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VSYS Host: UA data centers. What happened and where recovery stands?

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  • LeviLevi Veteran

    @nexlimited said: I also heard that they access to their customers servers for no reason or one of their employees and steal customer data or informations.

    Go away troll. FUD is not tolerated here.

  • @JohnFilch123 said:

    @nexlimited said: I also heard

    I heard that cows fly sometimes, which is very worrying tbh

    Just read here, so simple:
    https://www.trustpilot.com/review/alexhost.com

  • zedzed Veteran

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @nexlimited said: I also heard

    I heard that cows fly sometimes, which is very worrying tbh

    this is ridiculous, perhaps you meant pigs.

  • I love all these critical servers with no real time back up

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  • @Levi said:
    For vsys business in Ukraine is over. They know that. There is no guarantee that new attack won’t destroy new data center or electrical / network infra. Unless they transfer whole business outside Ukraine - they are not relible provider. A very sad, but true situation.

    Doesn't have to be a death sentence. Some people want servers in Ukraine and can tolerate a chance they break. The invasion's been happening for 4.5 years and this is the first time vsys got hit.

  • LeviLevi Veteran
    edited September 29

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:

    @Levi said:
    For vsys business in Ukraine is over. They know that. There is no guarantee that new attack won’t destroy new data center or electrical / network infra. Unless they transfer whole business outside Ukraine - they are not relible provider. A very sad, but true situation.

    Doesn't have to be a death sentence. Some people want servers in Ukraine and can tolerate a chance they break. The invasion's been happening for 4.5 years and this is the first time vsys got hit.

    Hit targets differ as war progress. It seems ru targets even more civilian infrastructure such as gas stations, datacenters.

    Of course there is those who don’t bother to care, but vsys charges substantial amount of money for their services. I fail to see trade off here.

  • Slava Ukraini! I hope you get it solved soon. Good to hear that everyone is safe.

  • MikeAMikeA Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited September 29

    You guys shouldn't fault people for using VSYS (or any other UA host). If you use a company for a long time, and the country the company is in is being attacked, most people probably wouldn't leave if they're satisfied with the company. Imagine if every client cancelled when UA was attacked? Every host would be out of business. So if anything you'd probably prefer to use them to support them. Despite the years of Russia attacking civilians, they only recently started attacking private datacenters. This is why backups are important.. (and a recovery plan)

    Anyway, hopefully nobody has any important data hosted in datacenters in Moscow.

  • @lirrr said:
    I love all these critical servers with no real time back up

    Hehe
    image

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  • fatchanfatchan Member, Host Rep

    @nexlimited said:

    @fatchan said:
    Always knew the underground bunker datacenter from Alexhost wasn't a meme :sweat_smile:

    For those looking for DMCA ignored, they're a nearby option (Moldova), but more expensive.

    Very unfortunate situation here, I wish all the best to Vsys.

    Their infrastructure is bad af. I also heard that they access to their customers servers for no reason or one of their employees and steal customer data or informations. lol

    Thanked by 1sillycat
  • When will you start respecting your customers by replying to their tickets and providing regular updates, as any professional company should?

    You post an update every five days and leave your customers completely in the dark, without properly considering the difficult situation they are facing.

    What is even more concerning is that, despite the fact that the issue is on your side, you still force us to wait for the Sales Department and only during business hours.

    Do you really consider this an acceptable level of respect toward your customers?

    Thanked by 2viper877 Hondura
  • @psyco23 said:
    When will you start respecting your customers by replying to their tickets and providing regular updates, as any professional company should?

    You post an update every five days and leave your customers completely in the dark, without properly considering the difficult situation they are facing.

    What is even more concerning is that, despite the fact that the issue is on your side, you still force us to wait for the Sales Department and only during business hours.

    Do you really consider this an acceptable level of respect toward your customers?

    I also find it outrageous that they can't stand by the situation and release updates. Other data centers already have their new facilities up and running, whereas vSys just keeps sending automated ticket responses. Some people are told it will be ready in a few weeks, others hear it will take a month, and some customers get no information at all—so how are we supposed to react? Without an official update, we’re just left with more questions about their service.

  • The MJJs here are amazing.

  • edited September 30

    Both the service and the efficiency are the worst.

