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Hetzner kicks out Ukraine website from their service.

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  • @Goodtesteronline said:
    I got fake DMCA and Hetzner still decided to cancel my service. Hetzner is risk adversed. Also, Germany hate Ukrainian war, not because of caring for Ukrainian people but the Germany economy. It rises the energy cost, and directly affect Hetzner bottom line. So it win-win for Hetzner.

    Germany steal Russia oligarch yatchs, but still want to trade energy with Russia,. wtf what that? it is so hypocritical.

    I ran an image hosting service and someone uploaded child porn images and reported to hetzner, they gave me an hour or nullroute, removed it and everything was fine.

  • @Ahfaiahkid said:

    @Goodtesteronline said:
    I got fake DMCA and Hetzner still decided to cancel my service. Hetzner is risk adversed. Also, Germany hate Ukrainian war, not because of caring for Ukrainian people but the Germany economy. It rises the energy cost, and directly affect Hetzner bottom line. So it win-win for Hetzner.

    Germany steal Russia oligarch yatchs, but still want to trade energy with Russia,. wtf what that? it is so hypocritical.

    I ran an image hosting service and someone uploaded child porn images and reported to hetzner, they gave me an hour or nullroute, removed it and everything was fine.

    Yeah. My, website is in gray area, but it received no real dmca reports, only some fake one.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @Maounique

    Sorry but I consider you disqualified because (a) you are a vicious Russia hater, and (b) my remark above was neither pro nor anti Russia or Ukraine. The title is plain wrong that's a verifiable fact and spiegel.de has frequently lied and pushed propaganda and false info, that's widely known.

  • JasonMJasonM Member
    edited March 2022

    @Goodtesteronline said: I got fake DMCA and Hetzner still decided to cancel my service

    yeah! I've read it many times on Internet... Hetzner just asks to remove the site concerned or entirely cancel the service/server. Did you found some better, reliable host?

    hetzner ukraine buyvm racknerd germany

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited March 2022

    @JasonM said:

    @Goodtesteronline said: I got fake DMCA and Hetzner still decided to cancel my service

    yeah! I've read it many times on Internet... Hetzner just asks to remove the site concerned or entirely cancel the service/server. Did you found some better, reliable host?

    Not Hetzner-specific. Many providers act like that.

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • @JasonM said:

    @Goodtesteronline said: I got fake DMCA and Hetzner still decided to cancel my service

    yeah! I've read it many times on Internet... Hetzner just asks to remove the site concerned or entirely cancel the service/server. Did you found some better, reliable host?

    :)

    Digital Ocean, Linode, Contabo and I have little issues with fake dmca

    Thanked by 2JasonM cybertech
  • ChrisMillerChrisMiller Member
    edited March 2022

    oooh boi Drama!

    @Hetzner_OL

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • cybertechcybertech Member
    edited March 2022

    @Maounique said:

    @cybertech said: i think hetzner is risk averse.

    What risk? DDoS?

    legal and compliance. nothing wrong but better to be clear on the target customer segment.

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • @Goodtesteronline said: It rises the energy cost, and directly affect Hetzner bottom line. So it win-win for Hetzner.

    So are you saying.... server price might increase again....???

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited March 2022

    @jsg said: Sorry but I consider you disqualified

    Of course you do, because you don't like what I say. This is how disinformation works, if you get people to attack the person instead of checking the data, you win.
    In order to know who is the liar here, you should start with your oracle's declarations that he never intended to attack Ukraine and even withdrew troops from the border when weeks ago he had to temporarily back down at Xi's request which didn't want world attention to be focused away from the olympics, which literally bogged down a lot of tanks in the thawed mud because he missed the perfect conditions. If he didn't delay, his convoys would not be stranded on roads now. They obviously planned the invasion banking on the frozen soil. Putin might be king in Kremlin, but he is Xi's vassal, the same way Kadirov is his vasal. We have a feudal system here with the top dog in Beijing. He doesn't give a fuck for the life of his vassal's soldiers, he put his show in Beijing above the life of tens of thousands of russians which will be lost until the soil is dry enough so Putin's "modern" army is able to navigate the "complicated" flat Ukrainian plains.

