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  • Mark_RMark_R Member

    @neroux said:
    Even then, the authorities can simply go the other way round. Once they determined you are going through a particular server and managed to get the necessary access they simply filter the outgoing traffic.

    setup a VPN-chain, forwarding data through multiple servers (perhaps using extra tunneling.)

  • nerouxneroux Member

    Mark_R said: setup a VPN-chain, forwarding data through multiple servers (perhaps using extra tunneling.)

    Or simply use TOR (performance-wise it might be similar).

    But again, I'd like to know the use-case for such "elevated" privacy.

  • rds100rds100 Member

    Most people (me included) are not worried that a foreign government might spy on them.
    Also most people are not worried that the authorities in their own country are going to spy on them, with a proper warrant.
    However many people don't trust their governments and might be worried that the government might spy on them without a proper warrant, etc. This is what a VPN is useful for.

  • nerouxneroux Member

    rds100 said: However many people don't trust their governments and might be worried that the government might spy on them without a proper warrant, etc. This is what a VPN is useful for.

    Everyone to their liking, but I wonder how much of these concerns is just simple paranoia. Again, I am not in the position to tell somebody not to use it. Just if it is reasonable is certainly a different story.

  • Mark_RMark_R Member

    @neroux said:
    But again, I'd like to know the use-case for such "elevated" privacy.

    Protection of privacy is just really important these days and every person takes that privacy level to what he feels comfortable with. Ofcourse a higher privacy level could mean that there is going to be alot less legit traffic going through but this also could be the case with people who aren't tech-savvy and get busted later on because they didn't care about securing themselves enough or didn't know how to accomplish that.

  • nerouxneroux Member

    Mark_R said: Protection of privacy is just really important these days and every person takes that privacy level to what he feels comfortable with. Ofcourse a higher privacy level could mean that there is going to be alot less legit traffic going through but this also could be the case with people who aren't tech-savvy and get busted later on because they didn't care about securing themselves enough or didn't know how to accomplish that.

    I dont argue the importance of privacy, I argue the reasonableness of going through a cascade of VPNs located throughout the world so that Average Joe can securely and privately view his friends' Facebook statuses.

  • Mark_RMark_R Member

    @neroux said:
    I dont argue the importance of privacy, I argue the reasonableness of going through a cascade of VPNs located throughout the world so that Average Joe can securely and privately view his friends' Facebook statuses.

    I think that you are trying to find a justification for using a VPN in general. I wish I could, but, I cannot give such justification. It always remains negatives VS positives, it is all about morals/ethics of the person behind the vpn, you cannot question or blame the technology in my opinion, it is just a tool to accomplish your goal whenever that might be for good or bad purposes.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited June 2014

    neroux said: Couldn't the hosting provider where you setup that VPN see what you are doing on their routers?

    Precisely.

    That's why you tunnel to a location the government and ISPs of which you trust more than you trust your local government and ISPs. Trust rarely can be absolute, but it can certainly be measured in categories of "less" and "more".

    Mark_R said: trying to find a justification for using a VPN in general. I wish I could, but, I cannot give such justification.

    Well maybe you just don't live in a country which censors extremist and terrorist content such as pictures of naked women or certain torrent tracker websites.

  • Mark_RMark_R Member
    edited June 2014

    @rm_ said:
    Well maybe you just don't live in a country which censors extremist and terrorist content such as pictures of naked women or certain torrent tracker websites.

    that part of text that you've quoted is supposted to blend in with the other stuff that I wrote in that post, don't seperate it.

    regarding censor extremists, yes you're right. my country is pretty neutral in general (The Netherlands.) it makes me curious about what country you are living in though, the examples that you gave seem really extreme (I almost can't imagine it to be real.)

  • The point of encrypting the SDCard is to ensure your key cannot be compromised if for example the NSA somehow got physical access to your raspberry pi. But you are right, technically if they have physical access they can just hook to the router the Pi is connected to and monitor it that way. Still, I think for the average Joe they won't be able to do that. They also can't monitor the traffic out of the DC if it's in a place which still has privacy, or at least I hope they can't.

    The real issue is not how you could abuse your privacy, but just not to feel violated. I don't know about you guys, but knowing that somebody is spying on me 24/7, even if I am not doing anything wrong, gives me chills. And it's not paranoia when it was confirmed they are doing it.

  • rds100rds100 Member

    Encryption the SD card doesn't make any sense, since if it's encrypted the keys must be there, otherwise the OS can't boot.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran

    Mark_R said: the examples that you gave seem really extreme

    My examples were

    rm_ said: as pictures of naked women

    Censorship of porn in the UK http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-03/15/government-web-censorship
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_United_Kingdom

    or certain torrent tracker websites.

    Blocking of ThePirateBay in many countries worldwide.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_blocking_access_to_The_Pirate_Bay

    In general, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_by_country

    Thanked by 1Mark_R
  • Mark_RMark_R Member
    edited June 2014

    @rm_ said:

    I mainly was suprised about them blocking normal porn, in what year are we living again? lol.

