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  • taoqiKOtaoqiKO Member

    Chatting away?

  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider

    @mght said:
    When will the last flash offer hit the shelves. Is Tonight?

    Monday-tuesday most likely.

    @gemini90 said:

    @sh97 said:

    @maverick said:

    @nvme said: What's wrong with Singapore? That latency looks unusual

    Dunno, you tell me. :wink:

                                                           Packets               Pings
 Host                                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 2. (waiting for reply)
 3. (waiting for reply)
 4. (waiting for reply)
 5. be-101.br02.sin-10.sg.leaseweb.net                0.8%   118  281.2 282.1 281.2 307.5   3.5
 6. ae-1002.br01.sin-01.sg.leaseweb.net               2.5%   118  281.4 282.6 281.2 315.4   4.5
 7. 23.106.255.5                                      5.1%   118  281.3 283.0 281.1 316.2   5.8
 8. server31.msrack.com                               9.3%   118  282.3 285.4 281.4 340.0  10.1

    You got me intrigued and I checked from some other locations in Europe, and got only worse numbers (290 ms, 315 ms...). The above should be Leaseweb, SG LG (194.127.192.241).

    There's some cable cuts in Singapore, maybe that's affecting. Or it's shitty routing 🤣

    There are some issues with latency from the EU to APAC recently. The latency sometimes exceeds 300ms, whereas it's usually around 220ms. This seems to affect other providers' EU upstreams/locations as well.

    Yes, I believe this is a more generel issue.

    @Shot2 said:

    @maverick said:

    @btselem said: Is it a general network thing with rather big variance in pings if one leaves mtr running for a while or is it something that is likely to be isolated to certain nodes and somebody blasting the port?

    When you reported this, I checked my monitoring and there wasn't any issues. But several hours later, I started getting some alerts, and noticed the same behavior as you, which hasn't stopped until now. Quite high jitter occassionaly and packet loss observed. Since these anniversary deals come with so little traffic included, it's hard to believe that network is monopolized, rather it looks like some other subtle issue. I opened a ticket yesterday and hopefully it will get fixed soon.

    Same observation, higher loss/jitter + CPU steal than in the days before these "anniversary deals". Router problem, attack, or probly also the cheapos tickling their new toy with YABS. Let's hope the issue subsides in the coming weeks, as soon as it gets back to idling servers - or the first few ©abuse start raining.

    I am observing the network quality on the server over the coming days. There is quite a bit of run on the server at the moment due to a huge influx of orders in the last two days.

    I did not at all expect this server to be filled anytime soon, but apparently some traffic from a Twitter account caused a 10x increase in visitors and a large amount of orders. There's likely going to be a restock throughout next week.

    Thanked by 4Zyra mythiccals1 MrRob YassGames
  • MrRobMrRob Member

    @labze said:

    @mght said:
    When will the last flash offer hit the shelves. Is Tonight?

    Monday-tuesday most likely.

    @gemini90 said:

    @sh97 said:

    @maverick said:

    @nvme said: What's wrong with Singapore? That latency looks unusual

    Dunno, you tell me. :wink:

                                                           Packets               Pings
 Host                                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 2. (waiting for reply)
 3. (waiting for reply)
 4. (waiting for reply)
 5. be-101.br02.sin-10.sg.leaseweb.net                0.8%   118  281.2 282.1 281.2 307.5   3.5
 6. ae-1002.br01.sin-01.sg.leaseweb.net               2.5%   118  281.4 282.6 281.2 315.4   4.5
 7. 23.106.255.5                                      5.1%   118  281.3 283.0 281.1 316.2   5.8
 8. server31.msrack.com                               9.3%   118  282.3 285.4 281.4 340.0  10.1

    You got me intrigued and I checked from some other locations in Europe, and got only worse numbers (290 ms, 315 ms...). The above should be Leaseweb, SG LG (194.127.192.241).

    There's some cable cuts in Singapore, maybe that's affecting. Or it's shitty routing 🤣

    There are some issues with latency from the EU to APAC recently. The latency sometimes exceeds 300ms, whereas it's usually around 220ms. This seems to affect other providers' EU upstreams/locations as well.

