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Debian 12 "bookworm" released

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran
    edited June 2023

    @hyperblast said:
    what does it mean?

    > hyper@blast:~# ls -l /boot
> total 27864
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  236452 Jan 21 14:35 config-5.10.0-21-amd64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  236220 Sep 23  2021 config-5.10.0-8-amd64
> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root    4096 Jun 17 16:17 grub
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7414911 Jun 17 16:19 initrd.img-5.10.0-21-amd64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6781731 Apr  8 21:18 initrd.img-5.10.0-8-amd64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root      83 Jan 21 14:35 System.map-5.10.0-21-amd64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root      83 Sep 23  2021 System.map-5.10.0-8-amd64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7019136 Jan 21 14:35 vmlinuz-5.10.0-21-amd64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6820832 Sep 23  2021 vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64
> 
> hyper@blast:~# lsb_release -a
> No LSB modules are available.
> Distributor ID: Debian
> Description:    Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
> Release:        12
> Codename:       bookworm
> 
> hyper@blast:~# uname -mrs
> Linux 5.10.0-21-amd64 x86_64
>

    Modified image or container, should be running 6.1

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @hyperblast said:
    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

    Installing the 6.1 kernel.

  • HxxxHxxx Member

    install previous os version, upgrade to 12.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @hyperblast said:
    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

    Unless you've done some custom modification (e.g., pinning the kernel version or using a custom kernel), the update to Debian 12 should upgrade the kernel as well

  • davidedavide Member
    edited June 2023

    Is anyone using U-Boot?

    The new Grub (i.e. Grub 2) is an underappreciated punch in the eye that deserves so much hate.

    Edit: I'm still using Grub 1 with ext3 in my basement workstation.

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited June 2023

    @hyperblast said:
    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

    • check what's installed

    dpkg --list | grep linux-image

    • check what's available

    apt-cache search linux-image
    or
    apt-cache search 6.1.0-9

    • install the right one, something like:

    apt-get install linux-image-6.1.0-9-amd64

    • reboot (it should boot into the new kernel)
    • buy me a beer if I ever visit Dark Easter Metal Meeting
    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    @Hxxx said:
    install previous os version, upgrade to 12.

    is did so!
    -> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/update-upgrade-debian-11-to-debian-12-bookworm/

    worked for 7 out of 15 vps already.

  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    @Mumbly said:

    @hyperblast said:
    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

    • check what's installed

    dpkg --list | grep linux-image

    • check what's available

    apt-cache search linux-image
    or
    apt-cache search 6.1.0-9

    • install the right one, something like:

    apt-get install linux-image-6.1.0-9-amd64

    • reboot (it should boot into the new kernel)
    • buy me a beer if I ever visit Dark Easter Metal Meeting

    thank you sir. i invite you to augstiner braustuben or schneider weiße wirtshaus in munich if you are at dark eater metal meeting 2024!

    Thanked by 1Mumbly
  • aliletalilet Member

    What version of php-fpm comes with Debian 12?

  • UmutUmut Member

    @alilet said:
    What version of php-fpm comes with Debian 12?

    8.2

    https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/php8.2-fpm

    Thanked by 1alilet
  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member

    @angstrom said:

    @hyperblast said:
    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

    Unless you've done some custom modification (e.g., pinning the kernel version or using a custom kernel), the update to Debian 12 should upgrade the kernel as well

    Plot twist: openvz.

    Thanked by 2angstrom yoursunny
  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @TimboJones said:

    @angstrom said:

    @hyperblast said:
    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

    Unless you've done some custom modification (e.g., pinning the kernel version or using a custom kernel), the update to Debian 12 should upgrade the kernel as well

    Plot twist: openvz.

    If that's the case, then all bets are off, of course! :)

  • TimboJonesTimboJones Member

    @angstrom said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @angstrom said:

    @hyperblast said:
    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

    Unless you've done some custom modification (e.g., pinning the kernel version or using a custom kernel), the update to Debian 12 should upgrade the kernel as well

    Plot twist: openvz.

    If that's the case, then all bets are off, of course! :)

    Openvz6 had 3.x kernel and openvz 8 had 4.x afaik, so not sure about 5.x kernel. Is lxc host kernel used in lxc containers?

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @TimboJones said:

    @angstrom said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @angstrom said:

    @hyperblast said:
    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

    Unless you've done some custom modification (e.g., pinning the kernel version or using a custom kernel), the update to Debian 12 should upgrade the kernel as well

    Plot twist: openvz.

