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  • @PrepaidHost said:
    Hello everyone. New hardware was installed yesterday. It would be great if you could check our status page. We try everything to satisfy you. Sorry for the inconvenience.
    https://status.prepaid-host.com/

    However, after my testing, I found that the performance of SSD still does not meet a satisfactory level. At least, its performance in 4K reading and writing is still worrying, which may affect the performance of my IDE plug-ins and some gcc build operations, forcing me to abandon the idea of using it as a development server.

    I noticed that the CPU now has a significant steal time (see the figure below), which is not a good sign. In fact, when running GeekBench 6, I indeed saw a significant decrease in performance compared to the initial test. However, you seem to have never addressed this issue. If you really want to sell it at this price and oversell, it is completely understandable. You can simply and clearly indicate in the computing resources section, such as "(CPU 25% Shared)," instead of avoiding mentioning overselling that affects users' normal experience while claiming strong hardware performance.

    Steal Time

    In addition, you seem to have never provided any form of compensation to all users who have used your products. At least they have spent real money to support you. Such a poor experience is already a violation of the SLA in the terms.

  • @sjlleo said:

    @PrepaidHost said:
    Hello everyone. New hardware was installed yesterday. It would be great if you could check our status page. We try everything to satisfy you. Sorry for the inconvenience.
    https://status.prepaid-host.com/

    However, after my testing, I found that the performance of SSD still does not meet a satisfactory level. At least, its performance in 4K reading and writing is still worrying, which may affect the performance of my IDE plug-ins and some gcc build operations, forcing me to abandon the idea of using it as a development server.

    I noticed that the CPU now has a significant steal time (see the figure below), which is not a good sign. In fact, when running GeekBench 6, I indeed saw a significant decrease in performance compared to the initial test. However, you seem to have never addressed this issue. If you really want to sell it at this price and oversell, it is completely understandable. You can simply and clearly indicate in the computing resources section, such as "(CPU 25% Shared)," instead of avoiding mentioning overselling that affects users' normal experience while claiming strong hardware performance.

    Steal Time

    In addition, you seem to have never provided any form of compensation to all users who have used your products. At least they have spent real money to support you. Such a poor experience is already a violation of the SLA in the terms.

    Well summarized. Same experience.

    Thanked by 2sjlleo TLDojo
  • @Neoon said:
    This is my prepaidHost

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS)
    ------ | --- ---- | ---- ----
    Read | 18.91 MB/s (4.7k) | 289.78 MB/s (4.5k)
    Write | 18.91 MB/s (4.7k) | 291.30 MB/s (4.5k)
    Total | 37.83 MB/s (9.4k) | 581.08 MB/s (9.0k)

    You got 2x better IOPS in 4k blocks than me! :)

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 9.20 MB/s     (2.3k) | 232.04 MB/s   (3.6k)
    Write      | 9.23 MB/s     (2.3k) | 233.26 MB/s   (3.6k)
    Total      | 18.43 MB/s    (4.6k) | 465.30 MB/s   (7.2k)       
    

    It's not unusable, but now I get less than half of initial disk speeds

    This is Geekbench from before

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 1895
    Multi Core      | 8584
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/4728749
    

    Geekbench from now

    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 1172
    Multi Core      | 4496
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/4858667
    

    But that doesn't me bother me that much as IOPS, because I could still use that as failover or backup VPS. But with such IOPS? Restoring backups will take ages. Even updating packages is slow.

  • @dansch said:
    No reasonable provider will be able to offer these prices without overbooking, regardless of whether it is a Ceph cluster

    I mean... on blackfriday I've got deal from GreenCloud - $2.75/mo ($66/2yrs) that has 6vCore EPYC v4, 6GB of RAM, 66GB disk and I has similar CPU performance.

    With netcup there's ~10 euro 4vCore + 8GB RAM + 320GB Local NVMe promo every month (RS1000 G9.5 SE).

    This deal is not that "crazy" apart from RAM amount. But I don't need that RAM at all and I don't complain about it. Maybe it has ballooning and processes will be killed, I don't know.
    I complain about abysmal IO.

    You can get this amount of CPU and great performing ~300GB NVMe from other providers at this price.

    Now IO performance is worse than $5 1TB storage server, I'm not crazy to expect better performance out of 9 euro 300GB server.