    Yes, I believe this is a more generel issue.

    @Shot2 said:

    @maverick said:

    @btselem said: Is it a general network thing with rather big variance in pings if one leaves mtr running for a while or is it something that is likely to be isolated to certain nodes and somebody blasting the port?

    When you reported this, I checked my monitoring and there wasn't any issues. But several hours later, I started getting some alerts, and noticed the same behavior as you, which hasn't stopped until now. Quite high jitter occassionaly and packet loss observed. Since these anniversary deals come with so little traffic included, it's hard to believe that network is monopolized, rather it looks like some other subtle issue. I opened a ticket yesterday and hopefully it will get fixed soon.

    Same observation, higher loss/jitter + CPU steal than in the days before these "anniversary deals". Router problem, attack, or probly also the cheapos tickling their new toy with YABS. Let's hope the issue subsides in the coming weeks, as soon as it gets back to idling servers - or the first few ©abuse start raining.

    I am observing the network quality on the server over the coming days. There is quite a bit of run on the server at the moment due to a huge influx of orders in the last two days.

    I did not at all expect this server to be filled anytime soon, but apparently some traffic from a Twitter account caused a 10x increase in visitors and a large amount of orders. There's likely going to be a restock throughout next week.

    From my point of view, having new customers will be great for HostBrr, it will give you more income to improve the infrastructure you already have, and this is very favorable for you, and for us, in getting more comfortable prices, and with good server options to choose from.

    I'm sure that in these days you will solve all these problems that you witnessed for the new customers and you can surprise us with more promotions on your anniversary, that for sure you will have many more new customers.

  • Shot2Shot2 Member

    ...or it could go the other way, overworked one-man stuff going fubar once money/customers/issues start piling up, or barely surviving to become disreputable overcrowded crap without a billionaire or state subsidizing it. Nothing unseen before on LET.
    Which is why "insane deals" repeating every few weeks is not necessarily good omen.

    Thanked by 7sillycat YassGames ShihabSoft bjo MateiSR stantropics niceghost
  • taoqiKOtaoqiKO Member

    I'm so anxious to wait

  • HaggbossHaggboss Member

    Hello @labze thabk You for deals
    The new 10gbps is hetzner ?

  • noisycodenoisycode Member

    @Haggboss said:
    Hello @labze thabk You for deals
    The new 10gbps is hetzner ?

    I don't think they are with Hetzner.

  • COLBYLICIOUSCOLBYLICIOUS Member

    @Haggboss said:
    Hello @labze thabk You for deals
    The new 10gbps is hetzner ?

    Nope.

  • hyperblasthyperblast Member
    edited April 29

    my NICE-EPYC (with win server 2022) is far away from 10gbps. is there anything else to consider in the windows settings?

    @dev_vps
    @labze

  • UchihaUchiha Member

    @Haggboss said: The new 10gbps is hetzner ?

    No, it's in the NTT Datacenter in Frankfurt with incoming traffic routed through Aurologic.

  • T_PT_P Member

    @hyperblast said:
    my NICE-EPYC (with win server 2022) is far away from 10gbps. is there anything else to consider in the windows settings?

    @dev_vps
    @labze

    My server also does like 800 Down and 300Up. Far away from 10Gbit.

  • sh97sh97 Member

    I think the DDOS protection is too sensitive, maybe @labze can comment on this.
    When I first got it, I noticed the first speed test I do hits 8-9Gbps. Then suddenly I am disconnected. When I reconnect again, speeds are sub 1Gbps and the latency is also increased. On the first day, it would restore pretty fast to normal, but now I think thats not the case.

  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    @sh97 said:
    I think the DDOS protection is too sensitive, maybe @labze can comment on this.
    When I first got it, I noticed the first speed test I do hits 8-9Gbps. Then suddenly I am disconnected. When I reconnect again, speeds are sub 1Gbps and the latency is also increased. On the first day, it would restore pretty fast to normal, but now I think thats not the case.

    sounds conclusive. i can confirm similar observations.

