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Do you disable "AdBlock" (or similar) on LET/LEB/WHT/VPSB?

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  • I'm fairly sure those ~15 or so services with 1x1 pixels here would be able to tell LET who is adblocking and who isn't.

  • chrispchrisp Member
    edited February 2015

    @wych said:
    Yep, no ads is great till you need to see them for any reason for your marketing job.

    I'm also in marketing and I have no AdBlocker enabled at work of course. I often wonder about the argument, that blocking ads is stealing money or something. If I wouldn't click the ads it's not going to make money anyway. Isn't it the same with TV ads? I could just switch channels or decide to stop the program and later skip the whole ad block.

    Earlier I never used adblockers and when I reinstall fresh systems I often forget to install Adblockers. But very quick they remind me why I should. Because sites take ages to load when there are 6 site tracking javascripts and 3 ad marketers loading their bloated javascripts, flash and pictures. And because the fan of my notebook makes noise when it's normally calm. Also the guy who first used video ads, that make sound, should be shot in the head.

    Sorry, ads are just too damn intrusive and bring too many disadvantages. Not willing to give that world up. I do whitelist good sites (some news sites) by the way and also I do order my stuff from Amazon via affiliate links from podcasters, bloggers or forums, that I support intentionally.

  • souensouen Member
    edited February 2015

    End user here. Ad blocking enabled on PC, the ad blocker on Firefox mobile doesn't block LET/LEB/etc. ads by default and I've left it that way. Generally, if the ads were less intrusive (visually and more privacy-friendly) I wouldn't mind seeing them. A few sites I've whitelisted when there's a message on the site asking nicely. In the past a lot of ads had cookies that tracked visitors across sites. The Flash-based ones used to send my laptop fan on overdrive with the CPU usage, which eventually led to my using ad blockers.

    What I don't really like about LET ads:

    • Animated - the movement is distracting, trying to my attention back to them when I've already seen it. If I'm interested, I would've clicked them the first or second time
    • Multiples of the same ad, same graphic, same general area - repetitive and dull, when I might potentially be interested in a variety of offers
    • Unappealing graphics - this is very subjective and not something that LET could necessarily do something about. A few of them are ugly (jarring colours and fonts), not very informative and don't represent the provider's branding. If the provider cannot invest a little in visual identity, it gives the impression that their services must be just as half-baked

    What I do like:

    • Square format, position in the sidebar - less intrusive, consistent positioning. If there's a new ad it might catch my attention as I scroll (much preferred to banner ads injected between posts that some forums do)
    • The good ads list out the plan specs, main features with price or best-selling point(s).
      I've clicked on ones even when not interested in the featured plan, just to see other offerings from the provider (same location, less/more RAM, shared hosting, etc.)
  • PwnerPwner Member
    edited February 2015

    Do people really even click on ads these days? I mean, I understand there will always be the few, but I don't know if most people bother to care about ads anymore.

  • Yes. That's why Google generates so much revenue. It's cost per click and they're good at putting relevant ads in front of users.

  • trewqtrewq Administrator, Patron Provider

    @nexusrain said:
    Where do you know from you're not missing anything, if you don't know which ad would be there?

    I've been on here for a fair while now, it's just the same ads rotating.

  • UltraParanoidUltraParanoid Member
    edited February 2015

    Block all the ads. Always.

    Have NoScript + Ghostery in Firefox and third party cookies are always blocked.
    And connection goes always throught my own personal VPN servers with ads/malware filtering on.

    Why?
    Simply because Im tired of tracking and potential malware and other crab that they try to push into my computer (of course I have anti-virus but still there is always possibility for slip). In the 90s you had to worry of few stupid pop-up windows. Nowadays it's a lot worse.

    Need examples?

    Just check yahoo ads malware case from last year (http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/malware/319413-bad-ads-on-yahoo-infected-thousands-of-users-with-malware)

    Or how about huffington post and others who ads got infected with malware?
    http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/08/technology/security/malvertising-huffington-post/

    Or this one, involving DoubleClick (Google owned)
    https://blog.malwarebytes.org/malvertising-2/2014/09/large-malvertising-campaign-under-way-involving-doubleclick-and-zedo/

    And then there was that resent case where damn advertising company exploiting Verizon "cookie" (actually http header that Verizon added to every customer connection unless it was encrypted) to track them .....

    Edit: Also some programs (like uTorrent) have started lately offering damn ads.

    Luckily, I can block them too automatically with my ads/malware filtering setup (squid proxy in VPS with big blocklist).

    Thanked by 3Mark_R 4n0nx Cakey
  • @trewq said:
    I've been on here for a fair while now, it's just the same ads rotating.

    Not possible. Some providers which are advertising here are new..

