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  • Rob_TRob_T Member, Host Rep
    edited January 2014

    I've also adjusted Maxis.com.my / AS9534 to see if that helps. Maxis users should see a marked improvement once NTT comes up as well (hopefully next week).

    Thanked by 3budi1413 Francisco mangkook
  • budi1413budi1413 Member

    I think right now Maxis itself have network problem.

  • Rob_TRob_T Member, Host Rep

    @imperio said:
    If you have to use las vegas location from malaysia i suggest trying provider which is using switchnap dc or a dc with level3 upstream as maxis peers with level3 at LA.

    Switchnap Trace and Ping to Maxis:

    PING g-0-0-1.kpgt-irr61.maxis.net.my (202.151.252.42) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from g-0-0-1.kpgt-irr91.maxis.net.my (202.151.252.42): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=186 ms

    Are you sure Switchnap is faster? Looks like it's about equal to me:

    ping 202.151.252.42
    Sending 1, 16-byte ICMP Echo to 202.151.252.42, timeout 5000 msec, TTL 64
    Type Control-c to abort
    Reply from 202.151.252.42 : bytes=16 time=178ms TTL=249
    Success rate is 100 percent (1/1), round-trip min/avg/max=178/178/178 ms.

  • cosmicgatecosmicgate Member

    Dear Rob,

    Possible to peer with celcom.com.my too? It has the 2nd largest userbase in Malaysia after tmnet.

  • mangkookmangkook Member

    @Rob_T said:
    I've also adjusted Maxis.com.my / AS9534 to see if that helps. Maxis users should see a marked improvement once NTT comes up as well (hopefully next week).

    TQ, I'm on Maxis

    but testing just now, ping certainly got better below 300 but speed still throttled.

    I'll just wait and see. already got a backup vpn

  • imperioimperio Member

    Rob_T said: Are you sure Switchnap is faster? Looks like it's about equal to me:

    You can test download and upload speeds.

    http://speedtest.switchnap.com/

    http://speedtest.switchnap.com/speedtest/random4000x4000.jpg

    ./speedtest_cli.py --server 1431

  • mangkookmangkook Member
    edited January 2014

    just got access to my friend unifi TMnet

    here's the mtr


    Packets Pings
    Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
    1. node21.buyvm.net 0.0% 31 0.1 0.1 0.1 0.3 0.0
    2. 10.1.1.5 0.0% 31 0.5 0.7 0.4 3.4 0.6
    3. te3-4.core1.las1.fiberhub.net 0.0% 31 0.5 1.1 0.4 9.6 1.7
    4. 10ge3-2.core1.las1.he.net 0.0% 31 0.5 3.4 0.4 12.7 4.5
    5. 10ge15-4.core1.lax2.he.net 0.0% 31 7.9 13.3 7.8 53.7 8.8
    6. 10ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net 0.0% 31 18.3 10.9 7.9 18.3 3.6
    7. LAX-GE1.tm.net.my 0.0% 30 8.6 15.6 8.4 106.5 19.8
    8. 10.55.36.76 0.0% 30 262.8 269.8 262.7 328.6 15.3
    10.55.36.106
    10.55.36.40
    10.55.36.104
    9. 175.144.88.70 0.0% 30 266.0 269.2 265.0 287.1 5.4
    175.144.88.58
    115.132.109.230
    10. 175.139.90.104 0.0% 30 268.6 270.0 266.1 288.0 4.2

    but suddenly my maxis speed back to normal

    mtr to my ip Maxis

    Packets Pings
    Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
    1. node21.buyvm.net 0.0% 69 0.3 0.4 0.3 0.7 0.1
    2. 10.1.1.5 0.0% 69 0.9 2.3 0.5 10.7 2.9
    3. te3-4.core1.las1.fiberhub.net 0.0% 69 0.9 1.0 0.6 7.5 1.0
    4. 10ge3-2.core1.las1.he.net 0.0% 69 4.8 3.4 0.6 11.6 3.8
    5. 10ge15-4.core1.lax2.he.net 0.0% 69 8.1 10.0 8.0 20.0 3.3
    6. las-b3-link.telia.net 1.4% 69 8.2 9.2 8.0 58.3 6.1
    7. las-bb1-link.telia.net 2.9% 69 15.1 14.8 8.6 53.9 6.1
    8. ae8.edge1.LosAngeles.Level3.net 0.0% 69 8.7 9.1 8.4 31.2 2.8
    9. ae-4-90.edge1.LosAngeles6.Level3 0.0% 69 8.5 8.6 8.3 10.2 0.3
    10. MAXIS-BROAD.edge1.LosAngeles6.Le 0.0% 69 9.0 9.9 8.7 35.0 3.9
    11. 202.151.252.253 1.5% 69 198.6 199.1 198.0 219.6 2.9
    12. 202.151.241.129 2.9% 69 197.9 197.9 197.4 200.0 0.4
    13. 202.151.241.134 0.0% 68 201.1 201.3 200.9 203.3 0.3
    14. bun-eth1.kpgp-pe60e.maxis.net.my 0.0% 68 199.6 200.1 197.6 216.8 2.8
    15. ???