    If that's the case, then all bets are off, of course! :)

    Openvz6 had 3.x kernel and openvz 8 had 4.x afaik, so not sure about 5.x kernel. Is lxc host kernel used in lxc containers?

    As far as I know, you can use basically anything.
    Even 6.1 would work as of right now.

  • JeDaYoshiJeDaYoshi Member

    @TimboJones said:

    @angstrom said:

    @TimboJones said:

    @angstrom said:

    @hyperblast said:
    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

    Unless you've done some custom modification (e.g., pinning the kernel version or using a custom kernel), the update to Debian 12 should upgrade the kernel as well

    Plot twist: openvz.

    If that's the case, then all bets are off, of course! :)

    Openvz6 had 3.x kernel and openvz 8 had 4.x afaik, so not sure about 5.x kernel. Is lxc host kernel used in lxc containers?

    Correct. LXC uses the host's kernel.

    Thanked by 1TimboJones
  • xespoxespo Member
    edited June 2023

    Ever since RedHat paywalling their source, Debian/Ubuntu are gonna be king for a while. Debian is nice, I like it. The newest version comes with proprietary software, but it's contained to a single repo and you can disable it from installing with a boot option. Over the long term, I see the Linux space caring less about free software and more about free-as-in-beer. After which distros like Trisquel may be the only distros I'd use.

    I don't see Linux giving up anytime before a natural death of Torvalds so it'll still be a fun space to hang around. But I'm aware it's basically just Torvalds keeping it GPLd so looking at other GPL OSs, because there are a few alternatives now.

  • kaitkait Member

    @xespo said: Ever since RedHat paywalling their source, Debian/Ubuntu are gonna be king for a while.

    I started with Ubuntu for my servers but quickly moved to debian, no complains and I see no reason to go with any redhat os stuff. dodged a bullet I see. Hope ansible stays though.

    Thanked by 2xespo bdl
  • nocloudnocloud Member
    edited June 2023

    I thought I would just add this little tip, to import a WireGuard .conf file into the NetworkManager for those using the default gnome 43 desktop environment.

    Basically, to integrate it, so that you have the VPN togglebox in the top right menu. open terminal, navigate to the folder where your wireguard .conf file is and run.

    $ CONF_FILE="wg0.conf"
$ nmcli connection import type wireguard file "$CONF_FILE"

    (replace wg0.conf with the name of your conf file.)

    You can add multiple conf files, so that you have all you VPN toggle switches.

    To delete it run...

    $ nmcli connection delete wg0

    (replace wg0 with the name of imported vpn.)

    credit to this guy
    https://blogs.gnome.org/thaller/2019/03/15/wireguard-in-networkmanager/

    Thanked by 1Arkas
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member 
    ---------------------------- network-speed.xyz ----------------------------
      A simple script to test network performance using speedtest-cli
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Version            : v2023.07.24
 Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash
 Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash -s -- -r 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Basic System Info
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 CPU Model          : AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor
 CPU Cores          : 1 @ 3693.062 MHz
 CPU Cache          : 512 KB
 AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
 VM-x/AMD-V         : ✔ Enabled
 Total Disk         : 270.5 GB (3.7 GB Used)
 Total RAM          : 961.0 MB (168.8 MB Used)
 Total Swap         : 2.0 GB (26.2 MB Used)
 System uptime      : 1 days, 22 hour 30 min
 Load average       : 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
 OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 12
 Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
 Kernel             : 6.1.0-10-amd64
 Virtualization     : KVM
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Basic Network Info
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Primary Network    : IPv4
 ISP                : FranTech Solutions
 ASN                : AS53667 FranTech Solutions
 Host               : BuyVM
 Location           : Roost, Mersch-ME, Luxembourg
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Speedtest.net (Region: EUROPE)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server

 ISP: FranTech Solutions

 Nearest          0.83 ms     0.0%    4064.87 Mbps   3358.28 Mbps   TANGO - Bertrange