    Thanked by 2sjlleo TLDojo
  • MoopahMoopah Member
    edited February 11

    My IOPS is pretty bad too. The Ceph cluster is very sad

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 22.50 MB/s    (5.6k) | 52.99 MB/s     (828)
    Write      | 22.51 MB/s    (5.6k) | 53.49 MB/s     (835)
    Total      | 45.01 MB/s   (11.2k) | 106.49 MB/s   (1.6k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 26.76 MB/s      (52) | 17.77 MB/s      (17)
    Write      | 28.54 MB/s      (55) | 18.75 MB/s      (18)
    Total      | 55.30 MB/s     (107) | 36.53 MB/s      (35)
    

    Run #2 is a lot better

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 14.01 MB/s    (3.5k) | 257.43 MB/s   (4.0k)
    Write      | 14.02 MB/s    (3.5k) | 258.78 MB/s   (4.0k)
    Total      | 28.03 MB/s    (7.0k) | 516.22 MB/s   (8.0k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 532.97 MB/s   (1.0k) | 592.22 MB/s    (578)
    Write      | 561.28 MB/s   (1.0k) | 631.67 MB/s    (616)
    Total      | 1.09 GB/s     (2.1k) | 1.22 GB/s     (1.1k)
    
  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    This is from right now, I guess its migration time.

  • @Neoon said:
    This is from right now, I guess its migration time.

    Bero is levels above this copy cat

    Thanked by 1berohost
  • edited February 11

    @allthemtings said:

    @Neoon said:
    This is from right now, I guess its migration time.

    Bero is levels above this copy cat

    I think the issue lies with a large German „deals“ forum. Everything that gets posted there + good value will get bought out 100%. The members hobby there is to buy „cheap things at good value“.

    (Has more then 2 million users, and a section of it contains homelabbers posting deals about cheap mini-pc deals or refurbished pc-hardware deals, big discounts & price errors on new hardware)

    It’s called mydealz.

    And I guess this happened to prepaid-host. This is actually the reason how I found out about LET lol.
    I am coming from there haha.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @dansch said:
    What do you expect? Its a reseller from a reseller (https://prohosting24.de/). This is some Proxmox/Ceph cluster built together with Proxmox and does not work with high utilization. No reasonable provider will be able to offer these prices without overbooking, regardless of whether it is a Ceph cluster (which is naturally always slower than local storage) or local storage. At some point, the air is out.

    I doubt that.

    Because, https://prepaid-host.com webinterface looks 1:1 like this.
    https://roeth-und-beck.de/reselling

    Guess that https://prohosting24.net/ is also buying from BeroHost, I doubt that prohosting24 and prepaid-host buying from each other.

    Thanked by 1berohost
  • berohostberohost Member, Patron Provider

    @Neoon said:

    @dansch said:
    What do you expect? Its a reseller from a reseller (https://prohosting24.de/). This is some Proxmox/Ceph cluster built together with Proxmox and does not work with high utilization. No reasonable provider will be able to offer these prices without overbooking, regardless of whether it is a Ceph cluster (which is naturally always slower than local storage) or local storage. At some point, the air is out.

    I doubt that.

    Because, https://prepaid-host.com webinterface looks 1:1 like this.
    https://roeth-und-beck.de/reselling

    Guess that https://prohosting24.net/ is also buying from BeroHost, I doubt that prohosting24 and prepaid-host buying from each other.

    Neither Prepaid-Host nor Prohosting24 resells from us. They are independent providers. We only use the same network upstream provider Synlinq and are located in the same data center.

    Thanked by 3ehab maverick sjlleo
  • @berohost said:

    @Neoon said:

    @dansch said:
    What do you expect? Its a reseller from a reseller (https://prohosting24.de/). This is some Proxmox/Ceph cluster built together with Proxmox and does not work with high utilization. No reasonable provider will be able to offer these prices without overbooking, regardless of whether it is a Ceph cluster (which is naturally always slower than local storage) or local storage. At some point, the air is out.

    I doubt that.

    Because, https://prepaid-host.com webinterface looks 1:1 like this.
    https://roeth-und-beck.de/reselling

    Guess that https://prohosting24.net/ is also buying from BeroHost, I doubt that prohosting24 and prepaid-host buying from each other.

    Neither Prepaid-Host nor Prohosting24 resells from us. They are independent providers. We only use the same network upstream provider Synlinq and are located in the same data center.

    Would there be any offer? 😊

  • berohostberohost Member, Patron Provider

    @noisycode said:

    @berohost said:

    @Neoon said:

    @dansch said:
    What do you expect? Its a reseller from a reseller (https://prohosting24.de/). This is some Proxmox/Ceph cluster built together with Proxmox and does not work with high utilization. No reasonable provider will be able to offer these prices without overbooking, regardless of whether it is a Ceph cluster (which is naturally always slower than local storage) or local storage. At some point, the air is out.

    I doubt that.