    *edit
    haha just a blip i guess

    back to throttled speed. but the latency definitely way better than before! now can get to us under 100ms

  • mangkookmangkook Member
    edited January 2014

    update still no improvement

    BTW this is my friend on PI Wimax connection

    mtr from my vps


    Packets Pings
    Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
    1. node21.buyvm.net 6.2% 275 0.4 0.4 0.0 10.1 0.7
    2. 10.1.1.5 0.0% 275 0.7 1.6 0.3 11.6 2.3
    3. 38.88.14.9 10.2% 275 1.0 19.2 0.6 393.6 49.5
    4. te2-4.ccr01.las02.atlas.cogentco 11.3% 275 1.1 10.8 0.9 204.8 34.6
    5. te0-4-0-5.mpd21.lax01.atlas.coge 0.0% 275 8.3 8.8 8.1 22.2 1.2
    6. be2021.ccr21.lax04.atlas.cogentc 0.0% 275 8.8 8.8 8.1 18.1 0.9
    7. ntt.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com 0.0% 275 8.8 9.0 8.3 17.3 0.8
    8. ae-2.r20.lsanca03.us.bb.gin.ntt. 0.0% 275 8.5 12.5 8.0 100.2 10.8
    9. ae-6.r20.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt. 1.8% 275 120.1 119.2 112.6 150.4 6.4
    10. ae-7.r22.osakjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt. 0.0% 275 164.3 141.5 113.1 233.9 22.4
    11. as-0.r20.sngpsi05.sg.bb.gin.ntt. 0.0% 274 202.3 203.4 197.9 238.7 6.5
    12. ae-0.r20.sngpsi02.sg.bb.gin.ntt. 0.0% 274 188.0 187.7 182.8 220.5 5.2
    13. as-0.r03.kslrml01.my.bb.gin.ntt. 0.0% 274 191.7 194.2 188.0 284.3 12.0
    14. ge-0-1-0.r03.kslrml01.ce.bb.gin. 0.0% 274 201.9 199.4 193.6 389.7 14.9
    15. te3-1.pkh002.p1.com.my 0.0% 274 196.0 198.1 192.5 356.7 14.1
    16. te3-1.pkh022.p1.com.my 61.2% 274 193.9 194.4 190.5 217.3 3.6
    17. 122.255.112.232 95.2% 274 216.2 212.4 209.0 216.8 2.9
    18. ???
    19. 120.140.50.73 0.4% 274 267.6 354.0 243.1 612.1 68.1

    no throttle whatsoever

    from my other TX vps

    Packets Pings
    Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
    1. 198.23.249.11 0.0% 183 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.1 0.0
    2. host.colocrossing.com 0.5% 183 2.6 8.7 0.5 62.0 12.7
    3. colocrossing-quadranet.quadranet 1.1% 183 1.1 11.1 0.3 188.7 22.8
    4. 69.31.54.193 0.5% 183 0.5 7.6 0.3 54.4 12.3
    5. as2914.xe-0-0-0.cr1.dfw1.us.nlay 1.1% 183 1.3 8.6 0.7 91.4 13.1
    6. ae-1.r21.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt. 0.5% 183 38.3 12.9 0.5 94.0 19.0
    7. ae-4.r21.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt. 0.5% 183 44.8 57.9 43.6 127.1 16.2
    8. ae-6.r21.osakjp02.jp.bb.gin.ntt. 1.1% 183 164.7 174.5 154.2 257.4 17.5
    9. ae-8.r23.osakjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt. 1.6% 183 152.1 172.2 140.8 267.7 24.6
    10. p64-2-0-0.r02.kslrml01.my.bb.gin 0.0% 183 242.5 247.5 231.1 288.9 12.2
    11. xe-0-1-0.r02.kslrml01.my.ce.gin. 0.0% 183 240.0 249.5 230.0 419.0 22.8
    12. 202.151.241.177 0.5% 183 251.3 258.6 241.9 323.7 15.0
    13. 202.151.241.145 1.6% 183 241.3 244.6 230.2 286.5 11.5
    14. 202.151.241.141 1.1% 183 251.5 256.6 241.3 307.5 13.4
    15. bun-eth1.kpgp-pe60e.maxis.net.my 0.0% 183 282.0 246.4 228.4 295.1 14.1
    16. ???

