possible site of wrong doing

    So at the very least you're expecting it to look like you're doing wrong things?

  • sigh Do you understand what real privacy means?

    It means no one can look at your mail except yourself. It obviously doesn't exist.

    I am not looking to spam or host CP. I just want real privacy with my email.

  • @4n0nx said: …Email servers use transport encryption, if both sender and recipient support it. Only transport encryption also hides the metadata from nosy people.

    Do you mean MX to MX only, or all the way, i.e. sender - MX - MX - recipient? If the latter, care to share how to configure that on Postix/Dovecot?

  • heartbleed said: It means no one can look at your mail except yourself. It obviously doesn't exist.

    Then why are you asking for it? You are saying it can't exist with an email provider (which you are right about) yet you keep asking for one

  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2015

    4n0nx said: You can't run an email server on a residential connection, no one would accept your mails.

    Run your mail server at home, send outgoing mail via a relay. Point is to store your messages encrypted and make it less likely that someone can compromise the server without your knowledge. Assuming relay is in the same country, relay does not make it any easier for terrorist or government to monitor your e-mail (just relay TCP and not SMTP, so your relay never sees plaintext unless the destination mail server doesn't support transport encryption).

  • MrXMrX Member
    edited August 2015

    So why exactly aren't you getting an offshore VPS (however you wish to define it) and setting it up yourself?

    Pick up a KVM VPS and encrypt the file system, even. Your host could in theory make a clone of your VPS whilst unlocked but short of that, your data and emails are private on the server.

    Or get a dedicated server with KVM/IPMI and encrypt the file system that way.

    The weakest point of any email privacy structure is the recipient and transit points. If your recipient is using Gmail, it's under whatever relevant jurisdiction that particular Google account happens to be.

  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep

    heartbleed said: It means no one can look at your mail except yourself.

    It is easy to set up with reasonable level of security:

    1. Install normal mail server, e.g. Postfix + Dovecot.
    2. Remove wifi/ethernet card from the computer.
    3. Now, unless someone breaks in and takes your computer, you will be the only one who can see your e-mail.
    4. Encrypt your disk for additional security. Keep your computer shutdown when you're not sending/receiving e-mail.
  • perennate said: Now, unless someone breaks in and takes your computer, you will be the only one who can see your e-mail.

    The server can still get hacked though

  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2015

    gsrdgrdghd said: The server can still get hacked though

    Hacked how? Via the power supply?

  • rskrsk Member, Patron Provider

    perennate said: Via the power supply?

    Made my day :)

  • perennate said: Hacked how? Via the power supply?

    Yes, side-channel attacks can be performed via the power supply. However I was refering to the fact that if the server is to be sued for anything, it will have to listen on a public IP address.

  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2015

    gsrdgrdghd said: Yes, side-channel attacks can be performed via the power supply. However I was refering to the fact that if the server is to be sued for anything, it will have to listen on a public IP address.

    OP said "no one can look at your mail except yourself", it's clear that OP just wants to send e-mails to him/her-self (if OP is not both the sender and the recipient, then that implies there's another copy of the message somewhere). In that case OP can use a mail server without Internet connection. I'm not sure what your point is.

    Also the only power supply attacks I've heard of are extracting data, not hacking the computer (they're also impractical outside of very specific algorithms). Even if you get a password from the power supply, you still can't use it to login, so you have failed to hack the computer.

  • MrXMrX Member

    perennate said:

    Hacked how? Via the power supply?

    http://www.zdnet.com/article/researchers-hack-wired-keyboards-hijack-keystrokes/

    They can't read the emails from this of course but they can keylog all outgoing emails and hijack credentials. Better wrap your computer room in tinfoil and magnets. And place it at least 20 meters underground.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    Best email security: stop using email

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  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep

    MrX said: They can't read the emails from this of course but they can keylog all outgoing emails and hijack credentials. Better wrap your computer room in tinfoil and magnets. And place it at least 20 meters underground.

    Who cares? They still have to break in to use the credentials.

  • So @perennate you seriously thinks that the OP just wants to send emails to himself with a mailserver listening on 127.0.0.1? I can't tell if you are trolling or not

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited August 2015

    @gsrdgrdghd said:
    So perennate you seriously thinks that the OP just wants to send emails to himself with a mailserver listening on 127.0.0.1? I can't tell if you are trolling or not

    What if he puts it in a safe room that is built to block all external signals, the only flow of power is filtered and regulated, and then he has a public computer in another room which he uses to initiate a send, and when he receives mail he can physically walk it to the other computer on a USB drive to add it to the mail server.

    Of course, he'll need a safety procedure for the USB drive. Some sort of decontamination room between the public workstation and the air gapped mail server.

    When sending cat photos, one cannot be too cautious.

    Thanked by 1GM2015
  • perennateperennate Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2015

    gsrdgrdghd said: So @perennate you seriously thinks that the OP just wants to send emails to himself with a mailserver listening on 127.0.0.1? I can't tell if you are trolling or not

    Yes, that's what he asked for.

    heartbleed said: sigh Do you understand what real privacy means?

    It means no one can look at your mail except yourself. It obviously doesn't exist.

    I am not looking to spam or host CP. I just want real privacy with my email.

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