  • bjobjo Member
    edited April 29

    Ryzen with HDD-Storage. Brring slow and already cancelled:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
#              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
#                     v2024-04-22                    #
# https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
# ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

Sun Apr 28 07:38:10 PM CEST 2024

Basic System Information:
---------------------------------
Uptime     : 12 days, 9 hours, 6 minutes
Processor  : AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core Processor
CPU cores  : 1 @ 4200.012 MHz
AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
RAM        : 1.9 GiB
Swap       : 1024.0 MiB
Disk       : 1.5 TiB
Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
Kernel     : 6.1.0-9-amd64
VM Type    : KVM
IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

IPv6 Network Information:
---------------------------------
ISP        : IPPv
ASN        : AS48314 Michael Sebastian Schinzel trading as IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
Host       : IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co.
Location   : Waldbrunn, Bavaria (BY)
Country    : Germany

fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vdb):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 1.27 MB/s      (317) | 8.85 MB/s      (138)
Write      | 1.30 MB/s      (325) | 9.35 MB/s      (146)
Total      | 2.57 MB/s      (642) | 18.20 MB/s     (284)
           |                      |                     
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
Read       | 20.99 MB/s      (40) | 32.54 MB/s      (31)
Write      | 22.57 MB/s      (44) | 35.16 MB/s      (34)
Total      | 43.56 MB/s      (84) | 67.71 MB/s      (65)

YABS completed in 2 min 47 sec
  • kvz12kvz12 Member

    @bjo said:
    Ryzen with HDD-Storage. Brring slow and already cancelled:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    # Yet-Another-Bench-Script #
    # v2024-04-22 #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

    Sun Apr 28 07:38:10 PM CEST 2024

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime : 12 days, 9 hours, 6 minutes
    Processor : AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core Processor
    CPU cores : 1 @ 4200.012 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 1.9 GiB
    Swap : 1024.0 MiB
    Disk : 1.5 TiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.1.0-9-amd64
    VM Type : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP : IPPv
    ASN : AS48314 Michael Sebastian Schinzel trading as IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
    Host : IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co.
    Location : Waldbrunn, Bavaria (BY)
    Country : Germany

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vdb):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 1.27 MB/s (317) | 8.85 MB/s (138)
    Write | 1.30 MB/s (325) | 9.35 MB/s (146)
    Total | 2.57 MB/s (642) | 18.20 MB/s (284)
    | |
    Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 20.99 MB/s (40) | 32.54 MB/s (31)
    Write | 22.57 MB/s (44) | 35.16 MB/s (34)
    Total | 43.56 MB/s (84) | 67.71 MB/s (65)

    YABS completed in 2 min 47 sec

    You didn't bother to reach out to support?

  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider

    @sh97 said:
    I think the DDOS protection is too sensitive, maybe @labze can comment on this.
    When I first got it, I noticed the first speed test I do hits 8-9Gbps. Then suddenly I am disconnected. When I reconnect again, speeds are sub 1Gbps and the latency is also increased. On the first day, it would restore pretty fast to normal, but now I think thats not the case.

    Spot on. I had only configured part of one subnet for 10 Gbps as I expected this to be enough to accomodate the demand for quite a while. However, all IPs in this subnet was quickly used. I deployed another subnet and raised a ticket to change the mitigation threshold early friday expecting it to be resolved the same day. Unfortunately still waiting for Aurologic to update this.

