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Hetzner is about to increase the price again

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  • @PHP_Friends said:
    Colocation in Germany (Hetzner) from 0,34 EUR to 0,53 EUR per kWh.

    Will you raise prices this year? :*

  • @tjn said:

    @default said:
    In UK it is so bad, many people started to organise in a refusal of paying energy bills due to high cost. Meanwhile Hetzner wishes to increase prices too. What could possibly go wrong?

    Yeah but that's because:

    That's nothing. Estonian gow owned electricity company made 518% profit last quarter while electricity prices went from ~€0.04 to ~0.15

    But but but Russia. But but but war.

  • miumiu Member

    @LTniger said:
    Buy servers in Sweden or Bulgaria. They have cheapest costs per megawat. Germany and its natural gas tragedy will hit you multiple times and more then 10%/6 months. Time to think about alternative locations.

    Yes, something quite expected, because idiots (or only traitors/saboteurs?) in EU Govs decided cancel Nuclear powerplants.

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  • @serv_ee said:
    That's what you get for forcing this "green" bullshit upon countries. Deal with it.

    no. that's what you get, when greedy european politicans, who where lobbingy for energy companys and also for russian interests, overslept the energy shift to greens. look over to france. how many nuclear power plants are down for now ? they need now energy from germany.

    look at https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1040619022000483

    It concludes that nuclear is no longer cost competitive with renewables. Worse, that nuclear is getting less cost competitive by the day.

    Further, that nuclear requires massive subsidies to even exist, while renewables no longer require subsidies. And that it takes far longer to build out a given amount of nuclear power generation as compared to renewables.

    New nuclear construction is no longer a cost competitive option against renewables. Not in monetary costs, not in carbon costs, not in capability, and not in time to market. This paper isn't providing a novel analysis. New nuclear construction has been been repeatedly demonstrated as a poor use of resources.

    This doesn't mean existing nuclear plants should be shuttered. It does mean that new nuclear construction is no longer viable.

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  • miumiu Member
    edited August 2022

    And i am pretty curious what will now "eat" their new age "electric" battery cars?? Soon you will can park them in garage only, like quite expensive toys, that will be all.
    Electricity - gone ("ohh, bad bad Nuclear powerplants")
    Petrol and Oil - gone ("Pls more sanctions and sanctions! bad Russia!!")
    Idiots have taken power in most countries
    Now too you are starting to see the first results of their great work
    But they are busy with & resolving more important things, as: Existence of 325 genders or rights to change gender every year, the maximum allowable curvature of the bananas and the ban on the sale of vacuum cleaners over 1600W, and similar..

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep
    edited August 2022

    @xx00xx said:
    look at https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1040619022000483

    It concludes that nuclear is no longer cost competitive with renewables. Worse, that nuclear is getting less cost competitive by the day.

    Further, that nuclear requires massive subsidies to even exist, while renewables no longer require subsidies. And that it takes far longer to build out a given amount of nuclear power generation as compared to renewables.

    New nuclear construction is no longer a cost competitive option against renewables. Not in monetary costs, not in carbon costs, not in capability, and not in time to market. This paper isn't providing a novel analysis. New nuclear construction has been been repeatedly demonstrated as a poor use of resources.

    This doesn't mean existing nuclear plants should be shuttered. It does mean that new nuclear construction is no longer viable.

    I haven't read the article in full but there's a key point which might be missed here -- cost per unit is only one factor. The authors seem to have dismissed nuclear for base load without providing any reasoning why.

    Nuclear provides a steady base capacity for the power grid. This is important, because most renewables are variable based on weather conditions. So the extra cost is probably worth it.

    We don't have much nuclear active currently in the UK, but you can see in the graphs that nuclear is a stable level while renewables vary significantly -- so that's useful for a base load. I suspect our pricing might have been lower if we had more nuclear involved. Instead, base load is covered by gas.
    https://gridwatch.co.uk/

  • miumiu Member

    @hostdare said:
    The only country that has got hit by sanctions is a combination of multiple European countries

    Not multiple, but ALL. In this idiotic associations called "European Union"

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  • If I haven’t received that email I’m assuming it’s not an increase for me?

  • reb0rnreb0rn Member
    edited August 2022

    putler and russia had this plan from 30y ago, make europe milk their resource for cheap then make them ply 10x more, its pure capitalist economy

    each state should deversified their energy from more source and not milk cheap russian only and killing the rest by paid KGB agents as shrader, german should deal with him and rest if they have a brain

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    @serv_ee said: That's what you get for forcing this "green" bullshit upon countries. Deal with it.

    And yet, it is the fossil fuel prices that got hiked by Putler. He didn't increase the price of the sun, the wind or the rain.

  • its a chain effect he did not but his managed to pump gas prices which some state use for producing energy so... but yeah its more greed and lies about electricity power should cost more....

  • I know this is a hosting forum, but server prices increase is the last thing I worry about.

    Even working people with families can barely afford food and living costs, everything goes up, yet salaries remain the same. You should be able to live properly with any fulltime job and not worry month-to-month.

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  • @drizbo said: You should be able to live properly with any fulltime job and not worry month-to-month.

    Define "live properly". Inflation and unexpected shit happen. Many industries took a huge hit in 2020-2021, while our mostly digital businesses barely noticed any change. Now with the fuel and
    general instability in the world, prices for everything are going up and it seems inevitable.
    If your fulltime job doesn't compensate for inflation, you either have very bad negotiation skills
    or very redundant unskilled job that anyone can take from day 1. I mean sorry but it is what it is.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited August 2022

    @drizbo said: You should be able to live properly with any fulltime job and not worry month-to-month.

    Yep.

    The power companies went cap in hand to be bailed out during covid, now they laugh at the high prices.

