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  • uhuuhu Member

    Some people get upset quicker than others. Some overreact and then can't take the step back to review their reaction and apologise for that reaction once they have calmed down. That tends to allow others to feed off their anger and problems escalate when they could so easily be solved.

    Some people just don't cope well with the freedom that internet forums give them to unleash their rage without thinking about the consequences.

    Some people like to spend all of their time developing new ideas, rather than fixing the ongoing issues with their systems. Really basic issues that they could resolve with a little communication.

    Am I posting in the right thread?

  • WyvernCoWyvernCo Member

    Admins gotta add a new rule for "don't try to get other LET'ers fired" :P

  • forestforest Member
    edited April 7

    @MaxTakeba said:

    @forest said:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/137719/lowendtalk-community-rules/p1#bannable

    Threats, harassment, doxxing, supporting terrorist activities, making public your wish for people here to die, motivating people to commit harm to themselves, etc. You're being a dick.

    Now let's see how fast this rule is applied. If at all.

    I doubt anything will be done about it. :/

    @TandM said:
    @jbiloh @angstrom @FAT32 Y'all might want to take action on this one...

    I agree. Jar actually doxing a community member over a bad review is beyond unacceptable. This goes beyond having a heated argument or getting in a pissing contest. This is trying to hurt someone in the real world.

    Thanked by 3WyvernCo iKeyZ cxg
  • timmmytimmmy Member

    @forest said:

    @MaxTakeba said:

    @forest said:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/137719/lowendtalk-community-rules/p1#bannable

    Threats, harassment, doxxing, supporting terrorist activities, making public your wish for people here to die, motivating people to commit harm to themselves, etc. You're being a dick.

    Now let's see how fast this rule is applied. If at all.

    I doubt anything will be done about it. :/

    @TandM said:
    @jbiloh @angstrom @FAT32 Y'all might want to take action on this one...

    I agree. Jar actually doxing a community member over a bad review is beyond unacceptable. This goes beyond having a heated argument or getting in a pissing contest. This is trying to hurt someone in the real world.

    sadly...with the staff as they are...i dont expect him to be booted
    our best option is to ensure this information remains accessible for all to witness

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • lichadelichade Member

    @WyvernCo said:

    @forest said: Well, that's assuming it did happen. If it didn't then jar is lying of course, but I'd hope he wouldn't lie about something like that.

    Can't know for sure, but he has been known to stretch the truth quite a bit in past. Like in his retaliatory reviews, where he equates leaving a bad review of MXRoute on Trustpilot to "attempted to utterly destroy our business."

    That being said, I just found something far more interesting...

    Apparently MXRoute tried to get me FIRED:

    I know he's infamous for his retaliatory reviews, but this is crazy 🤣

    holy shit, did he read what he wrote? going out of his way to find the identity of someone online + where they work.. thats actual harassment. he should take some of his own advice lmao..

    My concern is not only with the individual, it is with Together Money MXroute's apparent indifference to the behavior of the people they employ. A company in the financial services email hosting space has an obligation to hold its staff to a basic standard of conduct. Together Money MXroute has failed that standard.

    I have formally notified the company and expect accountability. Until that is demonstrated, I cannot recommend Together Money MXroute to anyone who values being treated with basic respect.

    @jar doxxing someone on an online forum because of an argument, makes you lose instantly. no matter how right or wrong you are. doxxing is never acceptable

    Thanked by 2WyvernCo forest
  • zedzed Member

    @WyvernCo said: Apparently MXRoute tried to get me FIRED:

    Holy shit this is real. I guess the writing was always on the wall but what the actual fuck.

  • WyvernCoWyvernCo Member

    If he gets banned can we swap the words in the thread title to "lowendtalk.com no longer seeks or welcomes traffic from MXroute"? 🤣

  • forestforest Member
    edited April 7

    Needless to say, after this whole doxing incident, my sympathy for jar still being upset over what happened has completely evaporated. I take back my previous statement that I have nothing at all against him as a person. This is reprehensible.

    Shame on him.

  • ralfralf Member

    @TandM said:
    @jbiloh @angstrom @FAT32 Y'all might want to take action on this one...

    @jar wrote on the e-mail in the first post:

    We have ended our listing and stepped away from that site.

    What exactly are you expecting them to do?

  • TandMTandM Member

    @ralf said:

    @TandM said:
    @jbiloh @angstrom @FAT32 Y'all might want to take action on this one...

    @jar wrote on the e-mail in the first post:

    We have ended our listing and stepped away from that site.

    What exactly are you expecting them to do?

    Ban his account.
    It doesn't matter that he's not planning on using it anymore, the site should clearly distance itself from bad actors, no matter their history or previous status.

    Thanked by 2WyvernCo forest
  • @ralf said:

    What exactly are you expecting them to do?

    Close the thread.