 London, UK       15.19 ms    1.3%    3788.36 Mbps   107.33 Mbps    M247 Ltd - London
 Edinburgh, UK    29.09 ms    N/A     3368.25 Mbps   46.32 Mbps     Vodafone UK - Edinburgh
 Dublin, IE       20.77 ms    0.0%    5166.10 Mbps   107.12 Mbps    Three Ireland - Dublin
 Amsterdam, NL    10.02 ms    0.0%    5713.09 Mbps   171.21 Mbps    GSL Networks - Amsterdam
 Dronten, NL      12.22 ms    0.0%    3114.23 Mbps   98.28 Mbps     Serverius Connectivity - Amsterdam
 Paris, FR        12.28 ms    2.3%    4755.51 Mbps   109.63 Mbps    ORANGE FRANCE - Paris
 Marseille, FR    23.42 ms    0.8%    5724.95 Mbps   42.43 Mbps     GSL Networks - Marseille
 Madrid, ES       36.06 ms    0.5%    5477.69 Mbps   52.48 Mbps     Orange - Jazztel - Madrid
 Barcelona, ES    27.43 ms    0.0%    3163.62 Mbps   137.00 Mbps    Adamo - Barcelona
 Lisbon, PT       38.49 ms    1.0%    3175.65 Mbps   84.36 Mbps     Edgoo Networks - Lisbon
 Rome, IT         26.71 ms    0.0%    4313.66 Mbps   187.08 Mbps    TIM SpA - Rome
 Milan, IT        14.38 ms    1.5%    7073.48 Mbps   77.80 Mbps     Vodafone IT - Milan
 Zurich, CH       10.72 ms    0.7%    2840.66 Mbps   170.21 Mbps    Sunrise Communication AG - Zurich
 Frankfurt, DE    5.47 ms     0.0%    4410.12 Mbps   398.18 Mbps    23M GmbH - Frankfurt Am Main
 Berlin, DE       17.40 ms    1.0%    5137.22 Mbps   109.99 Mbps    Misaka Network, Inc. - Berlin
 Vienna, AT       16.42 ms    2.2%    4528.85 Mbps   119.93 Mbps    A1 Telekom Austria AG - Vienna
 Budapest, HU     18.31 ms    0.0%    4195.43 Mbps   100.33 Mbps    ATW Internet Kft. - Budapest
 Gdansk, PL       29.94 ms    0.7%    66.65 Mbps     125.67 Mbps    T-Mobile Polska S.A. - Gdańsk
 Warsaw, PL       23.66 ms    0.0%    3657.96 Mbps   69.51 Mbps     Orange Polska S.A. - Warsaw
 Lviv, UA         41.94 ms    0.0%    5223.16 Mbps   40.26 Mbps     Kyivstar - Lviv
 Kyiv, UA         38.17 ms    0.0%    3703.42 Mbps   57.02 Mbps     o3 - Kyiv
 Minsk, BY        37.20 ms    0.0%    4766.27 Mbps   241.12 Mbps    A1 - Minsk
 Bucharest, RO    31.03 ms    0.0%    3455.30 Mbps   165.48 Mbps    Orange Romania Communications - Bucharest
 Iasi, RO         29.08 ms    0.9%    5963.11 Mbps   48.80 Mbps     Digi
 Helsinki, FI     26.28 ms    0.8%    2678.80 Mbps   69.27 Mbps     Elisa Oyj - Helsinki
 Stockholm, SE    28.00 ms    0.0%    2619.48 Mbps   93.39 Mbps     i3D.net - Stockholm
 Oslo, NO         27.54 ms    1.3%    2509.68 Mbps   69.17 Mbps     Speedtest.net - Oslo
 Moscow, RU       40.11 ms    0.4%    6840.44 Mbps   141.50 Mbps    Rostelecom - Moscow
 Petersburg, RU   34.57 ms    1.3%    2569.01 Mbps   46.85 Mbps     MTS OJSC - Saint Petersburg
 Istanbul, TR     41.06 ms    1.8%    3703.77 Mbps   89.54 Mbps     Turkcell - Istanbul
 Tbilisi, GE      72.62 ms    N/A     3176.33 Mbps   106.21 Mbps    Silknet JSC - Tbilisi
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Avg DL Speed       : 4092.00 Mbps
 Avg UL Speed       : 213.80 Mbps

 Total DL Data      : 167.49 GB
 Total UL Data      : 10.74 GB
 Total Data         : 178.23 GB
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Duration           : 14 min 57 sec
 System Time        : 28/07/2023 - 02:18:42 PDT
 Total Script Runs  : 19761
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Result             : see above
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    @Mumbly said:

    @hyperblast said:
    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

    • check what's installed

    dpkg --list | grep linux-image

    sir, how to deinstall unused installed images?

