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  • kasodkkasodk Barred

    @Nekki said:
    Fuck OVH

    Yeah, they suck, and I just bought one.
    I guess I am addicted to cheap shit and bad service.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    You hunt for a unicorn...and when you find it, you get an anemic 11-year-old CPU.

    Thanked by 1Chuck
  • I can't pay now, it says didn't receive payment and I would like to buy one. Who's KS-1 is free now? Pm me pls, I would like to get one for 6$ via PayPal.

    Thanked by 1merlinvn
  • kasodkkasodk Barred
    edited June 2022

    @raindog308 said:
    You hunt for a unicorn...and when you find it, you get an anemic 11-year-old CPU.

    It is a 2 TB extra backup location and fine for app testing and uptime monitoring. But with my luck it will crash after 7 days.

    • 7 years and 7 months disk wear
    • 7 days response time on support tickets
    • Price €7/month incl. VAT and payment fees.

    :)

    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 091 091 000 Old_age Always - 66774

    Thanked by 2raindog308 Chuck
  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited June 2022

    @kasodk said:

    @raindog308 said:
    You hunt for a unicorn...and when you find it, you get an anemic 11-year-old CPU.

    It is a 2 TB extra backup location and fine for app testing and uptime monitoring. But with my luck it will crash after 7 days.

    • 7 years and 7 months disk wear
    • 7 days response time on support tickets
    • Price €7/month incl. VAT and payment fees.

    :)

    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 091 091 000 Old_age Always - 66774

    I don't get why you guys love that machines either.

    3.5euro/TB for non-replicated (one drive) backups? Lol. And then comes 100Mbps bandwidth, restoring something bigger will take long.

    App testing? Oracle Cloud always free x86 instance has 3x CPU power.
    Uptime monitoring? Hetrixtools or even GCP always free (1GB egress is enough).

    KS-01 is nice for seedbox, but not for things you mentioned. Waste of money and power at this point. I mean, you could just do "app testing" on 5 year Android phone from you drawer at this point, it will be faster.
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cuntubuntu&hl=en&gl=US

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited June 2022

    @AXYZE said: 3.5euro/TB for non-replicated (one drive) backups?

    Backup arguably doesn't need to be replicated or RAIDed, it is a backup after all. A second-third-nth copy of something already present elsewhere.

    @AXYZE said: Oracle Cloud always free x86 instance has 3x CPU power.

    That doesn't seem correct, in some quick testing it appears to be up to 2x slower instead, remember you only get 1/8 of the CPU core on that one.

    Regarding the KS, things to love are privacy due to the lack of someone being "root" above your VPS, who is able to stealthily clone and then examine all its content and your data.

    Secondly, OVH users can vouch that even though it is only 100 Mbit, you can use the bandwidth 24/7 with no slowdown or any limits or complaints from them.

    Finally, everything doesn't need to be the fastest possible, it can be just fast "enough". At one point I was hosting a few simple websites on the KS-1, and also on the first-version Kidechire's VIA CPU, which is "even slower". Using a lightweight stack in the form of plain-text DokuWiki and Lighttpd, nobody notices that the page is being generated in 0.15s, instead of 0.05s (or such). But since I am capped to about 6 page generations per second, I could only serve about half a million visitors per day on this, so it is certainly a limitation to keep in mind. :)

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @kasodk said:

    @raindog308 said:
    You hunt for a unicorn...and when you find it, you get an anemic 11-year-old CPU.

    It is a 2 TB extra backup location and fine for app testing and uptime monitoring. But with my luck it will crash after 7 days.

    • 7 years and 7 months disk wear
    • 7 days response time on support tickets
    • Price €7/month incl. VAT and payment fees.

    :)

    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 091 091 000 Old_age Always - 66774

    How the fuck do you manage to pay 7€ for a KS1?
    5.70€ is what I pay.

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member

    @rm_ said:

    @AXYZE said: 3.5euro/TB for non-replicated (one drive) backups?

    Backup arguably doesn't need to be replicated or RAIDed, it is a backup after all. A second-third-nth copy of something already present elsewhere.

    @AXYZE said: Oracle Cloud always free x86 instance has 3x CPU power.

