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SFTP backups and their management software
I have been reading some threads on the forum about backups, such as The Backup & Restore thread, Best software: backup and Looking for storage for Borg backups and the impression I get is that some of the utilities don't require any server side software, ie all the backup databases are managed locally.
Which of those utilities have good local GUIs?
The part that has me confused is the deduplication and other optimization features that require access to the backed up data.
For that kind of optimization do they keep local copies they optimize then upload and replace those on the servers or do they have they ability to optimize them remotely using locally stored metadata?
I can't see how SFTP can optimize remotely stored backups unless there are some server side utilities or scripts helping.
I've got some idle storage space with Hetzner and I'm looking for software with a good management interface to put it to good use.
I just checked and realized that it was 1TB. I thought it was 500GB. What a waste.
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Any views @vitobotta?
SFTP is an extension of SSH
Why focus on GUI, many good tools are cli.
I personally love rclone (via SFTP) . Multithreaded, can encrypt backups on the fly and it's super easy to get set up and running. After you get it tested out, add it to cron and call it a day. One thing that you may want that it doesn't have is de-dupe.
GUI wise, I haven't done backups via GUI in a good long while but at my last contracting gig, Veeam was their go-to and that was straight forward to use. Features did include de-duping/compression.
And it can combine all your storage vps and all your google drives/one drives/nextclouds etc. into a single huge backup volume. People are abusing free cloud tiers with it.
By name and/or hash
https://rclone.org/commands/rclone_dedupe/
https://rclone.org/commands/rclone_dedupe/
Wow...you just made my day.
Checkout kopia.io
Honestly, the only good GUI I've come across is the Web Edition for Duplicacy. It's well-designed and includes most of the key features from the CLI version (though not all). The issue is that even though Duplicacy has a solid reputation, I've had some problems with it that make me question its reliability. Right now, I'm using Restic CLI without any GUI on both my Mac and several servers.
Rclone is a great and helpful tool, but it's not exactly designed for backups on its own.
I think a good backup tool should include features like deduplication, compression, encryption, snapshotting, retention management, and integrity checks all bundled together. Rclone doesn't offer all of that.
It actually does.
Does it have all those features built-in?
Yeah, except for creation of file system snapshots, but that's bundled with OS. Why does it matter? It's a lower-level tool.
rclone dedupe
'compress' remote
'crypt' remote
fs snapshotting tool + rclone
support differs from backend to backend, some have full versioning support like Backblaze, some are like "delete backups older than X days"
rclone check
fs snapshotting tool + rcloneis NOT snapshotting done by rclone.None of the tools do fs snapshotting themselves and are using os tools behind the scenes most probably.
You are picking on rclone for no reason.
First, good backup tools handle snapshotting on their own, so you don't need to rely on file system snapshots. Second, I'm just pointing out some facts and answering questions—I'm not criticizing Rclone. In fact, I use it myself, specifically for syncing object storage buckets.
@vitobotta
This convo is pointless, opinions are already on the table. I'm not here to fight windmills.
If gui is a requirement, you should probably look at kopia or Duplicacy.
If you don't mind paying a bit, Acronis or Veeam gets the job done.
I have tried them all but I'm still relying on Restic. It's cli but extremely easy to use and has never failed me. There are various webinterfaces for Restic floating around but I've never tried them.
Do the
remotecommands involve rclone downloading the file and reuploading again, ie likecompressandcrypt?That would be rather inefficient so I take it there are some utilities on the server side for those tasks. Does the rclone installation process specify what these utilities should be?
"Crypt" and "compress" are remote types that can be layered on top of actual remotes. For example, using sftp+crypt will perform all operations over SFTP, but it will automatically encrypt and decrypt data as you transfer it between the remote server and the client. Also if you mount your remote as a local drive using rclone mount, you will see decrypted files.
Nothing is installed on server