    Because, https://prepaid-host.com webinterface looks 1:1 like this.
    https://roeth-und-beck.de/reselling

    Guess that https://prohosting24.net/ is also buying from BeroHost, I doubt that prohosting24 and prepaid-host buying from each other.

    Neither Prepaid-Host nor Prohosting24 resells from us. They are independent providers. We only use the same network upstream provider Synlinq and are located in the same data center.

    Would there be any offer? 😊

    We are also planning offers again in March 2024.
    However, I don't think this belongs in the thread from another provider.

    Thanked by 1sjlleo
  • ProHosting24.net

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 8 hours, 16 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7543 32-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 4 @ 2849.998 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 15.6 GiB
    Swap       : 2.0 GiB
    Disk       : 196.8 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-17-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : Oliver Horscht is trading as \"SYNLINQ\"
    ASN        : AS44486 Oliver Horscht is trading as \"SYNLINQ\"
    Host       : Nicolas Janzen
    Location   : Leopoldshöhe, North Rhine-Westphalia (NW)
    Country    : Germany
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 19.98 MB/s    (4.9k) | 270.23 MB/s   (4.2k)
    Write      | 19.99 MB/s    (4.9k) | 271.66 MB/s   (4.2k)
    Total      | 39.98 MB/s    (9.9k) | 541.89 MB/s   (8.4k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.53 GB/s     (3.0k) | 2.13 GB/s     (2.0k)
    Write      | 1.62 GB/s     (3.1k) | 2.27 GB/s     (2.2k)
    Total      | 3.16 GB/s     (6.1k) | 4.41 GB/s     (4.3k)
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
    | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----
    | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.95 Gbits/sec  | 1.95 Gbits/sec
    | 10.9 ms
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.98 Gbits/sec  | 1.97 Gbits/sec
    | 12.6 ms
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 518 Mbits/sec   | 1.85 Gbits/sec
    | 82.3 ms
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
    | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----
    | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.98 Gbits/sec  | 1.92 Gbits/sec
    | 11.0 ms
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.96 Gbits/sec  | 1.95 Gbits/sec
    | 12.8 ms
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 526 Mbits/sec   | 1.83 Gbits/sec
    | 80.7 ms
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 1356
    Multi Core      | 4143
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/4865018
    
  • PrepaidHostPrepaidHost Member, Patron Provider

    We have now got the CEPH problems under control. You can find more information on the status page.

  • Looks like they don't do refunds.

    Thanked by 1PrepaidHost
  • Link says,

    Irgendwas stimmt nicht

    Die gesuchte Seite wurde verschoben, entfernt, umbenannt oder war möglicherweise nie vorhanden.

    Out of stock?

    Thanked by 1PrepaidHost
  • YABS again, and the I/O seems way better than a week ago.

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2024-01-01                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Thu 22 Feb 2024 03:24:00 AM CET
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 18 days, 19 hours, 42 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7443 24-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 6 @ 2849.998 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 25.4 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 295.2 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
    Kernel     : 5.10.0-16-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : Oliver Horscht is trading as \"SYNLINQ\"
    ASN        : AS44486 Oliver Horscht is trading as \"SYNLINQ\"
    Host       : Prepaidhost
    Location   : Frankfurt am Main, Hesse (HE)
    Country    : Germany
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 25.35 MB/s    (6.3k) | 305.26 MB/s   (4.7k)
    Write      | 25.38 MB/s    (6.3k) | 306.86 MB/s   (4.7k)
    Total      | 50.74 MB/s   (12.6k) | 612.12 MB/s   (9.5k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 540.30 MB/s   (1.0k) | 688.22 MB/s    (672)
    Write      | 569.00 MB/s   (1.1k) | 734.05 MB/s    (716)
    Total      | 1.10 GB/s     (2.1k) | 1.42 GB/s     (1.3k)
    
    Geekbench 5 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1030                          
    Multi Core      | 4952                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/22245690
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value                         
                    |                               
    Single Core     | 1368                          
    Multi Core      | 5585                          
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5016326
    
    YABS completed in 9 min 29 sec
    
  • CybrCybr Member

    My services on this host have been down at random times and when attempting to use SSH, I got a "Remote Host Identification Has Changed" error, so the IP allocated to my server has been being routed to someone else's server for random periods.

    I created a ticket about this a week ago, and there has been no response.

    Thanked by 1TLDojo
  • PrepaidHostPrepaidHost Member, Patron Provider

    @Cybr said:
    My services on this host have been down at random times and when attempting to use SSH, I got a "Remote Host Identification Has Changed" error, so the IP allocated to my server has been being routed to someone else's server for random periods.

    I created a ticket about this a week ago, and there has been no response.

    If your ticket is still open, you will receive a response as soon as possible. We currently have over 115 tickets open which are being processed. I apologize for this.