  • Ni Hao!

    Thanked by 1sillycat
  • They updated their webpage yesterday, stating that users could submit a support ticket if they needed access to their data. However, after I submitted a ticket, their reply was identical to the one from the 26th: once a new data center is secured, they will develop a procedure to allow users to back up their data. When I asked for an estimated timeframe, the response was that there is no estimate. Consequently, I have given up hope and am currently rebuilding my business on a different server using a backup from August.

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • LeviLevi Veteran

    The audacity and self-entitlement is insane!

    Thanked by 1sillycat
  • forestforest Member
    edited September 30

    @Levi said:
    The audacity and self-entitlement is insane!

    VSYS:

    boom

    Meanwhile, MJJs:

    mjj1
    mjj2
    mjj3

  • @vsys_host said:
    Hi everyone,

    Many of you have been affected by the outage in Kyiv or have seen it discussed here, so we want to give you a clear picture of what happened and where recovery stands.

    What happened

    On September 23, the first Russian missile strike hit one of data centers. A few hours later, the second one was hit, and then hit again. Both are now out of operation for an indefinite period.

    These were not isolated hits. The strikes also affected other data centers where we have no equipment. This was a wider attack on data center infrastructure.

    Condition of the equipment

    In the first hours we had no physical access to our hardware and could only rely on information from the data center teams. Once our engineers reached the sites:

    • In data center 1, 100% of our equipment is physically intact.
    • In data center 2, our equipment also survived, but some hardware shows signs of water exposure. These servers need to be inspected before they can be powered on, otherwise recoverable hardware could be damaged.

    Virtual services

    Rather than waiting for the original facilities to reopen, we moved our virtual infrastructure to another data center selected for its security profile. The majority of affected virtual services are already running there.

    Work on the rest continues, and we expect 100% of them to be restored within the nearest few days.

    Dedicated servers

    This is the harder part. Dedicated servers are the hardware itself, so they have to be physically moved to another facility before they can run again, and we're talking about a very large fleet.

    The new facility needs enough space, power, cooling, connectivity and staff to take this volume. It also must not carry an unacceptable risk of a missile strike. We won't move customer infrastructure to the first facility that happens to have space.

    We haven't secured such a facility yet, so there is no ETA for dedicated server restoration. We'd rather not give a date we can't stand behind. Once a facility is confirmed, servers will be relocated and restored progressively.

    In parallel, we're working on a way for customers to copy their data from dedicated servers before full restoration. We'll contact affected customers directly once a workable process is ready.

    Other locations

    VSYS Host is fully operational. Support is available, and our locations outside Ukraine are running normally. We're seeing a lot of migration requests, so some dedicated configurations outside Ukraine may soon be temporarily out of stock. If you're planning to move, open a ticket and we'll check what's available.

    Full incident report: https://vsys.host/news/two-kyiv-data-centers-hit-within-hours-incident-report-and-recovery-status

    We'll keep this thread updated as things progress. Happy to answer general questions here.

    Thank you to everyone who has been patient with us.

    We've been working through these days without a break to bring everything back, and we'll keep going until every service is restored.

    Thank you for your patience, your support, and every kind word we've received. It means a lot to us right now.

    **What did you start this thread for? **
    There’s no news, and some customers are being ignored—there’s no ETA.

    Their website says they’ve been around since 2009; how does a company that’s been in business for nearly 20 years fail to release any updates?

  • @Hondura said:

    @vsys_host said:
    Hi everyone,

    Many of you have been affected by the outage in Kyiv or have seen it discussed here, so we want to give you a clear picture of what happened and where recovery stands.

    What happened

    On September 23, the first Russian missile strike hit one of data centers. A few hours later, the second one was hit, and then hit again. Both are now out of operation for an indefinite period.

    These were not isolated hits. The strikes also affected other data centers where we have no equipment. This was a wider attack on data center infrastructure.

    Condition of the equipment

    In the first hours we had no physical access to our hardware and could only rely on information from the data center teams. Once our engineers reached the sites:

    • In data center 1, 100% of our equipment is physically intact.
    • In data center 2, our equipment also survived, but some hardware shows signs of water exposure. These servers need to be inspected before they can be powered on, otherwise recoverable hardware could be damaged.