    That doesn't seem correct, in some quick testing it appears to be up to 2x slower instead, remember you only get 1/8 of the CPU core on that one.

    Regarding the KS, things to love are privacy due to the lack of someone being "root" above your VPS, who is able to stealthily clone and then examine all its content and your data.

    Secondly, OVH users can vouch that even though it is only 100 Mbit, you can use the bandwidth 24/7 with no slowdown or any limits or complaints from them.

    Finally, everything doesn't need to be the fastest possible, it can be just fast "enough". At one point I was hosting a few simple websites on the KS-1, and also on the first-version Kidechire's VIA CPU, which is "even slower". Using a lightweight stack in the form of plain-text DokuWiki and Lighttpd, nobody notices that the page is being generated in 0.15s, instead of 0.05s (or such). But since I am capped to about 6 page generations per second, I could only serve about half a million visitors per day on this, so it is certainly a limitation to keep in mind. :)

    "That doesn't seem correct, in some quick testing it appears to be up to 2x slower instead"
    Atom N2800 with DDR3 is 2x faster? What "quick testing" have you done exactly?

    "1/8 of the CPU core on that one"
    No. Its 1/8 OCPU (Oracle CPU), not CPU core.

    Check Geekbench 5 result of slowest possible always free x86
    https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/15399929
    Its ~300 points single core. If its 1/8 of real core then it means that EPYC 7551 gets 2400 points single core. Does it? Ofc no, its more like 700-800. So you get more like 1/2 of "real core".
    Their naming (OCPU) is stupid as fuck, I know, but really you say that N2800 is 2x faster?
    https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-atom-n2800
    It barely gets 100 points single core.
    Keep in mind that 300 points is result of EPYC 7551, but you can also get AMD EPYC 7742 or AMD EPYC 7J13 - both are way faster.

  • ralfralf Member

    KS-1 gets 300 multi-core score. So they're about the same overall. It's still a nice little machine. My current one is coming up to 9 years in 5 weeks time. Never even had a power outage once.

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran
    edited June 2022

    @AXYZE said: What "quick testing" have you done exactly?

    Just my simple test:

    dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | md5sum

    101 MB/s on Oracle, and I remember it was around 175 MB/s on the N2800.

    @AXYZE said: Check Geekbench 5 result of slowest possible always free x86

    On that one, Oracle will benefit from having the hardware AES acceleration among other things, probably stuff such as the latest SSE, AVX etc, which N2800 might not have.

  • raindog308raindog308 Administrator, Veteran

    @rm_ didn't you used to have a hosting company that featured (or at least had) Atom dedis in EU...or am I confusing you with someone else...

  • rm_rm_ IPv6 Advocate, Veteran

    @raindog308 said: didn't you used to have a hosting company

    No, I never had (ran) a hosting company so far, if that's what you mean.

    that featured (or at least had) Atom dedis in EU...

    There's a number of those (if you mean smaller ones).

    Digicube.fr (might be defunct), FirstHeberg and Ikoula come to mind.

  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited June 2022

    @rm_ said:

    @AXYZE said: What "quick testing" have you done exactly?

    Just my simple test:

    dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | md5sum

    101 MB/s on Oracle, and I remember it was around 175 MB/s on the N2800.

    Very weird way to rate performance of CPU, but okay...

    Just tested it and I have ~500MB/s for 2core 3900X, 2core 2680v2, 4core Ampere A1. Lol.
    ~100MB/s on Oracle always free x86 indeed. And 15% CPU usage.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @AXYZE said:

    @rm_ said:

    @AXYZE said: What "quick testing" have you done exactly?

    Just my simple test:

    dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1024 | md5sum

    101 MB/s on Oracle, and I remember it was around 175 MB/s on the N2800.

    its higher, 182 to 196

    Thanked by 1rm_
  • kasodkkasodk Barred
    edited June 2022

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @raindog308 said:
    You hunt for a unicorn...and when you find it, you get an anemic 11-year-old CPU.

    It is a 2 TB extra backup location and fine for app testing and uptime monitoring. But with my luck it will crash after 7 days.

