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Who blocks it?
220-dxb2.macberry-host.com ESMTP Exim 4.96.2 #2 Mon, 16 Dec 2024 10:27:15 +0400
220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited,
220 and/or bulk e-mail.
250 OK id=1tN4X3-0004Gj-2N
221 dxb2.macberry-host.com closing connection
That server doesn't accept mail from the US. That's not anyone's problem but the owner of that server. If my numbers must be reduced to compensate for a server that zero users send mail to, so must that of every company in the United States, which would be a ridiculous notion. Why not just spin up more servers and block mail, then artificially drag every company's delivery figures down for no reason while we're at it? Maybe if we spin up enough cloud servers and block Google, we can bring Google's delivery rate down to 50% by that logic!
Why are you being like this? Just feeling like being argumentative?
That would suck for a catchall, almost making it pointless.
Then you cannot claim you have 100 percent delivery
I can show hundreds of other cases where your delivery will be close to 0.
Yes, for business email, where you have recipients from Gmail or Outlook (highly questionable about 100% on MS, but ok), you may get close 100.
But 100% global delivery is not what you imagine
Also, about Gmail. Will we consider a Tab like Promotion as a delivery to inbox or not?
Gmail has enforced Tabs.
This is not how deliverability is determined and you know it. My customers are not sending mail to people who are blocking MXroute for its reputation, and on the off chance that changes we have mitigation in place which means that our customers can send email to 100% of people who want it and are capable of receiving it. When that changes, I’ll simply adjust as necessary to mitigate. That server that no one sends mail to doesn’t want it, that’s not a deliverability issue.
By your logic I can spin up servers and point a domain that no one wants to email to those servers, block Google, and claim that with each server I spin up I have reduced Google’s deliverability by X%. You have to be joking, you can’t be this stupid.
I'm actively working on a 'Domain Aliases' section in the cranemail portal that'll make it easy to handle the DNS verification as well as automagically enable Spamexperts (assuming the parent domain already has it).
Once that's done we'll work through the following:
Then in the new year we'll work on adding cranemail to the migration center allowing mass migrating of users.
Backups are being worked on as well, though I've hit a few road blocks on how best to make them available to the user. Most likely just split into 2GB archives and people can walk the list.
Francisco
Not sure I follow, but any catchall that requires per alias effort makes catchall useless, IMO.
My bet is the users issue is the domain isn't listed properly in spam experts, so spamexperts doesn't see the domain as 'local' and rather that the email is trying to get relayed.
Francisco
this will most likely not work, because each domain alias is an exact copy of the base domain,
if you want unique aliases per domain, you add another domain via the crane panel and add the aliases that way. otherwise it is abusing the resources.
Don't get me wrong, I can add domains that way if it matters (15 domains is more than enough for my use case) but I would rather want a unified inbox for all my domain emails and not wanting to have a different user creation for each domain with their own credentials and inbox.
if you want to send emails using the aliased addresses, using [email protected] but show as [email protected], your client just need to be able to change the from address to work with aliases
eM Client allows that via the account editor, you can add aliases of what to send from
great client btw
edit:
Thuderbird, go to Account Settings, and click Manage Identities at the bottom
Yes I understand it will work for [email protected] (even in the smartermail web) because it's the main user (and the only user) of my primary domain. What I would like to have is the new email aliases (other than "admin") which can be created in smartermail -> domain settings, but then it will be restricted to only the primary domain i.e. [email protected] and not on other domain aliases (eg. @domain.org)
that is a domain feature then, not a domain alias feature
you can add domain.org and ignore adding admin user, but add admin alias to forward to [email protected]
How can I add a new domain in Namecrane portal without adding a user? By default it will be adding a "postmaster" user if not mistaken.
a username is required, you can make it something that no one will ever send to like
domainadminuseronly@ just so you can manage and edit other users and aliases on the domain
Take your time, I am too lazy to do the migrationWe have a lifetime to do it.> @Francisco said:
Then I will wait for the development complete before I do the migration
Seems like this is the only way to go as of now. Thanks for the help!
