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Do providers normally charge to open ports?

AstroAstro Member

Got an email from virmach for a free migration. I was checking out the new site when I noticed they now charge for opening port 25 and even 80/443. Have never really seen a charge for that with other providers before.

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  • If it's a NAT VPS you basically pay for an additional IP.

  • AstroAstro Member

    @luckypenguin said:
    If it's a NAT VPS you basically pay for an additional IP.

    It’s not. It has a ipv4 included.

  • KousakaKousaka Member

    What the hell... this is definitely not a usual practice. 80/443 should never be blocked, and most unblock 25 after proper justification.

  • https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/#tab2

    LOL @ "$25 Administration Fees".
    I wouldn't touch such provider with a ten-foot pole.

  • tjntjn Member

    There's no mention of charging to open ports here - or my eyes aren't working :#
    Or does it just come under "Admin fees"

    @Astro you got a screen/paste of them wanting to charge you?

  • FrankZFrankZ Member
    edited June 22

    My understanding is that current customers will not be charged any fees to have open port 80/443.

    @VirMach said:
    So regarding port blocks, based on current feedback.

    • Existing customers should be exempt or have easily accessible self serve buttons to toggle the ports.
    • If we do decide to block by default, we'll send out an announcement email and 7 day notice, and describe how to use the above feature.
    • No additional fee for existing customers.
  • mimihostmimihost Member

    no should be included

  • Maybe a way to mitigate potential abuse on all those idle boxes with mail relays and wordpresses
    with weak/default passwords from copy+pasted tutorials :)

    Thanked by 1skorous
  • sotssots Member
    edited June 22

    The provider should not set up the firewalls blocking ports. If they do, then they should open the ports on receiving tickets without extra charges. If they charge for this, you should look for another provider.

  • Maybe Virmach is finally opening up a China location and the $5 would cover the admin fee for reviewing ICP recordals 😆

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited June 22
    Enable Webhost (Port 80/443)
    $5.00 USD One Time
    

    lol :D

    And now imagine that you're not from LET but ordinary customer who purchased vps from this random hosting company just to find out that basic functionality is crippled and you can't host a website without additional payment :)

    Thanked by 1kasodk
  • lirrrlirrr Member

    Now pay to unblock ssh port.

    Thanked by 2drizbo OhJohn
  • paijrutpaijrut Member

    Then another for udp 53.. and so on..

  • AdvinAdvin Member, Host Rep

    If they're charging fees to open port 80 or 443, then shame on them. If they're charging fees to open port 25, that's fine.

  • I can't believe it's true, but virmach offers powerful hardware at a bargain price

  • drizbodrizbo Member

    @lirrr said:
    Now pay to unblock ssh port.

    Dont give them ideas

    Thanked by 1OhJohn
  • kasodkkasodk Member
    edited June 22

    @fadedmaple said:
    I can't believe it's true, but virmach offers powerful hardware at a bargain price

    You mean bargain price excl. funny fees. :D

  • what in the actual summerhost we got going on here....

    the end is nigh.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    yoursunny summer host will never charge for opening ports on our IPv9 service, because IPv9 doesn't have the concept of ports to begin with.
    Instead of ports, you just use a different address for each service.
    It's same as telephone: you dial a different extension number for each desk.

    To deal with VirMach, customers can download cloudflared to host websites via Argo Tunnel.
    The web server makes outgoing connections to Cloudflare network, authenticated via certificates.
    This requires neither an open port nor a public IP address.

    Thanked by 1szymonp
  • LisoLiso Member

    @drizbo said:

    @lirrr said:
    Now pay to unblock ssh port.

    Dont give them ideas

    How would one access the machine then :D

  • DPDP Member, Moderator, The Domain Guy

    @Liso said:

    @drizbo said:

    @lirrr said:
    Now pay to unblock ssh port.

    Dont give them ideas

    How would one access the machine then :D

    Console all the way!

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • LisoLiso Member

    @DP said:

    @Liso said:

    @drizbo said:

    @lirrr said:
    Now pay to unblock ssh port.

    Dont give them ideas

    How would one access the machine then :D

    Console all the way!

    If virmach decided to gatekeep even most basic functionality, we're doomed then.

  • emghemgh Member

    @VirMach said he wanted to fly to each location and personally fix the servers.

    Plane tickets aren’t free.

    Thanked by 1ralf
  • ralfralf Member

    @emgh said:
    @VirMach said he wanted to fly to each location and personally fix the servers.

    Plane tickets aren’t free.

    Business class is approximately 1/4 of your userbase worth of opening port 443, I reckon.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • @luckypenguin said:
    https://virmach.com/terms-conditions/#tab2

    LOL @ "$25 Administration Fees".
    I wouldn't touch such provider with a ten-foot pole.

    Understandable, Touching someone with a ten-foot pole might be hard. especially if the pole is made of metal and is thick. Could be heavy and not worth the effort when you can easily touch them using your hands.

  • AnayxAnayx Member

    Is it even true ?
    I believe this host has tons of customers .

  • ralfralf Member

    @Anayx said:
    Is it even true ?
    I believe this host has tons of customers .

    He also has a lot of flights.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • szarkaszarka Member

    @Astro said:
    Got an email from virmach for a free migration. I was checking out the new site when I noticed they now charge for opening port 25 and even 80/443. Have never really seen a charge for that with other providers before.

    Never seen that, though I've definitely seen a ticket required to open port 25. But, TBH, I don't hate the idea, if it means that the IP range will be cleaner from fewer spammers and clueless people who opened relaying.

    Thanked by 1skorous
  • tjntjn Member

    That's ridiculous.
    I don't think I've ever seen a provider charge to unblock 80 and 443.
    What is it even supposed to achieve?
    If it's to combat spammers/fraudsters, they'll just run HTTP servers on different ports and put the port in their links.

    Unless they want everyone to use CloudFlare?

    Thanked by 2yoursunny Anayx
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