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Debian 12 "bookworm" released
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Modified image or container, should be running 6.1
should running 6.1 but does not.
i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon
Installing the 6.1 kernel.
install previous os version, upgrade to 12.
Unless you've done some custom modification (e.g., pinning the kernel version or using a custom kernel), the update to Debian 12 should upgrade the kernel as well
Is anyone using U-Boot?
The new Grub (i.e. Grub 2) is an underappreciated punch in the eye that deserves so much hate.
Edit: I'm still using Grub 1 with ext3 in my basement workstation.
dpkg --list | grep linux-imageapt-cache search linux-imageor
apt-cache search 6.1.0-9apt-get install linux-image-6.1.0-9-amd64is did so!
-> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/update-upgrade-debian-11-to-debian-12-bookworm/
worked for 7 out of 15 vps already.
thank you sir. i invite you to augstiner braustuben or schneider weiße wirtshaus in munich if you are at dark eater metal meeting 2024!
What version of
php-fpmcomes with Debian 12?8.2
https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/php8.2-fpm
Plot twist: openvz.
If that's the case, then all bets are off, of course!
Openvz6 had 3.x kernel and openvz 8 had 4.x afaik, so not sure about 5.x kernel. Is lxc host kernel used in lxc containers?
As far as I know, you can use basically anything.
Even 6.1 would work as of right now.
Correct. LXC uses the host's kernel.
Ever since RedHat paywalling their source, Debian/Ubuntu are gonna be king for a while. Debian is nice, I like it. The newest version comes with proprietary software, but it's contained to a single repo and you can disable it from installing with a boot option. Over the long term, I see the Linux space caring less about free software and more about free-as-in-beer. After which distros like Trisquel may be the only distros I'd use.
I don't see Linux giving up anytime before a natural death of Torvalds so it'll still be a fun space to hang around. But I'm aware it's basically just Torvalds keeping it GPLd so looking at other GPL OSs, because there are a few alternatives now.
I started with Ubuntu for my servers but quickly moved to debian, no complains and I see no reason to go with any redhat os stuff. dodged a bullet I see. Hope ansible stays though.
I thought I would just add this little tip, to import a WireGuard .conf file into the NetworkManager for those using the default gnome 43 desktop environment.
Basically, to integrate it, so that you have the VPN togglebox in the top right menu. open terminal, navigate to the folder where your wireguard .conf file is and run.
(replace wg0.conf with the name of your conf file.)
You can add multiple conf files, so that you have all you VPN toggle switches.
To delete it run...
(replace wg0 with the name of imported vpn.)
credit to this guy
https://blogs.gnome.org/thaller/2019/03/15/wireguard-in-networkmanager/
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interesting "development" @Francisco
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uname -rand don't delete this one :Psirs, what does this mean and how to solve it?
It seems to be related with the issue:
https://micronews.debian.org/2023/1702150551.html
Yeah, better not update Debian to a new version for the time being.
The bug is already fixed: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057843;msg=28
Also for people who like to run te newest current kernel, you can check the Zabbly project by Stéphane Graber (Project leader of Linux Containers(@lxc) and Ubuntu core developer): https://github.com/zabbly/linux
Bookworm is shipping a kinda fucked version of xorg though. I was about to update to Bookworm (well really Devuan Daedalus but it's pretty much the same in this respect) some time ago and had to realize multi desktop usage was simply impossible and the only solution was to downgrade (or maybe build my own xorg packages which i feel is somewhat annoying). Guess after years of Debian going downhill it has finally become time to abandon ship (at least on desktop) towards some less stupidly modern or generally source based distribution.
Also, it seems that
/var/log/sysloghas now been subsumed intojournalctlin Debian 12 which I found quite annoying.You can install rsyslog and you will have it back.