    Thanked by 1nghialele
  • forestforest Member

    @ralf said: What exactly are you expecting them to do?

    Apply the rules. Just because someone stops paying for a provider tag doesn't mean their account should be immune.

  • NekoparaNekopara Member

    @WyvernCo said:

    @forest said: Well, that's assuming it did happen. If it didn't then jar is lying of course, but I'd hope he wouldn't lie about something like that.

    Can't know for sure, but he has been known to stretch the truth quite a bit in past. Like in his retaliatory reviews, where he equates leaving a bad review of MXRoute on Trustpilot to "attempted to utterly destroy our business."

    That being said, I just found something far more interesting...

    Apparently MXRoute tried to get me FIRED:

    I know he's infamous for his retaliatory reviews, but this is crazy 🤣

    most unhinged thing i have seen in years

  • forestforest Member

    @JohnFilch123 said:

    @ralf said:

    What exactly are you expecting them to do?

    Close the thread.

    Honestly, that's what I suspect will happen, even though I think it shouldn't.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • WyvernCoWyvernCo Member

    A pinned PSA about the risks of dealing with MXRoute might be in order.

  • LeviLevi Member

    @ralf said: What exactly are you expecting them to do?

    First: cancel all LET packages.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • forestforest Member
    edited April 7

    @WyvernCo said:
    A pinned PSA about the risks of dealing with MXRoute might be in order.

    I think just a ban would be enough, since VeloxMedia behaved similarly (although... even then Eric didn't actually dox anyone, he just insulted them. Holy shit, does this mean jar is more unstable than Eric?)

    The rules do say that doxing results in a ban and nothing else, which would be fair.

    Thanked by 1rpqu
  • @WyvernCo said:

    @forest said: Well, that's assuming it did happen. If it didn't then jar is lying of course, but I'd hope he wouldn't lie about something like that.

    Can't know for sure, but he has been known to stretch the truth quite a bit in past. Like in his retaliatory reviews, where he equates leaving a bad review of MXRoute on Trustpilot to "attempted to utterly destroy our business."

    That being said, I just found something far more interesting...

    Apparently MXRoute tried to get me FIRED:

    I know he's infamous for his retaliatory reviews, but this is crazy 🤣

    I have always trusted MXroute based on the quality of their service and try my best to steer clear of any forum drama between others and the owner. But what I'm seeing now is seriously worrying and gives me(and maybe other customers) serious cause for concern.

    Thanked by 2WyvernCo iKeyZ
  • JasonMJasonM Member

    @Nekopara said: I know he's infamous for his retaliatory reviews, but this is crazy

    all my respect for Jar went away reading that revenge review on trustpilot. sad to see.

  • ralfralf Member

    @Maelstrom36 said:

    @WyvernCo said:

    @forest said: Well, that's assuming it did happen. If it didn't then jar is lying of course, but I'd hope he wouldn't lie about something like that.

    Can't know for sure, but he has been known to stretch the truth quite a bit in past. Like in his retaliatory reviews, where he equates leaving a bad review of MXRoute on Trustpilot to "attempted to utterly destroy our business."

    That being said, I just found something far more interesting...

    Apparently MXRoute tried to get me FIRED:

    I know he's infamous for his retaliatory reviews, but this is crazy 🤣

    I have always trusted MXroute based on the quality of their service and try my best to steer clear of any forum drama between others and the owner. But what I'm seeing now is seriously worrying and gives me(and maybe other customers) serious cause for concern.

    Well, to be fair, if @WyvernCo really is a Public Relations manager then his actions in that previous thread absolutely should be a concern for his employer.

    Trustpilot isn't the way to go about addressing that for sure, but I know for sure I wouldn't be happy hiring a guy like this to do PR for my company.

    I guess the lesson we can learn from all of this is that sometimes if you go out of your way to be a dick to someone, and won't stop harrassing them, sometimes they fight back.

  • forestforest Member
    edited April 7

    @ralf said: if you go out of your way to be a dick to someone, and won't stop harrassing them

    So writing a bad review is harassing them, and doxing is an appropriate response? That's all WyvernCo did.

    This is beyond concerning.

    Thanked by 2WyvernCo sayem314
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad

    @forest, @WyvernCo

    I wish to ask, what is the end game here? What you wish to prove/show/present?

    Are we debating the moral actions of Jar as a person? as if we do so, we are missing a whole lot of facts and we are now in page 4 of mostly-speculation-driven-facts-and-interpretation.

    And as a person he can write whatever the fuq he wishes on whatever the fuq website as we all do.

    Or are we debating MXRoute as a service provider???

    MXroute is providing a service for over a decade now and sincerely overall it is good

    As @MannDude said, you don't have to like the fella personally to use their service, I hate to my guts MSFT, yet I use it daily.

    And @WyvernCo, precisely how could you get fired from your work by a 3'rd party person??? Is your boss a kid that leans to whatever others say/write? If that is the case, you should choose another job as the next one not liking you and sending a mail to your work might actually pull it off.

