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Big Corp VPS in Netherlands - Leaseweb?

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  • cloudblastcloudblast Member, Patron Provider

    We have some availability in NL at the moment.

    10 Gbps, DDoS Protection, Hourly Billing all comes as standard.

    https://cloudblast.io/

  • SKRIMESKRIME Member, Patron Provider

    Hey @drizbo,

    for 8c/24GB our EPYC Configurator in Eygelshoven, NL:

    • 8 Cores (AMD EPYC, Zen 3 Milan, ECC DDR4)
    • 24 GB RAM
    • 100 GB NVMe (RAID 1) - upgrade in configurator if needed
    • Unlimited traffic, 10 Gbps shared port
    • IPv4 + IPv6 /64, DDoS Protection
    • 23.09€/mo standard

    Or if you specifically want single-thread performance over EPYC cores, our RYZEN 16G is a strong alternative (AMD RYZEN 9950X @ 5.7 GHz, 4c/16GB DDR5/150GB): 18.99€/mo - or RYZEN 8G at 8.24€/mo on our current sale (10.99€, until 19.07.2026).

    Configurator: skri.me/epyc-config
    RYZEN 9950X: skri.me/ryzen9950X
    Looking Glass: skrime.eu/network / AS215365

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @cloudblast said:
    We have some availability in NL at the moment.

    10 Gbps, DDoS Protection, Hourly Billing all comes as standard.

    https://cloudblast.io/

    can you blast me with a 3/yr vps

    Thanked by 1oloke
  • @murathai said:

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    I got an server from them like 2 weeks ago, until now seems to be pretty good. B2B, I got accepted with no troubles.

    See benchmark here.

    as an individual?

    No, I got the server with my business details.

  • forestforest Member

    @HostDZire said:

    @jsg said:

    @nullnothere said:

    @JohnFilch123 said: Wording is indeed very broad.

    "relay network traffic" - so a (ssh) jumpbox would be a violation of their terms it seems.

    Tagging @HostDZire so that they can clarify what this very broad ToS is all about.

    I guess it's a strange mix of Indian laws/regulations, Leaseweb policies, misunderstanding, and unlucky wording.

    But yeah, good idea to tag @HostDZire for explanation/elaboration.

    Yes that's a global rule including india so it's more strict,

    We will soon apply some changes so it clarify a bit.

    Basically personal vpn is allowed in any vps even india ones, where when complaint comes you are the responsible person,

    Any vpn, proxy service where anyone else can use but not you then it's not allowed.
    Like offering vpn services to your client, public etc.

    But yes I will update TOS soon to clear confusion.

    Can you please make it explicit in the ToS that only "Tor exits" are prohibited, rather than all types of relays? Because only exits can be used to initiate traffic that results in complaints.

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider

    @forest said:

    @HostDZire said:

    @jsg said:

    @nullnothere said:

    @JohnFilch123 said: Wording is indeed very broad.

    "relay network traffic" - so a (ssh) jumpbox would be a violation of their terms it seems.

    Tagging @HostDZire so that they can clarify what this very broad ToS is all about.

    I guess it's a strange mix of Indian laws/regulations, Leaseweb policies, misunderstanding, and unlucky wording.

    But yeah, good idea to tag @HostDZire for explanation/elaboration.

    Yes that's a global rule including india so it's more strict,

    We will soon apply some changes so it clarify a bit.

    Basically personal vpn is allowed in any vps even india ones, where when complaint comes you are the responsible person,

    Any vpn, proxy service where anyone else can use but not you then it's not allowed.
    Like offering vpn services to your client, public etc.

    But yes I will update TOS soon to clear confusion.

    Can you please make it explicit in the ToS that only "Tor exits" are prohibited, rather than all types of relays? Because only exits can be used to initiate traffic that results in complaints.

    Yes we don't get complain if it's not exit node, but our ip can be used for illegal purposes isn't it it's in middle node ?

  • forestforest Member
    edited July 13

    @HostDZire said:

    @forest said:

    @HostDZire said:

    @jsg said:

    @nullnothere said:

    @JohnFilch123 said: Wording is indeed very broad.

    "relay network traffic" - so a (ssh) jumpbox would be a violation of their terms it seems.

    Tagging @HostDZire so that they can clarify what this very broad ToS is all about.

    I guess it's a strange mix of Indian laws/regulations, Leaseweb policies, misunderstanding, and unlucky wording.

    But yeah, good idea to tag @HostDZire for explanation/elaboration.

    Yes that's a global rule including india so it's more strict,

    We will soon apply some changes so it clarify a bit.

    Basically personal vpn is allowed in any vps even india ones, where when complaint comes you are the responsible person,

    Any vpn, proxy service where anyone else can use but not you then it's not allowed.
    Like offering vpn services to your client, public etc.

    But yes I will update TOS soon to clear confusion.

    Can you please make it explicit in the ToS that only "Tor exits" are prohibited, rather than all types of relays? Because only exits can be used to initiate traffic that results in complaints.