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    I still get the feeling that the issue is on your end.

    With that being said! We'll have NTT in our own bandwidth this week hopefully, so you'll go right from your ISP to us on NTT.

    Francisco

  • mangkookmangkook Member

    @Francisco said:

    Haha after testing with my friend connection I think the same too.

    glad to hear you're getting ntt.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @mangkook said:
    glad to hear you're getting ntt.

    I did my best to not put any blame on your provider but it does smell that way.

    As I said, though, NTT will come in and it should help remove the potential cogent headache :)

    Thanks for being so patient,

    Francisco

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    Fran, can you check mine? I canceled all your vps because of that results :( I had always a bad connection and I know I'm not your client, but it may help the other ones

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @netomx said:
    Fran, can you check mine? I canceled all your vps because of that results :( I had always a bad connection and I know I'm not your client, but it may help the other ones

    Lets wait for NTT and our cogent routes lessened and then I'll ask you to test again, deal?

    Francisco

  • netomxnetomx Moderator, Veteran

    @francisco ok

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @netomx said:
    francisco ok

    Thanks ;)

    Francisco

  • NetxonsNetxons Member

    Target Name: speedtest.buyvm.net

    IP: 205.185.112.31
    Date/Time: 1/14/2014 9:41:33 AM

    1 32 ms [115.132.110.58]
    2 40 ms [115.132.110.57]
    3 269 ms [10.55.204.9]
    4 295 ms 30gigabitethernet1-3.core1.ams1.he.net [195.69.145.150]
    5 304 ms 100ge9-1.core1.lon2.he.net [72.52.92.213]
    6 296 ms 100ge1-1.core1.nyc4.he.net [72.52.92.166]
    7 299 ms 100ge7-2.core1.chi1.he.net [184.105.223.161]
    8 299 ms 10ge3-2.core1.den1.he.net [184.105.213.86]
    9 301 ms 10ge4-2.core1.slc1.he.net [184.105.222.154]
    10 309 ms 10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net [184.105.222.157]
    11 307 ms vegasnap-llc.10gigabitethernet5-1.core1.lax2.he.net [64.62.249.90]
    12 301 ms te1-1.core2.las1.fiberhub.net [199.47.208.10]
    13 301 ms [10.1.1.6]
    14 301 ms mirrors.buyvm.net [205.185.112.31]

    Ping statistics for speedtest.buyvm.net
    Packets: Sent = 1, Received = 1, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
    Round Trip Times: Minimum = 301ms, Maximum = 301ms, Average = 301ms

    From Malaysia obviously the route is not good at all =)

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    When did everyone in Malaysia buy VPS servers? :D

    As I said, lets see how NTT helps. It should help a lot.

    I do know @Rob_T pushed certain things over HE.

    Francisco

  • nonubynonuby Member
    edited January 2014

    Traceroute and pings will only give you minimal information on which to speculate on. Better you setup an iperf udp flow this will give you a better idea of how stable the route is (jitter and thus out of order packets) and how much loss occurs. With 300ms rtt latency you only need minimal packet loss for tcp performance to suffer, and I suspect this is what you are seeing, tcp wrongly assumes the packet loss scales with throughput and thus its pretty sucky situation. It may even be that this packet loss is happening within your ISPs network but you only notice it against buyvm because when you hit youtube, google, bing, gmail, vimeo, sourceforge etc.. the larger assets are on edge/cdn networks (I suspect MY has plenty but if not next door in SG) and the effect is massively dampened due to smaller rtt. Local forums in asia are rife with speculation that it's the ISPs deliberately doing this, and its those nasty transparent proxies*, or they deliberately throttle "international bandwidth" when the reality is that a small degree of packet loss has to be expected, even tier 1 network say (or used to say) they SLA to < 1% packet loss (on a 300ms rtt that's gonna hurt any http downloads).

    * transparent proxies still suck but they [wrongly] get the blame for everything

    Thanked by 1torsurfer
  • johnlth93johnlth93 Member
    edited January 2014

    @Francisco said:
    When did everyone in Malaysia buy VPS servers? :D

    As I said, lets see how NTT helps. It should help a lot.