    • 7 years and 7 months disk wear
    • 7 days response time on support tickets
    • Price €7/month incl. VAT and payment fees.

    :)

    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 091 091 000 Old_age Always - 66774

    How the fuck do you manage to pay 7€ for a KS1?
    5.70€ is what I pay.

    Danish VAT is 25% and my bank takes a fee when I pay in €.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @kasodk said:

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @raindog308 said:
    You hunt for a unicorn...and when you find it, you get an anemic 11-year-old CPU.

    It is a 2 TB extra backup location and fine for app testing and uptime monitoring. But with my luck it will crash after 7 days.

    • 7 years and 7 months disk wear
    • 7 days response time on support tickets
    • Price €7/month incl. VAT and payment fees.

    :)

    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 091 091 000 Old_age Always - 66774

    How the fuck do you manage to pay 7€ for a KS1?
    5.70€ is what I pay.

    Danish VAT is 25% and my bank takes a fee when I pay i €.

    Pay in USD and change your Bank.

  • kasodkkasodk Barred

    @AXYZE said:

    @kasodk said:

    @raindog308 said:
    You hunt for a unicorn...and when you find it, you get an anemic 11-year-old CPU.

    It is a 2 TB extra backup location and fine for app testing and uptime monitoring. But with my luck it will crash after 7 days.

    • 7 years and 7 months disk wear
    • 7 days response time on support tickets
    • Price €7/month incl. VAT and payment fees.

    :)

    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 091 091 000 Old_age Always - 66774

    I don't get why you guys love that machines either.

    3.5euro/TB for non-replicated (one drive) backups? Lol. And then comes 100Mbps bandwidth, restoring something bigger will take long.

    App testing? Oracle Cloud always free x86 instance has 3x CPU power.
    Uptime monitoring? Hetrixtools or even GCP always free (1GB egress is enough).

    KS-01 is nice for seedbox, but not for things you mentioned. Waste of money and power at this point. I mean, you could just do "app testing" on 5 year Android phone from you drawer at this point, it will be faster.
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cuntubuntu&hl=en&gl=US

    I am talking about my own Django Web Apps and python script etc.
    The uptime monitoring is my own software project, and i need multiple instances for testing. Running test on a phone or a small screen don't giv any sence.
    It is a little funny that I have to defend I spent €7.
    It is the price of 2 cheap cups of coffee.
    :D

  • kasodkkasodk Barred
    edited June 2022

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @raindog308 said:
    You hunt for a unicorn...and when you find it, you get an anemic 11-year-old CPU.

    It is a 2 TB extra backup location and fine for app testing and uptime monitoring. But with my luck it will crash after 7 days.

    • 7 years and 7 months disk wear
    • 7 days response time on support tickets
    • Price €7/month incl. VAT and payment fees.

    :)

    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 091 091 000 Old_age Always - 66774

    How the fuck do you manage to pay 7€ for a KS1?
    5.70€ is what I pay.

    Danish VAT is 25% and my bank takes a fee when I pay i €.

    Pay in USD and change your Bank.

    It costs both time and money to change to another bank in Western Europe countries. And "cheap" banks don't exist in Denmark.
    Paying in $ doesn't change anything, and I will not create a fake hosting account to save €1 in VAT. :)

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @kasodk said:

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @raindog308 said:
    You hunt for a unicorn...and when you find it, you get an anemic 11-year-old CPU.

    It is a 2 TB extra backup location and fine for app testing and uptime monitoring. But with my luck it will crash after 7 days.

    • 7 years and 7 months disk wear
    • 7 days response time on support tickets
    • Price €7/month incl. VAT and payment fees.

    :)

    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 091 091 000 Old_age Always - 66774

    How the fuck do you manage to pay 7€ for a KS1?
    5.70€ is what I pay.

    Danish VAT is 25% and my bank takes a fee when I pay i €.

    Pay in USD and change your Bank.

    It costs both time and money to change to another bank in Western Europe countries. And "cheap" banks don't exist in Denmark.
    Paying in $ doesn't change anything, and I will not create a fake hosting account to save €1 in VAT. :)

    fake hosting account, what?

