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Openvpn speeds from eastern Europe from various providers

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  • @Maounique said: Erm, if you have only 1 mb up, that cant be right.

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    I get 3mbps on OpenVPN with a 1mbps upload too. It's compression.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 2012

    @Aldryic said: Then it sounds like there's a routing issue.

    I already proved with numbers and taking as correct your own words as starting point, there is NO WAY you can guarantee all those 1800 chinese customers the minimum of 500 GB even if they push/pull at max 24/7.
    Why dont you just admit it and spare ppl's time to write tickets ? Granted, some will have better results, some can have prefferential treatment, but overall, it is impossible to guarantee even only a part of your customers, if they are only on the lowest plan, what they payed for. The bubble has burst, Humpty-Dumpty is in a million pieces and you cant blame Tor porn addicts and child molesters anymore.
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    P.S.

    @dmmcintyre3 said: I get 3mbps on OpenVPN with a 1mbps upload too. It's compression.

    I thought speedtest already accounted for that... Then it is much worse in reality...

  • Here is my speedtest, and this is from a 4G LTE Verizon phone, tethered.

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/1865323635.png

    :)

  • AldryicAldryic Member
    edited March 2012

    @dmmcintyre3 said: I haven't sent a ticket yet because I just realized it was as bad as it is.

    This is definitely something up with your routing, dude. Here's the same result from the node your VM's on:

    (edited to include the 10MB)

    (09:45:39) node23:~ root: wget -O /dev/null http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    --2012-03-30 09:46:50--  http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
    Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'
    
    100%[======================================>] 104,857,600 31.7M/s   in 3.2s
    
    2012-03-30 09:46:54 (31.7 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]
    
    (09:46:54) node23:~ root: wget -O /dev/null http://cachefly.cachefly.net/10mb.test
    --2012-03-30 09:51:26--  http://cachefly.cachefly.net/10mb.test
    Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net... 205.234.175.175
    Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 10485760 (10M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'
    
    100%[======================================>] 10,485,760  50.2M/s   in 0.2s
    
    2012-03-30 09:51:26 (50.2 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [10485760/10485760]
    

    @Maounique said: Why dont you just admit it and spare ppl's time to write tickets ?

    Why don't you just quit your trolling, or go bother someone else with your baseless lies? You've done nothing but make false accusations, provided no solid evidence, and generally just made an ass of yourself. By your own admission, you don't even have experience with us to base your "info" off of.

  • dmmcintyre3dmmcintyre3 Member
    edited March 2012

    Ok, I was using the filtered IPs for testing, and speeds are better when not using the filtered IP. (tests done with the same VPS used in my last post)

     wget ****.d3vm.net/10mb.test -O /dev/null--2012-03-30 12:51:04--  http://****.d3vm.net/10mb.test
    Resolving ****.d3vm.net... ***.***.***.**
    Connecting to ****.d3vm.net|***.***.***.**|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 10485760 (10M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: “/dev/null”
    
    100%[======================================>] 10,485,760  7.94M/s   in 1.3s    
    
    2012-03-30 12:51:06 (7.94 MB/s) - “/dev/null” saved [10485760/10485760]
  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 2012

    @Aldryic said: or go bother someone else with your baseless lies?

    You would like that, wouldnt you...
    I will post again the math with rounding up in your favor:
    2gbps=650 TB a month. Unless you have 1300 customers only and all on the lowest 500 GB plan, then you cant guarantee ALL 500 GB. By your own admission, you have 1800 NEW chinese customers, therefore you have much more than this, how would you divide that BW to give all 500 or even 200 GB guaranteed BW ?
    Blame the routing and the customer ? Suspend/boot those that "abuse" bw using more than half they have on the lowest plan ? It wont work, you did nicely so far, you shouldnt have spread libel and threaten/use bad words against me, the arguments are all here, solid, even if we take only a fraction of your customers, you still cant "guarantee" the advertised BW, you have to rely somehow on tricks to keep away/boot ppl that really use the resources. I was infuriated when you went as low as calling names on millions of ppl just because of that. No wonder you dont want us as customers, you dont want to put up with ppl that want to use what they pay for.
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  • @Maounique said: you cant guarantee ALL 500 GB

    It's a bandwidth limit, you realize this right? They're allowed 500GB of traffic before their VM is pulled from the network. So yes, we GUARANTEE that any VM with a 500GB limit can use ALL 500GB of traffic before they must either wait for the new month, or purchase more.