    Virtual services

    Rather than waiting for the original facilities to reopen, we moved our virtual infrastructure to another data center selected for its security profile. The majority of affected virtual services are already running there.

    Work on the rest continues, and we expect 100% of them to be restored within the nearest few days.

    Dedicated servers

    This is the harder part. Dedicated servers are the hardware itself, so they have to be physically moved to another facility before they can run again, and we're talking about a very large fleet.

    The new facility needs enough space, power, cooling, connectivity and staff to take this volume. It also must not carry an unacceptable risk of a missile strike. We won't move customer infrastructure to the first facility that happens to have space.

    We haven't secured such a facility yet, so there is no ETA for dedicated server restoration. We'd rather not give a date we can't stand behind. Once a facility is confirmed, servers will be relocated and restored progressively.

    In parallel, we're working on a way for customers to copy their data from dedicated servers before full restoration. We'll contact affected customers directly once a workable process is ready.

    Other locations

    VSYS Host is fully operational. Support is available, and our locations outside Ukraine are running normally. We're seeing a lot of migration requests, so some dedicated configurations outside Ukraine may soon be temporarily out of stock. If you're planning to move, open a ticket and we'll check what's available.

    Full incident report: https://vsys.host/news/two-kyiv-data-centers-hit-within-hours-incident-report-and-recovery-status

    We'll keep this thread updated as things progress. Happy to answer general questions here.

    Thank you to everyone who has been patient with us.

    We've been working through these days without a break to bring everything back, and we'll keep going until every service is restored.

    Thank you for your patience, your support, and every kind word we've received. It means a lot to us right now.

    **What did you start this thread for? **
    There’s no news, and some customers are being ignored—there’s no ETA.

    Their website says they’ve been around since 2009; how does a company that’s been in business for nearly 20 years fail to release any updates?

    THEY WERE HIT BY A DRONE STRIKE.

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  • @Hondura said: how does a company that’s been in business for nearly 20 years fail to release any updates?

    Idk man. Unless they were fucking bombed, they have no excuse. /s

  • rpqurpqu Member
    edited September 30

    @forest said:

    @Hondura said: how does a company that’s been in business for nearly 20 years fail to release any updates?

    Idk man. Unless they were fucking bombed, they have no excuse. /s

    Maybe they should utilize cope cage



    Should have add the mitigations

  • @deafcon said:

    @Hondura said:

    @vsys_host said:
    Hi everyone,

    Many of you have been affected by the outage in Kyiv or have seen it discussed here, so we want to give you a clear picture of what happened and where recovery stands.

    What happened

    On September 23, the first Russian missile strike hit one of data centers. A few hours later, the second one was hit, and then hit again. Both are now out of operation for an indefinite period.

    These were not isolated hits. The strikes also affected other data centers where we have no equipment. This was a wider attack on data center infrastructure.

    Condition of the equipment

    In the first hours we had no physical access to our hardware and could only rely on information from the data center teams. Once our engineers reached the sites:

    • In data center 1, 100% of our equipment is physically intact.
    • In data center 2, our equipment also survived, but some hardware shows signs of water exposure. These servers need to be inspected before they can be powered on, otherwise recoverable hardware could be damaged.

    Virtual services

    Rather than waiting for the original facilities to reopen, we moved our virtual infrastructure to another data center selected for its security profile. The majority of affected virtual services are already running there.

    Work on the rest continues, and we expect 100% of them to be restored within the nearest few days.

    Dedicated servers

    This is the harder part. Dedicated servers are the hardware itself, so they have to be physically moved to another facility before they can run again, and we're talking about a very large fleet.

    The new facility needs enough space, power, cooling, connectivity and staff to take this volume. It also must not carry an unacceptable risk of a missile strike. We won't move customer infrastructure to the first facility that happens to have space.

    We haven't secured such a facility yet, so there is no ETA for dedicated server restoration. We'd rather not give a date we can't stand behind. Once a facility is confirmed, servers will be relocated and restored progressively.

    In parallel, we're working on a way for customers to copy their data from dedicated servers before full restoration. We'll contact affected customers directly once a workable process is ready.