    Anyone can get a USD World account.
    Anyone can get a Revolut card for free.

    Excuses.

  • kasodkkasodk Barred

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @raindog308 said:
    You hunt for a unicorn...and when you find it, you get an anemic 11-year-old CPU.

    It is a 2 TB extra backup location and fine for app testing and uptime monitoring. But with my luck it will crash after 7 days.

    • 7 years and 7 months disk wear
    • 7 days response time on support tickets
    • Price €7/month incl. VAT and payment fees.

    :)

    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 091 091 000 Old_age Always - 66774

    How the fuck do you manage to pay 7€ for a KS1?
    5.70€ is what I pay.

    Danish VAT is 25% and my bank takes a fee when I pay i €.

    Pay in USD and change your Bank.

    It costs both time and money to change to another bank in Western Europe countries. And "cheap" banks don't exist in Denmark.
    Paying in $ doesn't change anything, and I will not create a fake hosting account to save €1 in VAT. :)

    fake hosting account, what?

    Anyone can get a USD World account.
    Anyone can get a Revolut card for free.

    Excuses.

    Revolut charges an exchange fee and is most likely making money on the exchange rate. And they are famous in Denmark for suspending accounts without any explanation and keeping the money. And for transactions that disappear.
    Anyway, it is a fucking waste of time because of one euro.
    And I am happy to use a real bank.

  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    @kasodk said:

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @Neoon said:

    @kasodk said:

    @raindog308 said:
    You hunt for a unicorn...and when you find it, you get an anemic 11-year-old CPU.

    It is a 2 TB extra backup location and fine for app testing and uptime monitoring. But with my luck it will crash after 7 days.

    • 7 years and 7 months disk wear
    • 7 days response time on support tickets
    • Price €7/month incl. VAT and payment fees.

    :)

    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 091 091 000 Old_age Always - 66774

    How the fuck do you manage to pay 7€ for a KS1?
    5.70€ is what I pay.

    Danish VAT is 25% and my bank takes a fee when I pay i €.

    Pay in USD and change your Bank.

    It costs both time and money to change to another bank in Western Europe countries. And "cheap" banks don't exist in Denmark.
    Paying in $ doesn't change anything, and I will not create a fake hosting account to save €1 in VAT. :)

    fake hosting account, what?

    Anyone can get a USD World account.
    Anyone can get a Revolut card for free.

    Excuses.

    Revolut charges an exchange fee and is most likely making money on the exchange rate. And they are famous in Denmark for suspending accounts without any explanation and keeping the money. And for transactions that disappear.
    Anyway, it is a fucking waste of time because of one euro.
    And I am happy to use a real bank.

    "All of our plans allow you to make at least €1,000 of exchange per month without an exchange fair usage fee"

    Whatever.

  • If who don't want it anymore, see my last thread.

  • yongsikleeyongsiklee Member, Patron Provider

    @FrankRuan said:
    If who don't want it anymore, see my last thread.

    I can't (won't try to) find your last thread. Please, provide us with the link.
    Thank you.

  • VoidVoid Member

    @FrankRuan said:
    I can't pay now, it says didn't receive payment and I would like to buy one. Who's KS-1 is free now? Pm me pls, I would like to get one for 6$ via PayPal.

    It’s available now, got get asap

  • I've had my old Atom server with Kimsufi for over 9 years now. Just checked

    Power On Hours - 82963

    Is that a record ??

  • loayloay Member

    @Bob_v2 said: It's back....

    Just got one, thanks!

  • Just got one myself and ended up with a 2TB drive. 49837 hours on it.

  • Not bad for €4.99 year.

  • @Vextro said:
    Just got one myself and ended up with a 2TB drive. 49837 hours on it.

    Hi,

    When you the order the below plan, it gave 2 TB disk?

    Thanks!

    CPU : Intel ATOM N2800 - 2c/4t - 1.86 GHz/1.86 GHz
    Memory : 4 GB DDR3
    Storage : 1 x 1 TB HDD SATA none
    Public bandwidth : 100 Mbps
    Availability:
    €4.99
    ex. VAT/month
    Installation fees: €4.99 ex. VAT

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