  • LeviLevi Member
    edited March 2022

    @nanankcornering said: So are you saying.... server price might increase again....???

    Of course that's rhetorical question. There is [zero (0), null, void, nill] doubts that service providers will increase prices this year. Even few times. All of this to mitigate "unbearable rise of energy costs".

    This is perfect chance to bank on, so business will not skip it.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited March 2022

    @Maounique

    Disqualified -> no discussion.

    Have a nice day

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep
    edited March 2022

    @jsg said:
    @Maounique

    Disqualified -> no discussion.

    Have a nice day

    Speaking of disqualified, you listed a whole bunch of news agencies that you don't trust. Which ones do you trust? If none, where do you get your information from?

  • pedagangpedagang Member
    edited March 2022

    so is it prove
    propaganda against hetzner ...

  • edited March 2022

    @jackb said:

    @jsg said:
    @Maounique

    Disqualified -> no discussion.

    Have a nice day

    Speaking of disqualified, you listed a whole bunch of news agencies that you don't trust. Which ones do you trust? If none, where do you get your information from?

    Listen to small and alternative media. All major news are untrustworthy (propaganda machine), but you can heard both side story and draw your own conclusion. For example, listen RT Sputnik talking about Iraq, Lybia wars there will be a lot of trusts in it. Or Listen to CNN, Fox on Russian Oligarch, there will also some trust in it.

    There are 3 important points (framework) to detect bullshit: economy impacts (oils, US reserved currency, trade war), geopolitics (defends, military), what the elites want (income distrubution, socialism vs capitalism).

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  • @MGarbis said:

    @rivage said:

    @lentro said:
    Seems like there was a Ukranian govt server on Hetzner:

    Just because a Ukrainian government server existed on Hetzner doesn't mean it was the alleged one behind war.ukraine.ua. This isn't evidence of much of anything, really.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ohader/status/1500976063916167175

    Serhii replies and confirms it was the source node.

    Whois Serhii?

    does he have anything to say? is he an official person who is allowed to represent ukraine in this question to the outside world? or is he just a worm who is trying to make himself important?

  • @jsg said:
    @Maounique

    Disqualified -> no discussion.

    Have a nice day

    Anyone who dismisses others as "disqualified" for no apparent reason has put himself on the sidelines. Bad style, paired with western hypermoral green-socialist arrogance. it makes you want to puke.

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  • @hyperblast said: Whois Serhii?

    His twitter posts suggest another guy saying same thing about hetzner, so maybe the team behind the website.
    Hetzner history does suggest it is quite easy to get your account disabled, maybe the russians did that ;)

    Thanked by 1MGarbis
  • @cadddr said:

    @hyperblast said: Whois Serhii?

    His twitter posts suggest another guy saying same thing about hetzner, so maybe the team behind the website.
    Hetzner history does suggest it is quite easy to get your account disabled, maybe the russians did that ;)

    Nevertheless, the question is in whose name this Serhii speaks and accuses.

  • Not surprised, Politically exposed person.

  • jackbjackb Member, Host Rep
    edited March 2022

    @Goodtesteronline said:
    Listen to small and alternative media. All major news are untrustworthy (propaganda machine), but you can heard both side story and draw your own conclusion. For example, listen RT Sputnik talking about Iraq, Lybia wars there will be a lot of trusts in it. Or Listen to CNN, Fox on Russian Oligarch, there will also some trust in it.

    There are 3 important points (framework) to detect bullshit: economy impacts (oils, US reserved currency, trade war), geopolitics (defends, military), what the elites want (income distrubution, socialism vs capitalism).

    Oh I know about checking both sides of a story to draw your own conclusions -- my point really was @jsg is dismissing "western" media as fake news; and I'm wondering what sources he actually views as remotely reliable.

    I've asked him a few times to provide sources RE: claims he's made about violence against Russians in Donbass, and so far he's come back with zilch.