I posted a question (some hours ago) and realized I left out an important detail: I plan to use webmail only. I don't see an option to edit the post to include this information. Should I re-post the question to make it clearer?
NameCrane does not offer this service, that is a aliasing service, proton can offer it because they purchased SimpleLogin, addy.io is a different service again and is independent, you can however host your own addy.io instance on a cheap $10/y service like I do.
otherwise NameCrane would need to get the addy.io source (it is on github) modify it to their own platform and work with their current mailing software etc.
but the base service of CraneMail is not an aliasing service. CraneMail is meant to be a replacement to gsuite.
Thanks for your reply. I assumed it would be standard practice for dedicated mail hosts. Runbox has been doing this since at least 2012 (and I would think longer) with multiple domain names. Isn't this how Fastmail works?
Despite having little experience with Google, I am surprised they don't do it.
I understand why you call it an "aliasing service", which implies it is something to be added on. But as Runbox has proven, it can work as simply a natural by-product of mail hosting and webmail.
One solution could be to push the backups instead of letting users pull them.
An interface to schedule backups where you can enter hostname, protocol (sftp/scp/S3/..), authentication, and when the backup is created it is pushed to the destination. This way you could easily limit it to reasonable values, like full backup once a month and one upload. Adding options like "re-upload" and stuff like that shouldn't be to difficult.
you can add aliases, send as aliases, reply using them, it all depends on the mail software you are using, but it will not be automatic like it is with aliasing services.
they are using their own built system for their service. CraneMail is using the SmarterMail system and is limited to their features
forgive me for this feeble (unfortunately unsuccessful) attempt to get a similar christmas present (100G lifetime) as another user in another forum.
Thank you. Your replies are helpful, mainly to get a clearer answer about what NameCrane is (not) offering.
I assume you mean Addy.io and SimpleLogin. With those services, making full use of one's domain name in one mailbox is not "automatic". In fact, dealing with reverse aliases can create a lot of extra manual work.
So with NameCrane, does a customer need to create a separate mailbox for each local-part? Would each mailbox have its own credentials?
It sounds like I might need to get familiar with the SmaterMail documentation in case more is possible than is being communicated here.
yes, I was meaning about addy.io etc, they are already configured to work automatically( handing of the forwarding or emails etc via your aliases) out of the box for your requirements, where doing it with SmarterMail requires a lot more work having to manually change your sent from address etc
you can configure accounts for each email address, or you can setup a catchall (anything@domain) to go to a single account, or add aliases for each address you want to go to a selected email account.
so you can setup [email protected] and [email protected] to go to [email protected] and configure your email client to download from one account and configure the outgoing address within the client with any of the aliases you setup. so it requires a lot of work and setup to do it this way, that is why I said addy.io etc as "automatic" as there are extensions to generate a alias to use, and addy.io will handle everything else without you have to manage anything.
Thanks. I'm still not sure how much "work" you're describing in NameCrane. Maybe I need to try a dummy domain name to see how much work it actually is for a hundred or so local-parts. It shouldn't require a lot of manually setting up. But maybe I should just believe you that it is, in fact, too much work.
In Runbox webmail, this is only a matter of selecting a "sent from" address in a drop-down menu inside the compose window. Fastmail works the exact same way. Is that what you mean by "manual"?
I can see why someone would describe Addy.io or SimpleLogin as "automatic" if that person has never experienced mail hosting and webmail that makes an aliasing service unnecessary to begin with.
Right now that’s about a zero.
Emails being queued while I work on configuring RPKI are still going to be delivered, this is an unintentional delay issue. It's clearing up now. Thanks so much for taking the opportunity to join in kicking someone while they're down, I hope it makes you feel great.
Guys behave. Let’s keep this on topic.
Best of luck on RPKI @jar.
Francisco