    Other locations

    VSYS Host is fully operational. Support is available, and our locations outside Ukraine are running normally. We're seeing a lot of migration requests, so some dedicated configurations outside Ukraine may soon be temporarily out of stock. If you're planning to move, open a ticket and we'll check what's available.

    Full incident report: https://vsys.host/news/two-kyiv-data-centers-hit-within-hours-incident-report-and-recovery-status

    We'll keep this thread updated as things progress. Happy to answer general questions here.

    Thank you to everyone who has been patient with us.

    We've been working through these days without a break to bring everything back, and we'll keep going until every service is restored.

    Thank you for your patience, your support, and every kind word we've received. It means a lot to us right now.

    **What did you start this thread for? **
    There’s no news, and some customers are being ignored—there’s no ETA.

    Their website says they’ve been around since 2009; how does a company that’s been in business for nearly 20 years fail to release any updates?

    THEY WERE HIT BY A DRONE STRIKE.

    Even a five-year-old knows they were bombed—so what? I’m asking for updates on what the other companies are doing so they don't leave their customers in the lurch.

  • For mjjs who can't and didn't read TOS.

    Their own Terms of Service clearly include a force majeure clause covering war and other events beyond their reasonable control.

    A missile strike would obviously fall into that category. I honestly don’t see what the provider could realistically have done to prevent or control something like that.

    Force Majeure:
    
    Virtual Systems shall not be held responsible for any delay or failure in performance of a Service or any part of this Agreement to the extent such delay or failure is caused by: fire; flood; earthquake; the elements; lightning; explosion; war; act of terrorism; strike; embargo; government requirement; civil or military authority; act of god or nature; inability to secure materials or transportation facilities; act or omission of carriers or suppliers (other than the Virtual Systems itself); acts or failures to act of any governmental authority; computer viruses or worms; DDOS attacks, DNS spoofing attacks and/or other hacking attacks; termination or temporary unavailability of any computer hardware or software, server, or network on which the Virtual Systems’ Services are located or maintained or through which the Virtual Systems’ Services are provided, and nonavailability of any permits, licenses and/or authorizations required by governmental authority or any other causes beyond its reasonable control.
    
  • Reading TOS? Naaaah, this is for normal people, I am MJJ, I only write complaints :lol:

  • @Hondura said:

    @deafcon said:

    @Hondura said:

    @vsys_host said:
    Hi everyone,

    Many of you have been affected by the outage in Kyiv or have seen it discussed here, so we want to give you a clear picture of what happened and where recovery stands.

    What happened

    On September 23, the first Russian missile strike hit one of data centers. A few hours later, the second one was hit, and then hit again. Both are now out of operation for an indefinite period.

    These were not isolated hits. The strikes also affected other data centers where we have no equipment. This was a wider attack on data center infrastructure.

    Condition of the equipment

    In the first hours we had no physical access to our hardware and could only rely on information from the data center teams. Once our engineers reached the sites:

    • In data center 1, 100% of our equipment is physically intact.
    • In data center 2, our equipment also survived, but some hardware shows signs of water exposure. These servers need to be inspected before they can be powered on, otherwise recoverable hardware could be damaged.

    Virtual services

    Rather than waiting for the original facilities to reopen, we moved our virtual infrastructure to another data center selected for its security profile. The majority of affected virtual services are already running there.

    Work on the rest continues, and we expect 100% of them to be restored within the nearest few days.

    Dedicated servers

    This is the harder part. Dedicated servers are the hardware itself, so they have to be physically moved to another facility before they can run again, and we're talking about a very large fleet.

    The new facility needs enough space, power, cooling, connectivity and staff to take this volume. It also must not carry an unacceptable risk of a missile strike. We won't move customer infrastructure to the first facility that happens to have space.

    We haven't secured such a facility yet, so there is no ETA for dedicated server restoration. We'd rather not give a date we can't stand behind. Once a facility is confirmed, servers will be relocated and restored progressively.

    In parallel, we're working on a way for customers to copy their data from dedicated servers before full restoration. We'll contact affected customers directly once a workable process is ready.

    Other locations

    VSYS Host is fully operational. Support is available, and our locations outside Ukraine are running normally. We're seeing a lot of migration requests, so some dedicated configurations outside Ukraine may soon be temporarily out of stock. If you're planning to move, open a ticket and we'll check what's available.