  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    interesting "development" @Francisco

    ---------------------------- network-speed.xyz ----------------------------
      A simple script to test network performance using speedtest-cli
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Version            : v2023.10.24
 Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash
 Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- network-speed.xyz | bash -s -- -r 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Basic System Info
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 CPU Model          : AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor
 CPU Cores          : 1 @ 3693.062 MHz
 CPU Cache          : 512 KB
 AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
 VM-x/AMD-V         : ✔ Enabled
 Total Disk         : 270.5 GB (3.7 GB Used)
 Total RAM          : 960.6 MB (233.1 MB Used)
 Total Swap         : 2.0 GB (18.2 MB Used)
 System uptime      : 15 days, 23 hour 11 min
 Load average       : 0.07, 0.02, 0.00
 OS                 : Debian GNU/Linux 12
 Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
 Kernel             : 6.1.0-13-amd64
 Virtualization     : KVM
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Basic Network Info
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Primary Network    : IPv4
 IPv6 Access        : ❌ Offline
 IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
 ISP                : FranTech Solutions
 ASN                : AS53667 FranTech Solutions
 Host               : BuyVM
 Location           : Roost, Mersch-ME, Luxembourg
 Location (IPv4)    : Dudelange, Esch-sur-Alzette, LU
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Speedtest.net (Region: EUROPE)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server

 ISP: FranTech Solutions

 Nearest          0.99 ms     0.0%    4448.38 Mbps   2515.68 Mbps   CONSULTIC - Bettembourg

 London, UK       18.97 ms    0.0%    1754.08 Mbps   170.54 Mbps    M247 Ltd - London
 Edinburgh, UK    27.34 ms    N/A     1623.33 Mbps   108.99 Mbps    Vodafone UK - Edinburgh
 Dublin, IE       20.72 ms    0.5%    3852.75 Mbps   106.63 Mbps    Three Ireland - Dublin
 Amsterdam, NL    8.50 ms     0.0%    2878.02 Mbps   297.54 Mbps    Melbicom - Amsterdam
 Eygelshoen, NL   13.35 ms    0.0%    1527.48 Mbps   184.14 Mbps    SkyLink Data Center BV - Eygelshoven
 Paris, FR        12.51 ms    0.0%    2407.40 Mbps   261.51 Mbps    ORANGE FRANCE - Paris
 Marseille, FR    22.83 ms    0.0%    3307.19 Mbps   184.48 Mbps    GSL Networks - Marseille
 Madrid, ES       36.84 ms    0.5%    3799.31 Mbps   109.90 Mbps    Orange - Jazztel - Madrid
 Barcelona, ES    27.33 ms    0.0%    1155.73 Mbps   187.98 Mbps    Adamo - Barcelona
 Lisbon, PT       38.57 ms    0.0%    1035.97 Mbps   121.67 Mbps    Edgoo Networks - Lisbon
 Rome, IT         31.97 ms    0.0%    2447.38 Mbps   141.49 Mbps    TIM SpA - Rome
 Milan, IT        14.47 ms    0.0%    2803.60 Mbps   164.19 Mbps    Fastweb SpA - Milan
 Zurich, CH       10.94 ms    0.5%    3073.92 Mbps   383.16 Mbps    Sunrise Communication AG - Zurich
 Frankfurt, DE    5.20 ms     0.0%    2756.58 Mbps   708.50 Mbps    23M GmbH - Frankfurt am Main
 Berlin, DE       17.71 ms    N/A     2488.47 Mbps   105.13 Mbps    Misaka Network, Inc. - Berlin
 Vienna, AT       16.48 ms    0.0%    2076.06 Mbps   337.97 Mbps    A1 Telekom Austria AG - Vienna
 Budapest, HU     20.26 ms    0.9%    1848.71 Mbps   151.56 Mbps    ATW Internet Kft. - Budapest
 Gdansk, PL       30.11 ms    0.0%    1275.38 Mbps   103.16 Mbps    T-Mobile Polska S.A. - Gdańsk
 Warsaw, PL       23.53 ms    0.5%    1503.89 Mbps   298.24 Mbps    Orange Polska S.A. - Warsaw
 Lviv, UA         41.60 ms    0.0%    2294.48 Mbps   265.88 Mbps    Kyivstar - Lviv
 Kyiv, UA         37.23 ms    0.0%    1569.43 Mbps   148.44 Mbps    o3 - Kyiv
 Minsk, BY        31.68 ms    0.3%    4160.67 Mbps   120.09 Mbps    A1 - Minsk
 Bucharest, RO    31.72 ms    0.0%    1481.89 Mbps   207.84 Mbps    Orange Romania Communications - Bucharest
 Iasi, RO         40.13 ms    3.5%    2909.30 Mbps   117.39 Mbps    Digi
 Helsinki, FI     35.90 ms    0.8%    1720.10 Mbps   102.91 Mbps    Elisa Oyj - Helsinki
 Stockholm, SE    37.55 ms    0.0%    961.96 Mbps    118.43 Mbps    i3D.net - Stockholm
 Oslo, NO         29.44 ms    0.0%    970.79 Mbps    273.51 Mbps    Speedtest.net - Oslo
 Moscow, RU       38.26 ms    0.0%    1528.59 Mbps   213.93 Mbps    Rostelecom - Moscow
 Petersburg, RU   56.59 ms    0.0%    1078.68 Mbps   98.35 Mbps     MTS OJSC - Saint Petersburg
 Istanbul, TR     41.35 ms    0.3%    1828.58 Mbps   64.82 Mbps     Turkcell - Istanbul
 Tbilisi, GE      64.44 ms    N/A     1875.14 Mbps   260.48 Mbps    Silknet JSC - Tbilisi
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Avg DL Speed       : 2201.36 Mbps
 Avg UL Speed       : 269.83 Mbps