    Thanked by 1sh97
  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider

    @kvz12 said:

    @bjo said:
    Ryzen with HDD-Storage. Brring slow and already cancelled:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    # Yet-Another-Bench-Script #
    # v2024-04-22 #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

    Sun Apr 28 07:38:10 PM CEST 2024

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime : 12 days, 9 hours, 6 minutes
    Processor : AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core Processor
    CPU cores : 1 @ 4200.012 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 1.9 GiB
    Swap : 1024.0 MiB
    Disk : 1.5 TiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.1.0-9-amd64
    VM Type : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP : IPPv
    ASN : AS48314 Michael Sebastian Schinzel trading as IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
    Host : IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co.
    Location : Waldbrunn, Bavaria (BY)
    Country : Germany

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vdb):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 1.27 MB/s (317) | 8.85 MB/s (138)
    Write | 1.30 MB/s (325) | 9.35 MB/s (146)
    Total | 2.57 MB/s (642) | 18.20 MB/s (284)
    | |
    Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 20.99 MB/s (40) | 32.54 MB/s (31)
    Write | 22.57 MB/s (44) | 35.16 MB/s (34)
    Total | 43.56 MB/s (84) | 67.71 MB/s (65)

    YABS completed in 2 min 47 sec

    You didn't bother to reach out to support?

    Certainly not the expected performance. Might have misconfigured the storage, but too late to diagnose if canceled. For some any issues are not acceptable, and thats fair.

    Thanked by 2COLBYLICIOUS bjo
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @labze said:

    @kvz12 said:

    @bjo said:
    Ryzen with HDD-Storage. Brring slow and already cancelled:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    # Yet-Another-Bench-Script #
    # v2024-04-22 #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

    Sun Apr 28 07:38:10 PM CEST 2024

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime : 12 days, 9 hours, 6 minutes
    Processor : AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core Processor
    CPU cores : 1 @ 4200.012 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 1.9 GiB
    Swap : 1024.0 MiB
    Disk : 1.5 TiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.1.0-9-amd64
    VM Type : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP : IPPv
    ASN : AS48314 Michael Sebastian Schinzel trading as IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
    Host : IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co.
    Location : Waldbrunn, Bavaria (BY)
    Country : Germany

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vdb):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 1.27 MB/s (317) | 8.85 MB/s (138)
    Write | 1.30 MB/s (325) | 9.35 MB/s (146)
    Total | 2.57 MB/s (642) | 18.20 MB/s (284)
    | |
    Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 20.99 MB/s (40) | 32.54 MB/s (31)
    Write | 22.57 MB/s (44) | 35.16 MB/s (34)
    Total | 43.56 MB/s (84) | 67.71 MB/s (65)

    YABS completed in 2 min 47 sec

    You didn't bother to reach out to support?

    Certainly not the expected performance. Might have misconfigured the storage, but too late to diagnose if canceled. For some any issues are not acceptable, and thats fair.

    @labze
    it seems that ddos (or something similar filter) is extra sensitive and download rate drops and comes back up after few seconds and then drops again ....

  • bjobjo Member

    @labze said:

    Certainly not the expected performance. Might have misconfigured the storage, but too late to diagnose if canceled. For some any issues are not acceptable, and thats fair.

    In the beginning the performance was better, but I cancelled it because having backups relying on a one person provider could be a bad idea.

  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider
    edited April 29

    @dev_vps said:

    @labze said:

    @kvz12 said:

    @bjo said:
    Ryzen with HDD-Storage. Brring slow and already cancelled:

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    # Yet-Another-Bench-Script #
    # v2024-04-22 #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #

    Sun Apr 28 07:38:10 PM CEST 2024

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime : 12 days, 9 hours, 6 minutes
    Processor : AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core Processor
    CPU cores : 1 @ 4200.012 MHz
    AES-NI : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM : 1.9 GiB
    Swap : 1024.0 MiB
    Disk : 1.5 TiB
    Distro : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel : 6.1.0-9-amd64
    VM Type : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6 : ✔ Online / ✔ Online

    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP : IPPv
    ASN : AS48314 Michael Sebastian Schinzel trading as IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co. KG
    Host : IP-Projects GmbH \u0026 Co.
    Location : Waldbrunn, Bavaria (BY)
    Country : Germany

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vdb):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 1.27 MB/s (317) | 8.85 MB/s (138)
    Write | 1.30 MB/s (325) | 9.35 MB/s (146)
    Total | 2.57 MB/s (642) | 18.20 MB/s (284)
    | |
    Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 20.99 MB/s (40) | 32.54 MB/s (31)
    Write | 22.57 MB/s (44) | 35.16 MB/s (34)
    Total | 43.56 MB/s (84) | 67.71 MB/s (65)

    YABS completed in 2 min 47 sec

    You didn't bother to reach out to support?