    I'm starting to seriously wonder if you require daily instructions on respiration and digestion.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    I begin to wonder the same... If you dont have the necessary traffic available even at full saturation of your 2 gbps line, how can you guarantee ppl will get to use that other than keeping fingers crossed they wont need it and if they do, you will boot them somehow ?
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  • @Maounique Who says that BuyVM has only a 2gb/s line?

  • How about this comparison...

    Do you think that every house in cable internet can Max their connection at the same time? No, they can't. If you want a dedicated line then go pay for your own bandwidth.

    You have no idea how the internet works.

  • dmmcintyre3dmmcintyre3 Member
    edited March 2012

    @Maounique I was able to upload at 7.94MB/s, which is 63.52mbps from a BuyVM VPS. If I was to upload at 7.94MB/s for just 1 full day, I would use over 500gb in 1 day.

    Anyway, bandwidth is oversold. If BuyVM doesn't oversell bandwidth, their datacenter does. If the DC doesn't, their network providers do.

  • @Maounique said: how can you guarantee ppl will get to use that

    If your plan has 500GB, then you can use up to 500GB, period. If you go over 500GB, you either wait until quotas reset, or you buy more bandwidth. Is this really so hard a concept for you to grasp?

    I'm not guaranteeing that they will be able to pull X speed at all times. I'm guaranteeing them that they can use 500GB of traffic before needing more.

    I see the problem here... your English isn't quite up to par enough to grasp the multiple definitions of 'can use'. So how about I give you this simple wording that you might have an easier time with:

    "You are allowed to use up to 500GB a month".

    @Maounique said: keeping fingers crossed they wont need it

    Why would I care? They hit the limit, they either wait on the quota reset or they buy more. End of story.

    @Maounique said: you will boot them somehow ?

    Again, their either wait on quotas to reset, or they purchase more. How many times do I have to say that before you actually listen to what you're being told?

    Oh, wait, we've been over that before. You NEVER listen to what people tell you, you simply continue to ramble about government conspiracies/scared providers/UFO sightings/whatever else you see in that deluded fantasy world you live in.

  • @ Aldryic Di you deal with people like this on a regular basis? Jeez

  • @bijan588 said: you deal with people like this on a regular basis?

    Luckily they do not escape from the asylum often.

  • @bijan588 said: Aldryic Di you deal with people like this on a regular basis? Jeez

    Not since we specialized in RO hosting. I would take dealing with the 12 year old Filipinos and BR skiddies any day over the hassle of putting up with his lies.

  • @Maounique

    Can you stop trolling here? That's all what you can do in your posts.

    And no, I am not a fanboy.

  • specklspeckl Member
    edited March 2012

    @speckl my popcorn is getting low.

  • I saw another buyvm speedtest with a Kansas server. They are not in Kansas, they are in San Jose California.

    Here's another result, this time from work:
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  • Thanks for chiming in with that, @efball.

    I have noticed a single common factor between the poor results (@vedran can you confirm this?).. they're all assigned one of our DoS-Filtered IPs. There's a good chance the routing involved with that may be causing some issues (though oddly enough only with speedtest.net... cachefly still performs like a champ). That's definitely something I need to get @Francisco to look into this afternoon, though.

  • gsrdgrdghdgsrdgrdghd Member
    edited March 2012

    @Aldryic said: I have noticed a single common factor between the poor results (@vedran can you confirm this?).. they're all assigned one of our DoS-Filtered IPs.

    I've already had poor speeds around 1 mbit/s when the DoS filtering wasn't enabled yet. (also my VPS is not behing the DoS filter)

  • @premiso said: Here is my speedtest, and this is from a 4G LTE Verizon phone, tethered.

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/1865323635.png

    :)

    Dude, I get 12Mbps on my iPhone 4S (which only goes up to 14Mbps)

    That isn't even 4G!

    In 2013, a new submarine cable is going under the Atlantic (40Tbps), that will decrease the round trip between the UK and US NYC to 60ms.

    Which should decrease pings to BuyVM, but I live in the UK and I still get > 200MS pings to BuyVM, which is terrible.

    I also used to be a customer of BuyVM, and found the network to be terrible. I never filled a ticket or anything, I just never renewed. So could be different now.