 Total DL Data      : 88.35 GB
 Total UL Data      : 15.78 GB
 Total Data         : 104.13 GB
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Duration           : 14 min 53 sec
 System Time        : 26/10/2023 - 10:17:36 PDT
 Total Script Runs  : 26040
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Result             : see above
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited October 2023

    @hyperblast said:

    @Mumbly said:

    @hyperblast said:
    should running 6.1 but does not.

    i remember having this problem before but can't imagine the solution. does it have anything to do with grub? do you have any idea how to solve it? @Neoon

    • check what's installed

    dpkg --list | grep linux-image

    sir, how to deinstall unused installed images?

    apt-get purge old-image-name

    Before that check what you're running with uname -r and don't delete this one :P

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    sirs, what does this mean and how to solve it?

    Err:30 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64 amd64 6.1.64-1
  403  Access denied - broken package [IP: 2a04:4e42:65::644 443]
Err:31 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 linux-image-amd64 amd64 6.1.64-1
  403  Access denied - broken package [IP: 2a04:4e42:65::644 443]
Get:32 https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm/main amd64 linux-libc-dev amd64 6.1.64-1 [1,901 kB]
Fetched 35.7 MB in 0s (139 MB/s)
E: Failed to fetch https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-signed-amd64/linux-image-6.1.0-14-amd64_6.1.64-1_amd64.deb  403  Access denied - broken package [IP: 2a04:4e42:65::644 443]
E: Failed to fetch https://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-signed-amd64/linux-image-amd64_6.1.64-1_amd64.deb  403  Access denied - broken package [IP: 2a04:4e42:65::644 443]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
  • amjamj Member

    It seems to be related with the issue:
    https://micronews.debian.org/2023/1702150551.html

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • nick_nick_ Member

    Yeah, better not update Debian to a new version for the time being.

    Thanked by 1hyperblast
  • SwordfishBESwordfishBE Member
    edited December 2023

    The bug is already fixed: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057843;msg=28

    Also for people who like to run te newest current kernel, you can check the Zabbly project by Stéphane Graber (Project leader of Linux Containers(@lxc) and Ubuntu core developer): https://github.com/zabbly/linux

    Thanked by 1nick_
  • totally_not_bannedtotally_not_banned Member
    edited December 2023

    Bookworm is shipping a kinda fucked version of xorg though. I was about to update to Bookworm (well really Devuan Daedalus but it's pretty much the same in this respect) some time ago and had to realize multi desktop usage was simply impossible and the only solution was to downgrade (or maybe build my own xorg packages which i feel is somewhat annoying). Guess after years of Debian going downhill it has finally become time to abandon ship (at least on desktop) towards some less stupidly modern or generally source based distribution.

  • ralfralf Member

    Also, it seems that /var/log/syslog has now been subsumed into journalctl in Debian 12 which I found quite annoying.

  • SwordfishBESwordfishBE Member

    @ralf said:
    Also, it seems that /var/log/syslog has now been subsumed into journalctl in Debian 12 which I found quite annoying.

    You can install rsyslog and you will have it back.

    Thanked by 2ralf chitree
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