    Full incident report: https://vsys.host/news/two-kyiv-data-centers-hit-within-hours-incident-report-and-recovery-status

    We'll keep this thread updated as things progress. Happy to answer general questions here.

    Thank you to everyone who has been patient with us.

    We've been working through these days without a break to bring everything back, and we'll keep going until every service is restored.

    Thank you for your patience, your support, and every kind word we've received. It means a lot to us right now.

    **What did you start this thread for? **
    There’s no news, and some customers are being ignored—there’s no ETA.

    Their website says they’ve been around since 2009; how does a company that’s been in business for nearly 20 years fail to release any updates?

    THEY WERE HIT BY A DRONE STRIKE.

    Even a five-year-old knows they were bombed—so what? I’m asking for updates on what the other companies are doing so they don't leave their customers in the lurch.

    Activate your disaster recovery plan and let VSYS sort out their situation in an active war zone.

    Thanked by 1aj_potc
  • @Arirang said: explosion; war; act of terrorism

    Pretty well-covered there.

  • LeviLevi Veteran

    @Hondura said:

    @deafcon said:

    @Hondura said:

    @vsys_host said:
    Hi everyone,

    Many of you have been affected by the outage in Kyiv or have seen it discussed here, so we want to give you a clear picture of what happened and where recovery stands.

    What happened

    On September 23, the first Russian missile strike hit one of data centers. A few hours later, the second one was hit, and then hit again. Both are now out of operation for an indefinite period.

    These were not isolated hits. The strikes also affected other data centers where we have no equipment. This was a wider attack on data center infrastructure.

    Condition of the equipment

    In the first hours we had no physical access to our hardware and could only rely on information from the data center teams. Once our engineers reached the sites:

    • In data center 1, 100% of our equipment is physically intact.
    • In data center 2, our equipment also survived, but some hardware shows signs of water exposure. These servers need to be inspected before they can be powered on, otherwise recoverable hardware could be damaged.

    Virtual services

    Rather than waiting for the original facilities to reopen, we moved our virtual infrastructure to another data center selected for its security profile. The majority of affected virtual services are already running there.

    Work on the rest continues, and we expect 100% of them to be restored within the nearest few days.

    Dedicated servers

    This is the harder part. Dedicated servers are the hardware itself, so they have to be physically moved to another facility before they can run again, and we're talking about a very large fleet.

    The new facility needs enough space, power, cooling, connectivity and staff to take this volume. It also must not carry an unacceptable risk of a missile strike. We won't move customer infrastructure to the first facility that happens to have space.

    We haven't secured such a facility yet, so there is no ETA for dedicated server restoration. We'd rather not give a date we can't stand behind. Once a facility is confirmed, servers will be relocated and restored progressively.

    In parallel, we're working on a way for customers to copy their data from dedicated servers before full restoration. We'll contact affected customers directly once a workable process is ready.

    Other locations

    VSYS Host is fully operational. Support is available, and our locations outside Ukraine are running normally. We're seeing a lot of migration requests, so some dedicated configurations outside Ukraine may soon be temporarily out of stock. If you're planning to move, open a ticket and we'll check what's available.

    Full incident report: https://vsys.host/news/two-kyiv-data-centers-hit-within-hours-incident-report-and-recovery-status

    We'll keep this thread updated as things progress. Happy to answer general questions here.

    Thank you to everyone who has been patient with us.

    We've been working through these days without a break to bring everything back, and we'll keep going until every service is restored.

    Thank you for your patience, your support, and every kind word we've received. It means a lot to us right now.

    **What did you start this thread for? **
    There’s no news, and some customers are being ignored—there’s no ETA.

    Their website says they’ve been around since 2009; how does a company that’s been in business for nearly 20 years fail to release any updates?

    THEY WERE HIT BY A DRONE STRIKE.

    Even a five-year-old knows they were bombed—so what? I’m asking for updates on what the other companies are doing so they don't leave their customers in the lurch.

