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Online.net Labs launched as scaleway.com (pricing announced)

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  • Downside: not free anymore :(

  • telephonetelephone Member
    edited April 2015

    telephone said: €20 pre-auth charge seems a bit steep to confirm a CC.

    It seems they listen to users feedback. In the back-end, it's now reported as €2 for pre-auth :P

    To register your payment information, we will ask your bank for a €2,00 debit preauthorization. This will appear on your bank statement and be automatically released after 7 days.

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  • NomadNomad Member

    I don't get it...
    Metered or not, the cpu sucks. When I benched it I got a result of 471

    For that price this product seems like a late and awful april 1 joke.

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  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran

    telephone said: we will ask your bank for a €2,00 debit

    Good thing, I'm staying for a while longer... 20 EUR was an insanity.

    Next thing you know, maybe the base price will get changed from 9.99 EUR. :)

  • frankfrank Member
    edited April 2015

    The pricing is double what I thought it would be, and at this price is a slight rip off given they probably cost less than 50 euros each for online to make. Pity at half the price they would have been a good option for a lot of uses, but at this price they really are a poor buy with the only thing of value being the bandwidth, but even the Nano's have almost that, and they are cheaper.

    This is dead in the water, as can't see many people will switch to them given the issues of using ARM and when you get more power for the same money at DO or Linode. Real shame as was looking to move a new product to using these as the web servers, but at this price will probably just put it all on a dedi for the time being.

  • SnapeSnape Member

    CPU isn't that bad for a "cloud" environment; at least it's guaranteed. And the transfer's impressive. At first I wasn't even going to complain about the pricing, but then I took a second look, and holy snickerdoodles do they try to nickle and dime you as only the French can. Spin up servers for ten Euros a month, fine. Want to know your e-mail ticket will be responded to in - guaranteed! - TWELVE HOURS? That'll be another three Euros per month, please. Le sigh. Want a two-hours-or-less response, like you're used to with someplace like atlantic.net? A mere, paltry, trifling... fifty extra euros per month. And that 200MBps looks sexy... oh wait, you wanted the "better" bandwidth, with filtering and everything? That'll be two eurocents per gigabyte transferred. Inbound and outbound, as far as I can tell.

    I guess the pricing is somewhat attractive if you're spinning up a dozen instances or something, but the value-added pricing just feels extreme if you only run 1-3 instances.

    The "infinite storage" looks halfway decent though, unless there's a catch somewhere I'm not seeing...

  • @telephone said:
    I don't mind the pricing. €9.99 ($10.80 USD) for 200Mbit unmetered is not bad! It's good that they have snapshots, reserved IPs and such, but I'd still probably grab a dedi from them over this offer.

    I really really hope their "Infinite Storage" is like S3 and can be accessed externally; €2.00 for 100GB with unlimited requests and transfers... I'm in heaven :)

    The only downside:

    Q. Am I charged when I enter my credit card?

    A. No. when you input your card number, we perform an authorization charge of €20 to ensure the card is valid.This is just a preauthorization: nothing is charged.


    €20 pre-auth charge seems a bit steep to confirm a CC.

    It can be like s3:

    How can I access the object storage?
    Our object storage is accessible through our console for simple operations. We provide an >S3-compatible API for programatic accesses or for usage with any S3 compatible software.

    >

    Check out the APIs documentation and explore the full API reference

    Source: https://www.scaleway.com/faq/storage

  • The same, I just deleted the server I had while in beta and see no point creating new one, given all the details already mentioned on the thread.

  • RA4WRA4W Member

    @creep said:
    and they said they are competing DigitalOcean price. what a great belated april fool.

    On DO 2 GB RAM is 20 USD
    On Scaleway 2 GB RAM is 11 USD

    Not competing you said.

  • Wable seems like a better option...

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  • earl said: Has a CPU Mark of 377.. it's lower than the n2800 (636) for comparison

    New kernel make better score. (700+)
    I make now new serverbear benchmark with 3.19.3-std #192 (latest) kernel.

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  • SnapeSnape Member

    "We provide 2000 IOPS (an IO is a 4K random read or write access) per 50GB chunk you buy. It means that if you buy a 150GB volume (3 chunks), you will get about 6000 IOPS (3x2000). To enjoy the performance of your volume, your application needs to use parallel IO. The total bandwidth of your volumes is limited to 120MB/s by the network link."

    Erm...

  • NomadNomad Member

    You can abuse the CPU, that's the only positive thing about this product I can think.

  • Well, from what I can tell, they're targeting a 6 month ROI. Not bad.

    Honestly, compared to offers of similar virtue (including quality), it's about half of what I'd expect it to be.

  • LOL, enterprise account 499€

  • Dedibox Kidechire was a better offer and 25% of price. I honestly expected Scaleway to be much cheaper than Kidechire concerning the fact this is ARM, so it can lure customers with those very small servers, to buy more powerful products in future by creating good impressions. In my opinion the price is way too high (but this is just my personal opinion).

  • RamiRami Member

    Too expensive :(

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  • 9.99€ for 200mbit/s unmetered is not bad, great for video streaming

  • @boernd said:
    9.99€ for 200mbit/s unmetered is not bad, great for video streaming

    Too slow IO

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  • Eww, ARM. Now I have to compile stuff too.

  • M66BM66B Veteran

    Lets see how the will price develop over a few months.