  • @Mark_R said:
    in what year are we living again?

    Rightwing-conservatives all around the world are working very hard to lead humanity into a supercool future that ...resembles the 1930s, the 1950s and the middle ages. Be grateful! They only want our best! ;)

    BTT: I guess if you ask small hosters directly, a few of them would just put a single raspi in the rack somewhere and hook it up to the switch, even if they don't advertise it. I just guess that most haven't thought about it yet, or don't want to make it an officiall product that is covered by ther standard SLA, integrated into their billig system etc.

  • nerouxneroux Member

    To address the OP's question again, https://best-hosting.cz/en/raspberry-hosting offers hosting in the Czech Republic (admittedly not the US, as asked for).

  • dnwk - we made a proposal for this about 6 months ago and even built a sample rack of Raspberry Pi's the problem came that there is just not enough demand in the US to make the product fly.

  • chrispchrisp Member

    @SwordfishBE said:
    In Belgium: https://www.fusa.be/nl/hosting/special_colocation 1,50 Euro + VAT / month

    Very bad i tried to order this and was about to pay and send the PI to them. To be sure everything is fine I asked them what to do next and they said services are only valid for people with a belgian address. So, maybe for people in Belgium this is great, but for the others it's not.

  • nerouxneroux Member

    @chrisp said:
    Very bad i tried to order this and was about to pay and send the PI to them. To be sure everything is fine I asked them what to do next and they said services are only valid for people with a belgian address. So, maybe for people in Belgium this is great, but for the others it's not.

    Yes, they only cater to the Benelux market.

  • chrispchrisp Member
    edited July 2014

    @neroux said:
    Yes, they only cater to the Benelux market.

    And I thought Tim was cool. So any more locations for a RPI then? :)

    Keep it coming guys, we have some offers from several countries already, although some of them are rather expensive or somewhat limitated (for example the Fusa offer, which is only for Benelux)

    AT - Edis - http://www.edis.at/en/server/colocation/austria/

    BG - FitVPS - https://www.fitvps.com/p/35

    US - BitAccel - @Corey

    NL - PCExreme - http://raspberrycolocation.com/

    CH(or UK?) - Kryutek - https://kryutek.co.uk/plans

    BE - Fusa - https://www.fusa.be/nl/hosting/special_colocation

    US - Shovehost - @shovenose

    CZ - Best Hosting - https://best-hosting.cz/en/raspberry-hosting

    More! :)

  • AutoSnipeAutoSnipe Member
    edited July 2014

    CZ- FinalHosting (also have CubieBoards) - http://finalhosting.cz

    SE - FSData (Stopped at current though) - http://fsdata.se

  • nerouxneroux Member
    edited July 2014

    AutoSnipe said: CZ- FinalHosting (also have CubieBoards) - http://finalhosting.cz

    They dont colocate though. Just like fitvps only leases hardware.

    AutoSnipe said: SE - FSData

    Seems to cater only to the Swedish market as well.

  • chrispchrisp Member

    -> https://fsdata.se/server/raspberry-pi-colocation/

    you have to be swedish though

  • We only offer leasing hardware too. This is required because the webreset/reinstall system use the P6 pins on the pi.

    Working on new pis. A board (1he) with 32 pis require a few hours for installation and tests. :)

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    @fileMEDIA said:
    We only offer leasing hardware too. This is required because the webreset/reinstall system use the P6 pins on the pi.

    Working on new pis. A board (1he) with 32 pis require a few hours for installation and tests. :)

    Exactly my thoughts, glad someone is making it real :D

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    @netomx said:

    Exactly my thoughts, glad someone is making it real :D

    btw, you can use a NPN instead, will be smaller :)

  • rds100rds100 Member

    @fileMEDIA who made those web resetters for you? We can make better ones (and probably cheaper too) for you. If you are interested, PM me.

  • We are working on a project to power unmodified PI's over POE, we should be able to do this without any modifications to the device. This will allow powercycles to be done quickly and remotely by powering the port off and back on, and allow us to connect to redundant power :) I have most of a cabinet set aside for this idea if it pans out and there is enough interest. Pricing will be around $40-$50 a month, and will include NAS storage :)

  • Webresetters are custom made :) Solid state relays or cheap normal relays. We using a commercial system for triggering the relais over ethernet and a custom made java application server for the rest api. A reset port costs around 50 cents.

    We using this system also for all of our servers when ipmi or ilo requires a hard reset.

    This master controls up to 256 reset ports or power switches:

  • @cncking2000 - we built a very high density rack of RPIs a few months back. All POE but there was no uptake to turn it into a service so it was abandoned

  • @MarkTurner - I noted your comment earlier in this thread regarding the Pi. Why do you believe this is? Lack of US interest? The pi-colo seems to be popular in Europe, and there is enough people inquiring here and WHT to make it seem like a good idea, I'd like to hear your experience in detail further, either here or via PM if your not keen on public dissemination of information.

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