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Big Corp VPS in Netherlands - Leaseweb?
Yo im looking for smaller VPS in NL with really good networking and reliable. Along with fast cpu x)
Im looking at Leaseweb, I know 10 years ago their network was probably best among affordable providers in NL ? Is it still?
I had dedis with them but never VPS, dont know what to expect. Are they running some dog shit old cpus or overcrowded? Looking specifically at 8core 24gb offer
Or what are other good providers in NL these days? Totally out of the loop.
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Leaseweb itself is only doing B2B nowadays.
The VPS are nothing exceptional, but based on my experienced pretty solid.
So if you are looking for the best performance I might look somewhere else, if you look for something reliable, I can recommend them.
@HostDZire is your man for Leaseweb VPSs
they're quite solid, running on EPYCs. It can be a bit hit or miss depending on your neighbors but generally speaking my experience has been good.
I want the cum straight from source not through a reseller/collocator
I know what you mean bro
GLWT when B2B, 99.95% deny
I mean you get the same thing for even cheaper than LSW directly. You can either get VMs from HDZ directly via their coloed stuff or VMs from HDZ in LSW's own hardware.
Its actually double the cost compared to directly leaseweb.
I dont mind paying more just trying to find top reliability in NL
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/212615/last-chance-india-sg-jp-usa-ca-uk-nl-de-4-vcore-amd-epyc-10gbit-from-22-year
Big Corp != top reliability.
Still solid AF. Hardly gets any better. I have better servers from smaller hosts but support/stability at LW is top notch.
That escalated quickly...
It shouldn't be that hard in NL as there are many providers.
I personally, after benchmarking and reviewing quite a few VPSs and providers in NL, am perfectly happy with Leaseweb/ @HostDZire (both their own and resold LW) and with @AirnodeHosting (I'm mentioning only quality providers here).
And in case high-end connectivity is important for your use case I can also recommend @Hybula (my NL reference server). Those guys really mean business, they actually also run a quite well known IX (Eranium).
I'd recommend against any reseller that bans the hosting of encryption and privacy software. Not just Tor, but even private VPNs are disallowed. A host that actively fights against any form of privacy and the use of encryption ("obfuscation"), even for low-traffic personal use like a private WireGuard VPN or a mere SSH tunnel, is not one I'd give business to.
who what how
HostDZire. Their ToS bans not just Tor exits, not just relays, not just proxies, but VPNs (not limited to public or commercial VPNs, but even private tunnels) and anything that relays traffic or obfuscates traffic. It explicitly makes no exception and says that it's strictly prohibited regardless of purpose. So no WireGuard tunnel. No syncthing relays. In theory, the ToS even prohibits using TLS on your website or connecting to your VPS over SSH, since those "obfuscate traffic contents".
Is it a recent ToS change? I'll cancel the next renewal. Thanks for the info.
No idea how recent it is. It just prohibits anything "intended to anonymize, obfuscate, or relay network traffic". Perhaps they only intended to prohibit high-risk services like open proxies or Tor exits, but by including anything that relays or obfuscates network traffic, it ends up including encrypted things like private WireGuard tunnels in their prohibitions.
Here is the screenshot of their T&C. Wording is indeed very broad.
"relay network traffic" - so a (ssh) jumpbox would be a violation of their terms it seems.
Tagging @HostDZire so that they can clarify what this very broad ToS is all about.
I got an server from them like 2 weeks ago, until now seems to be pretty good. B2B, I got accepted with no troubles.
See benchmark here.
Always remember that any claims that "we won't enforce the letter of the law, only the spirit of the law" are worthless since the letter of the law is all that matters at the end of the day. The only genuine clarification would be a change of the ToS, for example to ban open proxies and Tor exits, but not everything that "obfuscates" traffic or "relays" traffic.
I would suggest he reword that section to "The operation of any Tor exit relay, open proxy, open mail relay, or public VPN" and leave out anything about "obfuscating" or "relaying" traffic. Or better yet, just state that you are responsible for any traffic that comes from your VPS. That will automatically cover any kind of relay abuse. But HostDZire has to decide...
I guess it's a strange mix of Indian laws/regulations, Leaseweb policies, misunderstanding, and unlucky wording.
But yeah, good idea to tag @HostDZire for explanation/elaboration.
as an individual?
Ok, since nobody talking about VPSs anymore. I also need 2 smaller dedis, 1 should be with igpu or cheapu pcie card x) eu only
You can check
https://hostingby.design/vps-hosting/They resell leaseweb as well.
I have 2 VPS from them for half a year already without issues
Yes that's a global rule including india so it's more strict,
We will soon apply some changes so it clarify a bit.
Basically personal vpn is allowed in any vps even india ones, where when complaint comes you are the responsible person,
Any vpn, proxy service where anyone else can use but not you then it's not allowed.
Like offering vpn services to your client, public etc.
But yes I will update TOS soon to clear confusion.
Yes. Tor is a touchy area (esp. because in many countries law enforcement doesn't really understand how Tor works and so will presume guilt for exit nodes and also claim you're "hiding" "bad" traffic on relays). So while, legally one is likely (subject to local laws of course) to be in the clear, it is a very arduous task to get it handled correctly in the courts of law and that is enough of a deterrent for us Low Enders.
The obfuscate is definitely scary - DoT/DoH would violate such clauses as would even HTTPS to a search engine (I mean they can't sniff on your search, so you could be searching for bad stuff - bam... you're dangerous).
Could be but it doesn't make sense when it's a server (or VPS) in NL for example. Surely considering NL and traffic volumes, they are a little more clued in on such policies and should have some good sane appropriate "defaults" for ToS.
Also, they do already seem to reserve the right to ask ("demand"?) KYC under some cases (not sure... I just have some vague memory of some recent scare mongering around it).
Anway... let's see if @HostDZire responds and clarfies their position.
I also have couple VPS with hostdzire and I have strange memory balloons
I don't know exactly what it is, what causing it, and should I care because I don't use this nodes for anything heavy atm. But this just a thing to consider
Please do and tag also so that we can understand (and clarify) the updated one.
Kind of makes sense. So, TL;DR: encrypt and obfuscate all you want as long as YOU are using it and there's no public access.
As for Tor, frankly, I personally don't care a rats ass, but obviously YMMV.
Not so sure about that because @HostDZire is an indian company and maybe must comply with it no matter where (but I'm not a lawyer just guessing).