    You really aspect us to believe that you almost got fired by a bad review by someone??? - this is childish.

    Or, if you do have a sensitive workplace and are aware of that, maybe try not to engage on public forums and expect no outcome.

    Jar wrote something about you, so what??? have you seen the shit that other providers get from users for some idiotic reasons???? I ain't seeing a list from them asking to bann users.

    This is over exaggerated really, providers are called scam, trash, thieves you know, the usual stuff by many here, not always true and almost none of the users were banned, yet when one provider takes action against a user, all hell broke loose... - see the irony??? :D

    I am not pointing fingers here, just wished to outline the truth and facts.

    I have said it before, we need to learn to play ball.

    Oh yes........ where are the popcorn gif's???.

    <3 Cheers!

  • forestforest Member
    edited April 7

    @host_c said: And as a person he can write whatever the fuq he wishes on whatever the fuq website as we all do.

    He tracked down and doxed someone. He didn't just write something mean.

  • stefemanstefeman Member

    @WyvernCo said:

    @forest said: Well, that's assuming it did happen. If it didn't then jar is lying of course, but I'd hope he wouldn't lie about something like that.

    Can't know for sure, but he has been known to stretch the truth quite a bit in past. Like in his retaliatory reviews, where he equates leaving a bad review of MXRoute on Trustpilot to "attempted to utterly destroy our business."

    That being said, I just found something far more interesting...

    Apparently MXRoute tried to get me FIRED:

    I know he's infamous for his retaliatory reviews, but this is crazy 🤣

    This is the guy your trusting ur emails to.

    Jesus fuck. Thank god there are alternatives like @Francisco Namecrane

  • ElliotJElliotJ Member

    @WyvernCo said: Apparently MXRoute tried to get me FIRED:

    Yeah but the parking at your office is atrocious, and you wouldn't need to worry about running over the geese again, consider it a bonus!

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • uhuuhu Member

    @host_c said: And as a person he can write whatever the fuq he wishes on whatever the fuq website as we all do.

    Just so I understand... You're comfortable with Jar doxxing people? Would you do the same to customers who give bad reviews?

  • TandMTandM Member
    edited April 7

    @host_c said: Jar wrote something about you, so what??? have you seen the shit that other providers get from users for some idiotic reasons???? I ain't seeing a list from them asking to bann users.

    How did he obtain the information to connect an online username to a real employee of that company?
    Surely you as a provider would know that abusing private data from clients to find out such information is strictly forbidden?

    I think that this is a reasonably alarming situation, regardless of what LET forum drama preceded it.
    All signs point towards MXRoute having accessed data they weren't allowed to, to do what they did, and that's what matters.

    Thanked by 3forest WyvernCo Obelous
  • forestforest Member
    edited April 7

    @TandM said: How did he obtain the information to connect an online username to a real employee of that company?

    No one knows, that's the fucked up thing. It's not public information that anyone could just Google.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • @ralf said:

    @Maelstrom36 said:

    @WyvernCo said:

    @forest said: Well, that's assuming it did happen. If it didn't then jar is lying of course, but I'd hope he wouldn't lie about something like that.

    Can't know for sure, but he has been known to stretch the truth quite a bit in past. Like in his retaliatory reviews, where he equates leaving a bad review of MXRoute on Trustpilot to "attempted to utterly destroy our business."

    That being said, I just found something far more interesting...

    Apparently MXRoute tried to get me FIRED:

    I know he's infamous for his retaliatory reviews, but this is crazy 🤣

    I have always trusted MXroute based on the quality of their service and try my best to steer clear of any forum drama between others and the owner. But what I'm seeing now is seriously worrying and gives me(and maybe other customers) serious cause for concern.

    Well, to be fair, if @WyvernCo really is a Public Relations manager then his actions in that previous thread absolutely should be a concern for his employer.

    Trustpilot isn't the way to go about addressing that for sure, but I know for sure I wouldn't be happy hiring a guy like this to do PR for my company.

    I guess the lesson we can learn from all of this is that sometimes if you go out of your way to be a dick to someone, and won't stop harrassing them, sometimes they fight back.

    Well, to be fair, there's no indication that he represents the company on this platform. If he doesn't, then his role isn't relevant. The real question is how jar managed to link him to the company in order to leave such a review? Particularly when both @WyvernCo and others assert that no public information exists linking him to the company.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
  • iKeyZiKeyZ Veteran
    edited April 7

    @host_c said: And as a person he can write whatever the fuq he wishes on whatever the fuq website as we all do.

    Sure he can, but he can also be held responsible for those words - especially as part of a company with a small amount of employees, with him calling the shots at that company.

    Unsure where some of you are getting that @WyvernCo or @forest have been "harassing" him.

    Thanked by 1WyvernCo
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