    Yes we don't get complain if it's not exit node, but our ip can be used for illegal purposes isn't it it's in middle node ?

    It can't be abused if it's a middle, only if it's an exit. A middle node is 100% internal to the Tor network and cannot be used to spam or abuse with your IPs.

    Here is an example of one of my exits (811 abuse reports): https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/23.137.105.248
    Here is an example of one of my middles (0 abuse reports): https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/45.141.119.159

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider

    @forest said:

    @HostDZire said:

    @forest said:

    @HostDZire said:

    @jsg said:

    @nullnothere said:

    @JohnFilch123 said: Wording is indeed very broad.

    "relay network traffic" - so a (ssh) jumpbox would be a violation of their terms it seems.

    Tagging @HostDZire so that they can clarify what this very broad ToS is all about.

    I guess it's a strange mix of Indian laws/regulations, Leaseweb policies, misunderstanding, and unlucky wording.

    But yeah, good idea to tag @HostDZire for explanation/elaboration.

    Yes that's a global rule including india so it's more strict,

    We will soon apply some changes so it clarify a bit.

    Basically personal vpn is allowed in any vps even india ones, where when complaint comes you are the responsible person,

    Any vpn, proxy service where anyone else can use but not you then it's not allowed.
    Like offering vpn services to your client, public etc.

    But yes I will update TOS soon to clear confusion.

    Can you please make it explicit in the ToS that only "Tor exits" are prohibited, rather than all types of relays? Because only exits can be used to initiate traffic that results in complaints.

    Yes we don't get complain if it's not exit node, but our ip can be used for illegal purposes isn't it it's in middle node ?

    It can't be abused if it's a middle, only if it's an exit. A middle node is 100% internal to the Tor network and cannot be used to spam or abuse with your IPs.

    Here is an example of one of my exits (811 abuse reports): https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/23.137.105.248
    Here is an example of one of my middles (0 abuse reports): https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/45.141.119.159

    India rules are tricky mate,
    They require KYC for all the IP's
    Specially if a IP is being used for VPN or similar activities,
    TOR is kind of vpn isnt ? it helps us to mask our own internet IP address.

    So we can get into trouble for this, gov can easily check if our IP is being used for TOR.
    If i dont understand TOR easily, imagine their understanding.

    They will think we allow illegal activities using our IP.

    So what we can do is split the TOS between plans.
    Because india has diff rules which is more strict.
    Rest other countries IP's are fine. we can manage there.

    Thanked by 3jsg forest tux
  • forestforest Member
    edited July 14

    @HostDZire said: TOR is kind of vpn isnt ? it helps us to mask our own internet IP address.

    So we can get into trouble for this, gov can easily check if our IP is being used for TOR.
    If i dont understand TOR easily, imagine their understanding.

    They will think we allow illegal activities using our IP.

    I think only a Tor exit would count, because only a Tor exit is relaying traffic to the outside world. There are other hosts in India that can run non-exits (but never exits) because illegal traffic is never going out of their IPs, so it should be fine.

  • @forest said: I think only a Tor exit would count, because only a Tor exit is relaying traffic to the outside world. There are other hosts in India that can run non-exits (but never exits), so it should be fine.

    it should be fine to host middle/bridge node as nobody would know.

    however, when gov realizes that such stuff is being done on certain IPs, they'll hammer it.

    anything that can anonymize or facilitate anonymization of IP or browsing activity is targetted.

    as per you, sure, they wouldnt know. but if an audit were to happen, hostdeeznuts would be in trouble.

  • forestforest Member
    edited July 14

    @Protocol903 said: it should be fine to host middle/bridge node as nobody would know.

    Middles are public but it's impossible to know what is being relayed through them.

    I guess a separate ToS for the India IPs is fair though, or simply "and in India, no ..." in the ToS.

  • drizbodrizbo Member
    edited July 14

    These leaseweb fags are unreal.

    I ordered VPS yesterday and they gladly took the money, now today I get email having to do "KYC" for my company LMAO.

    These dogs are asking for my company social network profiles for this small VPS lmao

    Actual comedians

    `Dear Sir/Madam, 
    
    Thank you for choosing Leaseweb as your hosting provider. 
    
    As part of our commitment to maintain high security and compliance standards, we require our customers to undergo the Leaseweb Know Your Customer (KYC) verification process. This process helps us ensure the integrity and safety of our services for all customers.  
    
    To complete the KYC verification process, please provide us with the following information/documents:  
    
    • Business/individual entrepreneur registration document 
    Official business registration in your jurisdiction which shows the company name and list of directors and shareholders. 
    
    • Proof of address document and address of operations 
    The document must be dated within the last three months. This can be a utility bill, rental agreement, bank statement with recent activity, or a letter from a government authority. 
    
    • Information about your business 
      - a description of the kind of services you provide, 
      - domain names used by your business, 
      - any social media presence your business may have. `
    
  • olokeoloke Member, Host Rep

    @drizbo said: I ordered VPS yesterday and they gladly took the money, now today I get email having to do "KYC" for my company LMAO.