    I do know Rob_T pushed certain things over HE.

    Francisco

    It's been awhile ... we're addict man!!

    anyway i had been your client since 2010 (on and off) ... back then it was Frantech instead.

  • mangkookmangkook Member

    @Francisco said:
    When did everyone in Malaysia buy VPS servers? :D

    @johnlth93 said:
    It's been awhile ... we're addict man!!

    LOL

  • mangkookmangkook Member

    @nonuby said:

    how do I interpret this?

    
D:\InstallTemp\iperf-2.0.5-2-win32>iperf -c xx  -i 1 -t 60
------------------------------------------------------------
Client connecting to xx, TCP port 5001
TCP window size: 64.0 KByte (default)
------------------------------------------------------------
[  3] local 192.168.1.5 port 6388 connected with 209.141.59.xx port 5001
[ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
[  3]  0.0- 1.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3]  1.0- 2.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3]  2.0- 3.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3]  3.0- 4.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3]  4.0- 5.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3]  5.0- 6.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3]  6.0- 7.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3]  7.0- 8.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3]  8.0- 9.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3]  9.0-10.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 10.0-11.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 11.0-12.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 12.0-13.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 13.0-14.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 14.0-15.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 15.0-16.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 16.0-17.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 17.0-18.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 18.0-19.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 19.0-20.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 20.0-21.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 21.0-22.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 22.0-23.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 23.0-24.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 24.0-25.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 25.0-26.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 26.0-27.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 27.0-28.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 28.0-29.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 29.0-30.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 30.0-31.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 31.0-32.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 32.0-33.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 33.0-34.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 34.0-35.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 35.0-36.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 36.0-37.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 37.0-38.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 38.0-39.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 39.0-40.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 40.0-41.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 41.0-42.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 42.0-43.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 43.0-44.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 44.0-45.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 45.0-46.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 46.0-47.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 47.0-48.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 48.0-49.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 49.0-50.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 50.0-51.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 51.0-52.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 52.0-53.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 53.0-54.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 54.0-55.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 55.0-56.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 56.0-57.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 57.0-58.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3] 58.0-59.0 sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec
[  3] 59.0-60.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec
[  3]  0.0-63.4 sec  3.12 MBytes   414 Kbits/sec

    im using sample argument from this http://goo.gl/nQbc2Y

  • budi1413budi1413 Member

    @Francisco While using Maxis, it's usually via Cogent to your Vegas location.

  • WilliamWilliam Member
    edited January 2014

    Francisco said: NTT is due sometime this month which will help a lot with speeds to Asia

    I'm afraid it will not. Not anymore.

    Maounique said: That is some top speed only excellent providers have to excellent providers considering the distance.

    mhm

    UPC Austria (250/10):

    William@QUAD :: ~# wget speedtest.buyvm.net/100mb.test
--2014-01-14 17:59:17--  http://speedtest.buyvm.net/100mb.test
Resolving speedtest.buyvm.net (speedtest.buyvm.net)... 205.185.112.31
Connecting to speedtest.buyvm.net (speedtest.buyvm.net)|205.185.112.31|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.test'

 2% [==>                                                                                                                                               ] 2,529,181    337K/s  eta 5m 49s

    Compared to us.edis.at:

    William@QUAD :: ~# wget us.edis.at/100mb.bin
--2014-01-14 18:00:29--  http://us.edis.at/100mb.bin
Resolving us.edis.at (us.edis.at)... 158.255.213.100
Connecting to us.edis.at (us.edis.at)|158.255.213.100|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 100000000 (95M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `100mb.bin'

 5% [=======>                                                                                                                                          ] 5,841,760    433K/s  eta 3m 50s

    And, for comparsion, Leaseweb NL:

    William@QUAD :: ~# wget http://mirror.leaseweb.com/speedtest/1000mb.bin
--2014-01-14 18:01:37--  http://mirror.leaseweb.com/speedtest/1000mb.bin
Resolving mirror.leaseweb.com (mirror.leaseweb.com)... 94.75.223.121, 2001:1af8:4030:1:0:dead:beef:cafe
Connecting to mirror.leaseweb.com (mirror.leaseweb.com)|94.75.223.121|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1000000000 (954M) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: `1000mb.bin.2'


81% [======================================================================================================================>                           ] 815,521,664 26.0M/s  eta 6s

    Not only Asia can into bad routing.... UPC has 100million customers in Europe...

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