    Update 1: We have been bombed.
    Update 2: Ruins everywhere, lot of water from firefighting. Servers to be seen.
    Update 3: Still water and ruins, no sign of servers.
    Update 4: Still water and ruins, no sign of servers.
    Update 5: Still water and ruins, no sign of servers.
    Update 6: Still water and ruins, no sign of servers.
    Update 69: Water evaporated, ruins still in place. No servers.
    Update 169: Some metal sheets from servers emerge out of ruins. We should be able to assemble few servers from 20 server parts. We are bringing up diesel generators and solar panels, thought, there is little sun in autumn.
    Update X: To be continued...

  • @Levi said:

    @Hondura said:

    @deafcon said:

    @Hondura said:

    @vsys_host said:
    Hi everyone,

    Many of you have been affected by the outage in Kyiv or have seen it discussed here, so we want to give you a clear picture of what happened and where recovery stands.

    What happened

    On September 23, the first Russian missile strike hit one of data centers. A few hours later, the second one was hit, and then hit again. Both are now out of operation for an indefinite period.

    These were not isolated hits. The strikes also affected other data centers where we have no equipment. This was a wider attack on data center infrastructure.

    Condition of the equipment

    In the first hours we had no physical access to our hardware and could only rely on information from the data center teams. Once our engineers reached the sites:

    • In data center 1, 100% of our equipment is physically intact.
    • In data center 2, our equipment also survived, but some hardware shows signs of water exposure. These servers need to be inspected before they can be powered on, otherwise recoverable hardware could be damaged.

    Virtual services

    Rather than waiting for the original facilities to reopen, we moved our virtual infrastructure to another data center selected for its security profile. The majority of affected virtual services are already running there.

    Work on the rest continues, and we expect 100% of them to be restored within the nearest few days.

    Dedicated servers

    This is the harder part. Dedicated servers are the hardware itself, so they have to be physically moved to another facility before they can run again, and we're talking about a very large fleet.

    The new facility needs enough space, power, cooling, connectivity and staff to take this volume. It also must not carry an unacceptable risk of a missile strike. We won't move customer infrastructure to the first facility that happens to have space.

    We haven't secured such a facility yet, so there is no ETA for dedicated server restoration. We'd rather not give a date we can't stand behind. Once a facility is confirmed, servers will be relocated and restored progressively.

    In parallel, we're working on a way for customers to copy their data from dedicated servers before full restoration. We'll contact affected customers directly once a workable process is ready.

    Other locations

    VSYS Host is fully operational. Support is available, and our locations outside Ukraine are running normally. We're seeing a lot of migration requests, so some dedicated configurations outside Ukraine may soon be temporarily out of stock. If you're planning to move, open a ticket and we'll check what's available.

    Full incident report: https://vsys.host/news/two-kyiv-data-centers-hit-within-hours-incident-report-and-recovery-status

    We'll keep this thread updated as things progress. Happy to answer general questions here.

    Thank you to everyone who has been patient with us.

    We've been working through these days without a break to bring everything back, and we'll keep going until every service is restored.

    Thank you for your patience, your support, and every kind word we've received. It means a lot to us right now.

    **What did you start this thread for? **
    There’s no news, and some customers are being ignored—there’s no ETA.

    Their website says they’ve been around since 2009; how does a company that’s been in business for nearly 20 years fail to release any updates?

    THEY WERE HIT BY A DRONE STRIKE.

    Even a five-year-old knows they were bombed—so what? I’m asking for updates on what the other companies are doing so they don't leave their customers in the lurch.

    Update 1: We have been bombed.
    Update 2: Ruins everywhere, lot of water from firefighting. Servers to be seen.
    Update 3: Still water and ruins, no sign of servers.
    Update 4: Still water and ruins, no sign of servers.
    Update 5: Still water and ruins, no sign of servers.
    Update 6: Still water and ruins, no sign of servers.
    Update 69: Water evaporated, ruins still in place. No servers.
    Update 169: Some metal sheets from servers emerge out of ruins. We should be able to assemble few servers from 20 server parts. We are bringing up diesel generators and solar panels, thought, there is little sun in autumn.
    Update X: To be continued...

    I think exactly the same thing—that the servers are destroyed. They’re just claiming it’s an inspection or something because they don’t want to admit outright that the servers—or rather, all the data—are gone.

  • The excuses offered above are truly laughable. If all providers were in the same boat, then there would be nothing to criticize. The problem is that other service providers have already restored their dedicated servers. So, do you really have any grounds left to make excuses? :D

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