  • I have to agree that i am on the line for this. I think that it has a chance of being great if they also feel within the 7$ a month let idea and i wold be all over this at that price point. I think if they had better intergrations with there existing servers it would be great to scale up into there normal dedicated server line. I like there object storage. still need to benchmark it.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited April 2015

    I really want to like this but...

    Download speed from CacheFly: 70.8MB/s
    Download speed from Coloat, Atlanta GA: 3.93MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Dallas, TX: 2.59MB/s
    Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 1.47MB/s
    Download speed from i3d.net, Rotterdam, NL: 23.2MB/s
    Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 26.8MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Singapore: 1.48MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Seattle, WA: 2.37MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, San Jose, CA: 2.41MB/s
    Download speed from Softlayer, Washington, DC: 4.50MB/s

    I can do better. I don't want to say that. I want them to improve. But...right now...I can do better.

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  • SnapeSnape Member

    Jar, you got 214Mbps out of a 200Mbps connection, how much better do you want? /s

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran
    edited April 2015

    @Snape said:
    Jar, you got 214Mbps out of a 200Mbps connection, how much better do you want? /s

    Well, if I was only planning on visitors coming from NL I suppose I couldn't really ask for more :P

    Seriously though.... too many 10-20mbit results there for my $. It's cheap but, I can get better for less any day. I'd like them to make that a false statement, because I know they can.

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  • MikePTMikePT Moderator, Patron Provider, Veteran

    Not a really impressive offer from them, I'm not signing up for one.

  • Not good:

    root@scw-1a35bf:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
        Processor       : Marvell PJ4Bv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
        processor       : 0
        BogoMIPS        : 1332.01
    
        processor       : 1
        BogoMIPS        : 1332.01
    
        processor       : 2
        BogoMIPS        : 1332.01
    
        processor       : 3
        BogoMIPS        : 1332.01
    
        Features        : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp vfpv3 tls
        CPU implementer : 0x56
        CPU architecture: 7
        CPU variant     : 0x2
        CPU part        : 0x584
        CPU revision    : 2
    
        Hardware        : Online Labs C1
        Revision        : 0000
        Serial          : 0000000000000000
    
    root@scw-1a35bf:~# cat /proc/meminfo
        MemTotal:        2072364 kB
        MemFree:         1961792 kB
        Buffers:           37188 kB
        Cached:            38756 kB
        SwapCached:            0 kB
        Active:            44032 kB
        Inactive:          39864 kB
        Active(anon):       7980 kB
        Inactive(anon):     1456 kB
        Active(file):      36052 kB
        Inactive(file):    38408 kB
        Unevictable:           0 kB
        Mlocked:               0 kB
        HighTotal:       1269756 kB
        HighFree:        1221272 kB
        LowTotal:         802608 kB
        LowFree:          740520 kB
        SwapTotal:             0 kB
        SwapFree:              0 kB
        Dirty:                 0 kB
        Writeback:             0 kB
        AnonPages:          7988 kB
        Mapped:             5020 kB
        Shmem:              1480 kB
        Slab:              19068 kB
        SReclaimable:       4740 kB
        SUnreclaim:        14328 kB
        KernelStack:         560 kB
        PageTables:          272 kB
        NFS_Unstable:          0 kB
        Bounce:                0 kB
        WritebackTmp:          0 kB
        CommitLimit:     1036180 kB
        Committed_AS:      46508 kB
        VmallocTotal:     122880 kB
        VmallocUsed:         200 kB
        VmallocChunk:     122664 kB
    
    root@scw-1a35bf:~# dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -rf test
        16384+0 records in
        16384+0 records out
        1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 11.5615 s, 92.9 MB/s
    
    root@scw-1a35bf:~# wget cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test -O /dev/null
        --2015-04-02 21:54:25--  http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
        Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net (cachefly.cachefly.net)... 62.210.187.96
        Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net (cachefly.cachefly.net)|62.210.187.96|:80... connected.
        HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
        Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
        Saving to: ‘/dev/null’
    
        100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 78.2MB/s   in 1.3s
    
        2015-04-02 21:54:26 (78.2 MB/s) - ‘/dev/null’ saved [104857600/104857600]
    
    
    root@scw-1a35bf:~# wget freevps.us/downloads/bench.sh -O - -o /dev/null|bash
        CPU model :
        Number of cores :
        CPU frequency :  MHz
        Total amount of ram : 2023 MB
        Total amount of swap : 0 MB
        System uptime :   7:15,
        Download speed from CacheFly: 70.5MB/s
        Download speed from Coloat, Atlanta GA: 1.80MB/s
        Download speed from Softlayer, Dallas, TX: 2.79MB/s
        Download speed from Linode, Tokyo, JP: 1.40MB/s
        Download speed from i3d.net, Rotterdam, NL: 24.1MB/s
        Download speed from Leaseweb, Haarlem, NL: 24.4MB/s
        Download speed from Softlayer, Singapore: 1.47MB/s
        Download speed from Softlayer, Seattle, WA: 2.39MB/s
        Download speed from Softlayer, San Jose, CA: 2.27MB/s
        Download speed from Softlayer, Washington, DC: 3.16MB/s
        I/O speed :  94.4 MB/s
        root@scw-1a35bf:~#
    
  • maybe we're being trolled? they did launch this on april fools didnt they

  • The storage is rather attractive.

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