    I think we informed you they are doing B2B only, so it was actually kinda expected they want to verify your business.

    @Alyx said:
    Leaseweb itself is only doing B2B nowadays.

    @COLBYLICIOUS said:
    I got an server from them like 2 weeks ago, until now seems to be pretty good. B2B, I got accepted with no troubles.

  • drizbodrizbo Member

    Yeah but why would they need my social media accounts lmao? Why do they need my facebook?

    Obviously I dont mind doing regular kyc

    Thanked by 2oloke forest
  • mans_xdmans_xd Member

    so you don't mind give them all your information, your photo, your business document, your government id verification and you mind asking for social media account for your business such as Facebook or LinkedIn 😂 okay that's a huge sense here

    they said: any social media presence your business may have

    not your facebook

  • DupondtDupondt Member

    @drizbo said: Yeah but why would they need my social media accounts lmao? Why do they need my facebook?

    It's because they don't want you as a customer. They want big clients whose name they can just type into Google or any social media and find. You don't fit their profile so they plan to reject you, unless the information you provide paint a particularly impressive picture.

  • drizbodrizbo Member
    edited July 14

    @mans_xd said:
    so you don't mind give them all your information, your photo, your business document, your government id verification and you mind asking for social media account for your business such as Facebook or LinkedIn 😂 okay that's a huge sense here

    they said: any social media presence your business may have

    not your facebook

    I sent them to the online government registry of companies in my country where they can confirm my bussiness, its address and me being the founder.

    For anything else they can suck my dick, its none of their concern

  • drizbodrizbo Member
    edited July 14

    @Dupondt said:

    @drizbo said: Yeah but why would they need my social media accounts lmao? Why do they need my facebook?

    It's because they don't want you as a customer. They want big clients whose name they can just type into Google or any social media and find. You don't fit their profile so they plan to reject you, unless the information you provide paint a particularly impressive picture.

    Could be yes, im not big corpa like them. But if they would google my name they'd see everything kekw

  • sadafsadaf Member

    I've had a good experience with Netherlands data centers, and Leaseweb is definitely one of the top tier providers there. Good routing across Europe.

  • ehabehab Member
    edited July 14

    @HostDZire kicks butt and balls << REALLY HARD

  • drizbodrizbo Member
    edited July 15
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    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
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    Wed Jul 15 10:01:50 AM UTC 2026
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 0 hours, 25 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC Processor
    CPU cores  : 8 @ 2645.030 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 23.5 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 295.2 GiB
    Distro     : Ubuntu 24.04.4 LTS
    Kernel     : 6.8.0-134-generic
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : LeaseWeb Netherlands B.V.
    ASN        : AS60781 LeaseWeb Netherlands B.V.
    Host       : LeaseWeb Netherlands B.V
    Location   : Amsterdam, North Holland (NH)
    Country    : The Netherlands
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda2):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 99.63 MB/s   (24.3k) | 532.79 MB/s   (8.1k)
    Write      | 99.90 MB/s   (24.3k) | 535.60 MB/s   (8.1k)
    Total      | 199.54 MB/s  (48.7k) | 1.06 GB/s    (16.3k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 479.02 MB/s    (913) | 503.70 MB/s    (480)
    Write      | 504.47 MB/s    (962) | 537.24 MB/s    (512)
    Total      | 983.50 MB/s   (1.8k) | 1.04 GB/s      (992)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 7.05 Gbits/sec  | 6.22 Gbits/sec  | 7.31 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 9.28 Gbits/sec  | 7.89 Gbits/sec  | 0.973 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.80 Gbits/sec  | 2.19 Gbits/sec  | 85.2 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | busy            | 1.42 Gbits/sec  | 156 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 684 Mbits/sec   | 1.51 Gbits/sec  | 131 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 1.96 Gbits/sec  | 2.85 Gbits/sec  | 83.6 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | busy            | 1.08 Gbits/sec  | 193 ms
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 6.35 Gbits/sec  | 6.69 Gbits/sec  | 8.98 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 9.17 Gbits/sec  | 8.08 Gbits/sec  | 0.932 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | busy            | 1.53 Gbits/sec  | 79.8 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 1.03 Gbits/sec  | 1.49 Gbits/sec  | 156 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 1.19 Gbits/sec  | 1.41 Gbits/sec  | 141 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 1.90 Gbits/sec  | 2.75 Gbits/sec  | 89.7 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | 860 Mbits/sec   | 1.13 Gbits/sec  | 198 ms
    
    Geekbench 6 test failed. Run manually to determine cause.
    
    YABS completed in 7 min 10 sec
    
    
    
    Ran GB manually:
    
    Single-Core Score: 1253
    Multi-Core Score: 6308
    
    https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/18709418
    

    CPU benches better than I expected. Its a killer deal for ~12€ a month.
    You get 10% off for yearly commitment, then 5% when paid 12 months upfront. so 135 for a year.

    Thanked by 2oloke tux
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