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  • FritzFritz Veteran

    The king of drama is doing his actions again.

  • @Goodtesteronline said: Germany steal Russia oligarch yatchs, but still want to trade energy with Russia,. wtf what that?

    Seems they just cares about their people, more than about politics. They was first who make phone call to Putin directly and ask him to explain situation.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @hyperblast said:

    @jsg said:
    @Maounique

    Disqualified -> no discussion.

    Have a nice day

    Anyone who dismisses others as "disqualified" for no apparent reason has put himself on the sidelines. Bad style, paired with western hypermoral green-socialist arrogance. it makes you want to puke.

    Once you are done puking theatrically, practice, practice, practice! Maybe the day will come when you are not light-years off the mark ...

    Meanwhile kindly accept that I'm free to choose with whom I talk and about what ;)

  • ArkasArkas Moderator

    @jar said: I was gonna say third strike for Germany but I guess it's a misunderstanding so now I have nowhere to unload my "Germany has an obligation to start WW3 for consistency" jokes

    Don't worry, we are very traditional and left to our own devices, we will.

    Thanked by 2jar that_guy
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member
    edited March 2022

    @jsg said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @jsg said:
    @Maounique

    Disqualified -> no discussion.

    Have a nice day

    Anyone who dismisses others as "disqualified" for no apparent reason has put himself on the sidelines. Bad style, paired with western hypermoral green-socialist arrogance. it makes you want to puke.

    Once you are done puking theatrically, practice, practice, practice! Maybe the day will come when you are not light-years off the mark ...

    Meanwhile kindly accept that I'm free to choose with whom I talk and about what ;)

    you can talk with whom and about what you want, that is up to you. you can also tell your strange stories to a house wall, that does not interest me.

    however, you have no right to deny others the right to their opinions and views or exclude them from discussions by unilaterally stating that someone is supposedly disqualified.

    have a nice day.

    Thanked by 1vovler
  • turdskiturdski Member
    edited March 2022

    @jackb said:

    @Goodtesteronline said:
    Listen to small and alternative media. All major news are untrustworthy (propaganda machine), but you can heard both side story and draw your own conclusion. For example, listen RT Sputnik talking about Iraq, Lybia wars there will be a lot of trusts in it. Or Listen to CNN, Fox on Russian Oligarch, there will also some trust in it.

    There are 3 important points (framework) to detect bullshit: economy impacts (oils, US reserved currency, trade war), geopolitics (defends, military), what the elites want (income distrubution, socialism vs capitalism).

    Oh I know about checking both sides of a story to draw your own conclusions -- my point really was @jsg is dismissing "western" media as fake news; and I'm wondering what sources he actually views as remotely reliable.

    I've asked him a few times to provide sources RE: claims he's made about violence against Russians in Donbass, and so far he's come back with zilch.

    He is Russian. He gets his news from the "trustworthy" and "independent" news channels in Russia.

    Last Friday, they made new law in Russia: Journalists disseminating information that the Russian authorities claim is false risks imprisonment for up to three years. And if the "false" information is judged to have serious consequences, the penalty can increase to 15 years in prison.

    And since they also are blocking western media in Russia, the proud Russians only have "real" news.

  • vbavba Member

    @Goodtesteronline said:

    @JasonM said:

    @Goodtesteronline said: I got fake DMCA and Hetzner still decided to cancel my service

    yeah! I've read it many times on Internet... Hetzner just asks to remove the site concerned or entirely cancel the service/server. Did you found some better, reliable host?

    :)

    Digital Ocean, Linode, Contabo and I have little issues with fake dmca

    Cloudflare received fake dmca reports and they took down
    the reported url. fake dmca become tool to take down competitor now

    Thanked by 1JasonM
  • @turdski said: And since they also are blocking western media in Russia, the proud Russians only have "real" news.

    Why you think only western media provide real news? They use bunch of opposite lies on practice if trying to check out their information.

  • both sides are lying. anyone who believes otherwise is very naive.

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