  • PrepaidHostPrepaidHost Member, Patron Provider

    The situation has eased. All tickets have been answered, technically we have recovered after the CEPH upgrade and the expansion of NVME memory. All affected customers have been given 14 days to recover.

  • @PrepaidHost said:
    The situation has eased. All tickets have been answered, technically we have recovered after the CEPH upgrade and the expansion of NVME memory. All affected customers have been given 14 days to recover.

    Hi sir, can you add more stock?

  • My VPS is usable again and I am satisfied with the price/performance :)

  • Please let me buy, I am late in the party :(

  • @bench said:
    ProHosting24.net

    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 8 hours, 16 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC 7543 32-Core Processor
    CPU cores  : 4 @ 2849.998 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ✔ Enabled
    RAM        : 15.6 GiB
    Swap       : 2.0 GiB
    Disk       : 196.8 GiB
    Distro     : Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
    Kernel     : 6.1.0-17-amd64
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ✔ Online
    IPv6 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : Oliver Horscht is trading as \"SYNLINQ\"
    ASN        : AS44486 Oliver Horscht is trading as \"SYNLINQ\"
    Host       : Nicolas Janzen
    Location   : Leopoldshöhe, North Rhine-Westphalia (NW)
    Country    : Germany
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 19.98 MB/s    (4.9k) | 270.23 MB/s   (4.2k)
    Write      | 19.99 MB/s    (4.9k) | 271.66 MB/s   (4.2k)
    Total      | 39.98 MB/s    (9.9k) | 541.89 MB/s   (8.4k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 1.53 GB/s     (3.0k) | 2.13 GB/s     (2.0k)
    Write      | 1.62 GB/s     (3.1k) | 2.27 GB/s     (2.2k)
    Total      | 3.16 GB/s     (6.1k) | 4.41 GB/s     (4.3k)
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
    | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----
    | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.95 Gbits/sec  | 1.95 Gbits/sec
    | 10.9 ms
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.98 Gbits/sec  | 1.97 Gbits/sec
    | 12.6 ms
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 518 Mbits/sec   | 1.85 Gbits/sec
    | 82.3 ms
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv6):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed
    | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----
    | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 1.98 Gbits/sec  | 1.92 Gbits/sec
    | 11.0 ms
    Scaleway        | Paris, FR (10G)           | 1.96 Gbits/sec  | 1.95 Gbits/sec
    | 12.8 ms
    Clouvider       | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 526 Mbits/sec   | 1.83 Gbits/sec
    | 80.7 ms
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 1356
    Multi Core      | 4143
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/4865018
    

    What package did you take? Black Friday?

  • emg88emg88 Member

    Is it even possible to offer these deals and make money without some type of over-selling or a bad business technique that VPS providers do ?

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @emg88 said:
    Is it even possible to offer these deals and make money without some type of over-selling or a bad business technique that VPS providers do ?

    Some providers have nodes with 512GB of Memory, you could surely do a slight overcommit on these without trouble.

    Thanked by 1emg88
  • PrepaidHostPrepaidHost Member, Patron Provider

    @Neoon said:

    @emg88 said:
    Is it even possible to offer these deals and make money without some type of over-selling or a bad business technique that VPS providers do ?

    Some providers have nodes with 512GB of Memory, you could surely do a slight overcommit on these without trouble.

    Our systems have at least 1024GB RAM. It is also an offer and not a permanent offer for every new customer.

  • PrepaidHostPrepaidHost Member, Patron Provider

    Hello LET,

    20 servers are now available for purchase.
    https://prepaid-host.com/aktion/spring-offer

    Thanked by 1Porlam
  • PrepaidHostPrepaidHost Member, Patron Provider

    A current disk benchmark after our CEPH problems:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda1):

    Block Size 4k (IOPS) 64k (IOPS)
    Read 19.69 MB/s (4.9k) 334.34 MB/s (5.2k)
    Write 19.69 MB/s (4.9k) 336.10 MB/s (5.2k)
    Total 39.39 MB/s (9.8k) 670.44 MB/s (10.4k)
    Block Size 512k (IOPS) 1m (IOPS)
    ------ --- ---- ---- ----
    Read 677.34 MB/s (1.3k) 777.31 MB/s (759)
    Write 713.33 MB/s (1.3k) 829.08 MB/s (809)
    Total 1.39 GB/s (2.7k) 1.60 GB/s (1.5k)
    Thanked by 2brueggus angstrom
  • PrepaidHostPrepaidHost Member, Patron Provider

    Hello LET,

    20 more servers are now available for purchase.
    https://prepaid-host.com/aktion/spring-offer

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