    UK is not even importing from Russia, why did they have the highest price hike? In Romania the prices for power increased 3 times butmine stayed exactly the same because I have switched to 100% renewables in January when Putler was already increasing the prices in order to prepare for the conquest.

    As long as EU will no longer subsidize fossil fuels, we will only have to endure a year, maybe two, then we will be free. Fossil fuel advocates are big on market prices, let the competition decide which is the cheapest energy source.

  • drizbodrizbo Member
    edited August 2022

    @luckypenguin said:

    @drizbo said: You should be able to live properly with any fulltime job and not worry month-to-month.

    Define "live properly". Inflation and unexpected shit happen. Many industries took a huge hit in 2020-2021, while our mostly digital businesses barely noticed any change. Now with the fuel and
    general instability in the world, prices for everything are going up and it seems inevitable.
    If your fulltime job doesn't compensate for inflation, you either have very bad negotiation skills
    or very redundant unskilled job that anyone can take from day 1. I mean sorry but it is what it is.

    So you are saying half the world should starve then? There is more than enough possiblities to feed everyone on the planet.

    This is the biggest bullshit, you are saying that cleaning women and similar cannot afford to live or sustain their child? Because their skills are not up your requirements for living a normal life?

    So these people should die or what?

  • @drizbo said: Because their skills are not up your requirements for living a normal life?

    My requirements or their requirements? I worked hard to have the quality of life I wanted.
    The only bullshit is your socialist ideas, that everyone should have a decent quality life no matter
    of what job they are doing, that's nonsense.

  • afnafn Member

    @Astro said: If I haven’t received that email I’m assuming it’s not an increase for me?

    No, assume it is in your junk/spam folder or that you will receive it later.

    @luckypenguin everyone who does some minimum effort, should be rewarded accordingly with minimum standard of living, therefore someone who works (and actually work) fulltime, should be able to live. Now someone who is more qualified (and spent time improving their skills), should be able to live better. But it doesn't mean the lower qualifications should die. We do agree on that, right?

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  • drizbodrizbo Member
    edited August 2022

    @luckypenguin said:

    @drizbo said: Because their skills are not up your requirements for living a normal life?

    My requirements or their requirements? I worked hard to have the quality of life I wanted.
    The only bullshit is your socialist ideas, that everyone should have a decent quality life no matter
    of what job they are doing, that's nonsense.

    If I say what I want to say I will get banned again.

    But you are an idiot if you think people who work every day should NOT have a decent life. Those are your words.

  • @afn said: But it doesn't mean the lower qualifications should die. We do agree on that, right?

    I never said anything remotely close to it. I'm just not a fan of socialist utopian claims such as
    "let's feed all the poor on the planet, they should have good life as well".

  • @hostdare said:
    The only country that has got hit by sanctions is a combination of multiple European countries

    there you go! I was wondering how long it would take you to bring that up. :)

  • @drizbo said: But you are an idiot if you think people who work every day should NOT have a decent life. Those are your words.

    You seem to have a problem reading. Point me to a sentence where I claimed it. I don't edit posts. Putting words in other people's mouths and then trying to make a counter point?

  • drizbodrizbo Member
    edited August 2022

    @luckypenguin said: everyone should have a decent quality life no matter of what job they are doing, that's nonsense.

    Right here. Its "nonsense" that everyone who has a fulltime job should be able to live decently. Those are your words

  • HarambeHarambe Member, Host Rep

    @drizbo said: This is the biggest bullshit, you are saying that cleaning women and similar cannot afford to live or sustain their child? Because their skills are not up your requirements for living a normal life?

    >

    "afford to live" by whose standards, exactly? A lot of people who complain about cost of living are trying to live in the most desirable spots with the highest rents.

    That's always the problem with these discussions. Everyone has different standards of living and life circumstances.

    I can't reasonably afford the city I was born in, I'd still be paycheck to paycheck - so I left family and friends to move somewhere much cheaper. Sometimes that's required to get ahead, and so few people are willing to do that nowadays - they just think they deserve a nice, cheap place wherever they want to live.


    Pulling this back on topic. Costs go up, that gets passed along to consumers, stop complaining and just scale down your idlers you filthy degens.

  • Personally I believe in socialism. A doctor should have similar salary with a person working in sewage cleaning the shit of the doctor. A programmer should have similar salary with a person who makes his potato chips to feed his imagination skills.

    But please note, this is just my opinion. We are all human beings, equal, even though we have different skills and ways of thinking towards our evolution.

  • I don't care about this price increase, it's just 10%. More worrying for me are their IP prices, still.

  • @serv_ee said:
    That's what you get for forcing this "green" bullshit upon countries. Deal with it.

    I know, right? If we just wait for the ice caps to melt, it's waterfalls and dams to the moon. /s

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  • @soulchief said:
    Need to open up some more data centers in Canada. Our electricity (hydro) is $0.09324 kwh here.

    Why isn't there more in Quebec?

  • DediRockDediRock Member, Patron Provider

    DediRock's prices will not be going up.

  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran
    edited August 2022

    @HostSlick said: We already have 0,43€/kwh at our home in Germany.
    So let's see as well.

    Some dutch friend got at home 0,58€/kwh

    Wow

    Where I currently live in the USA, it's around 17¢/kWh. It's above average for the USA, but below average for California. Back home in Australia it's around AU 22¢/kWh. In addition to that, there's a base fee that's charged per day. Let's see if it increases though. When I move to a new house, I'm going to try switch to solar. It's sunny most days here, but I'm currently renting an apartment so of course I can't install my own solar panels :)

  • @DediRock said:
    DediRock's prices will not be going up.

    Any chance you offer i7-8700 with 16TB disks for €40?

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