    Certainly not the expected performance. Might have misconfigured the storage, but too late to diagnose if canceled. For some any issues are not acceptable, and thats fair.

    @labze
    it seems that ddos (or something similar filter) is extra sensitive and download rate drops and comes back up after few seconds and then drops again ....

    Indeed. Awaiting a resolution from Aurologic as this is a IPv4 only issue for some IPs. Not all are affected

    Thanked by 1dev_vps
  • plumbergplumberg Veteran

    @labze are we gonna see some flash sales today?

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member

    @labze said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @labze
    it seems that ddos (or something similar filter) is extra sensitive and download rate drops and comes back up after few seconds and then drops again ....

    Indeed. Awaiting a resolution from Aurologic as this is a IPv4 only issue for some IPs. Not all are affected

    Thanks so much @labze
    You are an A+ provider for a reason

  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider

    @plumberg said:
    @labze are we gonna see some flash sales today?

    First priority now is handling some outstanding tickets and sorting networking then I'll post more deals.

    Thanked by 16Zyra YassGames hyperblast plumberg amaeva080 mythiccals1 ehab NHNHNH000 dev_vps sliix qeba kvz12 Uchiha sillycat xvps Porlam
  • taoqiKOtaoqiKO Member

    @labze said:

    @plumberg said:
    @labze are we gonna see some flash sales today?

    First priority now is handling some outstanding tickets and sorting networking then I'll post more deals.

    Waiting

  • maverickmaverick Member

    @sh97 said: There's some cable cuts in Singapore, maybe that's affecting. Or it's shitty routing 🤣

    @gemini90 said: There are some issues with latency from the EU to APAC recently. The latency sometimes exceeds 300ms, whereas it's usually around 220ms. This seems to affect other providers' EU upstreams/locations as well.

    I believe it's this incident: https://www.gslstatus.com/incidents/ndwm63910x0c

    It'll take weeks to fix that, but you can subscribe and follow progress.

  • Ognisty321Ognisty321 Member

    I'm very satisfied so far. The performance is great and their customer support has been really helpful. My only complaint would be regarding the bandwidth pricing. For the price I paid for the server itself, it seems quite high to get any additional bandwidth. Like if I wanted an extra 5 TB of transfer, it would cost nearly as much as the server! I find that ratio a bit odd. But other than that, I'm a happy.

  • vpsricvpsric Member
    edited April 30

    Wow

    Great deals. Yet i can't find any service could be used for those servers. 🤔

    And, they're all gone 😔

  • labzelabze Member, Patron Provider

    @Ognisty321 said:
    I'm very satisfied so far. The performance is great and their customer support has been really helpful. My only complaint would be regarding the bandwidth pricing. For the price I paid for the server itself, it seems quite high to get any additional bandwidth. Like if I wanted an extra 5 TB of transfer, it would cost nearly as much as the server! I find that ratio a bit odd. But other than that, I'm a happy.

    Appreciate the feedback. Due to bandwidth costs in the new datacenter I do have to be (much) more conservative with the allowance at least initially until I determine an approximate usage. Otherwise I could risk having quite a huge loss of these deals, and that is not good when I plan to be in business for many years to come :-)

    Thanked by 16Ognisty321 Zyra dev_vps amaeva080 SokolAlex mythiccals1 COLBYLICIOUS stantropics faleddo Wurminator xvps Uchiha YassGames HydeWing Porlam NHNHNH000
  • taoqiKOtaoqiKO Member

    @labze 1 vCore Intel Xeon W-2145
    1 GB DDR4 ECC RAM
    8 GB NVMe Gen4 Storage
    2500 GB HDD Raid-6 storage (NVMe Cached)
    10000 GB Bandwidth @ 1 Gbps
    IPv4 NAT (20 ports)
    IPv6/64
    €22/year
    or
    $25/year
    Is this still available?

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