  • kendidkendid Veteran

    Here's my current on Buyvm -- like I said in original post it varies wildly... In a half hour it could be up to 5 Mbps -- this is actually VERY uncommon to have a speed this low. USUALLY hovers around the 2.0 Mbps mark...

    image

  • I do get consistently better results from my QuickWeb 80MB Xen box in San Jose:
    image

    My BuyVM KVM 128MB (slightly better this time):
    image

    My BuyVM OpenVZ 128MB is a consistently a little worse:
    image
    But nothing to complain about.

  • @gsrdgrdghd said: I've already had poor speeds around 1 mbit/s when the DoS filtering wasn't enabled yet. (also my VPS is not behing the DoS filter)

    That's fairly troubling. This is a definite drop in speed from what we consider standard, once @Francisco 's online this afternoon we'll be making this top priority to get resolved.

  • kendidkendid Veteran

    Traceroute

    1 * * *
    2 10.50.19.26 (10.50.19.26) 52.898 ms 82.833 ms 52.171 ms
    3 * port-channel3.ar2.fra4.gblx.net (159.63.20.241) 86.069 ms 87.252 ms
    4 208.178.63.114 (208.178.63.114) 223.155 ms 228.898 ms 235.714 ms
    5 173.245.86.18 (173.245.86.18) 224.422 ms 228.220 ms 227.589 ms
    6 node09.buyvm.net (205.185.112.109) 239.912 ms 242.246 ms 238.640 ms
    7 209.141.34.* (209.141.34.*) 235.993 ms 241.916 ms 244.111 ms

  • kendidkendid Veteran

    I just got thinking after my last couple of posts, sorry I didn't mean this to become a support forum or thread...

    Recommended if you are having problems to put in a ticket to make sure you are taken care of properly (this goes for all providers)...

  • @kendid - I'm very glad it turned out like actually... people have this alarming habit of not reporting problems, so there's times an issue can go on for some time before we're finally aware of it >_< At least we'll be able to nip this in the bud fairly early on.

  • kendidkendid Veteran

    For reference:
    Ticket #s -- 385686, 242755, 729973

    Hope you get 'er figured out! Glad you guys aren't the type to stick your head in the sand and ignore problems -- hoping they go away! Says a lot about your brand!

    Contact me via ticket #242755 if you want me to run any tests or anything... I'd love for your guys VPSes to work for me!!!

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 2012

    @gsrdgrdghd said: @Maounique Who says that BuyVM has only a 2gb/s line?

    @Aldryic said: Allotted Bandwidth != Transfer Rates. We're on a 2gbit line

    As I said, all the facts I have are from his own admission as well as tests posted here.
    I suspect they have one provider only, too, and I have no proof of that as he didnt say it but can be deducted saying it is only one line, not a total of 2 gbps. This would explain why some ppl have better resulte, their provider just happens to have peering with BuyVM's one.

    @Aldryic said: Just in the past year, almost 2000 signups from CN clients, and over 1800 of those are still active

    So, only in 1 year he got 1800 new customers which are active now, ONLY from China. Imagine how many are in total and he can only give those full bw IF they are only 1300 in total from all over the world.

    Nobody said BW is not oversold, nodoby said it is possible to give all in the same time reasonable BW but there must be a DECENT service level for ALL customers, overselling has some limits.
    You can now imagine why they shun high BW apps, it has nothing to do with child porn or copyright DMCA notes, and he is right he would have me at his throat if the BW would have been under 1 mbps. So, throwing away "troublemaker" customers, keeping only those that consistently underuse the resources, he can oversell to a higher grade than the other providers and he can also maintain a good image using frantech's grip over these boards, calling everyone who had a bad service or even those that MIGHT want to use what they payed for all kinds of names, keeping them at bay with the "general public"'s opinion, "as it is known" etc.

    This is high time for these boards to become independent and give all providers the same chances, discuss every offer in good detail, put up tests from EVERYONE, even those considered to be "monstrum sacrum", intangible by mere mortals.

    M

  • premisopremiso Member
    edited March 2012

    This is from one of my BuyVM 128M Nodes to a UK Server I have:

    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [text/plain]
    Saving to: `100mb.test'

    100% [==========================>] 104,857,600 1.22M/s in 2m 35s

    I would think 1.22MB/s is pretty good to the UK. But I really do not know as I don't live in the UK :)

    And yea @Maounique If you don't have the service, do not speak to it or diss it based on what other people tell you. Get the service THEN speak to it, or just stfu.

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