  • trewqtrewq Administrator, Patron Provider

    @nexusrain said:

    Just unblocked them to have a look and I've seen them all before. Either on lowendbox or in the offers section here.

  • @trewq said:
    Just unblocked them to have a look and I've seen them all before. Either on lowendbox or in the offers section here.

    Alright, alright.. :p

  • DylanDylan Member
    edited February 2015

    @Silvenga said:
    If these sites need to ask for us to download advertisements (wasting our own bandwidth and processing power), maybe they need to choose a better business model. This whole thing about blocking data that you don't want to see as being unethical is stupid.

    I never said it was unethical. I said it hurts sites, which is a point of fact.

    Pwner said: Do people really even click on ads these days? I mean, I understand there will always be the few, but I don't know if most people bother to care about ads anymore.

    Large sites (like the aforementioned Ars Technica) are paid per view, not per click. I think a lot of people don't realize that and assume that blocking ads they wouldn't click anyways doesn't make a difference.

  • I never disable my adblock as I cannot handle ads, which is why I never release anything for pay or use ads on my own sites where I've been offered a couple of grands to sell out my users.

    I'd rather have my users see a clean page rather than live on ads.
    It just ruins the whole layout in my opinion, but there's no real adblock for android out dns blocking so yea I kinda look at ads on LET when I'm on my mobile I guess.

  • Bitmap said: AdBlocker just parses the page after the fact.

    Depends on the blocker. Chrome for example has hooks to halt the request before it even gets sent.

  • Lets see. For LET/LEB I will never disable adblocker and I can tell you that I have NEVER purchased a service off this site because of an ad. In fact, for a site like this which has a specific commercial interest in the ads because ColoCrossing is a bunch of greedy bastards, I purposely do not buy based on ads as I put no trust in ColoCrossing to actually care what products they are advertising further than how much money it will put in their pocket. So, I will not directly trust anything endorsed through their ads. An ad on the site implies support of the product by the site owner generally as they are the ones making money from the ads, therefore I don't trust their suggestions as far as I can spit as they tend to support some less scrupulous businesses. A good example of this is their continued support for brands such as CVPS, GVH, UGvps, and other shill companies in the ColoCrossing network even though they know the products being sold are utter crap. The only way I will buy from someone on this site is to do my own research and come to the conclusion through reading reviews and seeing other peoples experiences whether or not it is a worthy investment of my time and money.

    For Vpsboard, while their motives are a bit more pure, any company that is worth their salt and has reasonable reviews I already look to do business with anyways. I don't per se mind the ads, but at the same time they have no influence on what I am going to purchase and simply make page loads longer. So, most of the time I block ads there as well.

    Ads only really attract the people that have very little experience in the niche and don't know who to choose, so they look at the pretty pictures and go, "Well maybe this one is good." To be honest, if you are a good host and provide a product of value, you shouldn't need the ads to sell your product, your product and word of mouth should do most of the sales for you. The ones who have to rely on these goofy ads to sell their products and pay their bills are probably not doing something right to begin with and will likely go out a business in short stead.

    TL; DR: No, I do not disable adblock. This is especially true on LEB/LET as I do not find the ads of any value and, if anything, are honeypots for the inexperienced users who see a cheap price and buy without reviewing said company, then a short time later they come back and open a thread about how poor the service is, etc. Other sites I may consider turning off adblock, but as @perennate stated it is easier to just leave it blocked than to take the time to disable it.

    my 2 cents.

    Cheers!

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    Dylan said: Large sites (like the aforementioned Ars Technica) are paid per view, not per click. I think a lot of people don't realize that and assume that blocking ads they wouldn't click anyways doesn't make a difference.

    I was under the impression that pay per view was a fraction of the pay per click. In other words, they get a small amount per ad impression, but a lot more if someone actually clicks on it.

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  • How can people browse porn without adblock? Popups everywhere.

  • @taronyu said:
    How can people browse porn without adblock? Popups everywhere.

    that is definitly a problem

  • No, they are annoying is all I have to say. Wait, LET has ads? I never knew that!

  • ItsChrisG said: Oh, and if you vote, can you explain your reasoning? (especially if its a No vote)

    Yes. I like bananas. Yesterday I bought a dozen.

  • As of lately, I disabled ad blocker at LET/LEB sites.

    Mostly, I keep it enabled. If a site owner tries to tell me something like "You're stealing from us by not allowing to display ads..." etc, it's the last time I visited their site. They aren't just that unique to tolerate such statements from them.

  • mikhomikho Member, Host Rep

    There are available ad spots if anyone is interrested.
    Amount of ads as dropped a bit over tje years. Remember when there was this huge waiting list.

  • HostAxaHostAxa Member
    edited February 2015

    @eddynetweb said:

    haha me too!

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