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  • rustelekomrustelekom Member, Patron Provider

    Hetzner, like any other company in the world, has to maintain its margins according to its requirements. It is normal for a customer to walk away from a supplier that does not meet their requirements. So it's no big deal, business as usual.
    Perhaps you just don't need to announce your disappointment to the world with such pathos.

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  • The cost of wholesale electricity has increased. These costs will be passed on by the majority of legit sustainable cloud providers.

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @hyperblast said: due to an insane green socialist ideology.

    Which is retarded if you think about it given how clean nuclear is.

    Instead they'll now buy a bunch of oil from countries that hate them. I guess it's OK because all the environmental damage happens out of sight, out of mind.

    Francisco

  • @hyperblast said:

    @DanSummer said:

    @hyperblast said:
    in germany, electricity prices will rise much more in the medium term. so please look for a supplier in a modern country that uses nuclear power. in the (ever)green new germany, the lights will soon go out.

    That's some ignorant rant. Cost of 1 megawatt of natural gas went from less than 20€ in 2020 to 130€ at the end of 2022. About 25% of European electricity comes from natural gas and another 35% from petroleum.

    Be that as it may, a not inconsiderable share comes from clean nuclear energy. Sooner or later, however, the lights will go out first in germany and then in the entire eu (unlike europe), due to an insane green socialist ideology.

    "Socialist ideology" you say? Quite strange you want the provider to keep subsidizing the server out of pocket. :smile:

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  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    Mainland Chinese are simultaniously the best and worst customers you could have.

    As a provider based in Hong Kong, a significant portion of our business comes from China. A majority of them are just like customers from anywhere else in the world. ~65% or so are just your typical consumer, with no issues, normal use case, and perfectly acceptable. 10% are excellent, being customers with special needs, but are willing to pay a good price to get it. Low maintenance with high revenue, and high loyalty. But then you have the remaining 25%, who believe they are entitled to everything for free. Those are the customers who sign up to a NAT service with 1TB traffic, and expect to recieve a dedicated IP with 1Tbit/s of dedicated bandwidth, for which they should be able to use it all on their home 100Mbit broadband.

    Those 25% make it difficult sometimes to justify serving the 75%.

  • @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said: due to an insane green socialist ideology.

    Which is retarded if you think about it given how clean nuclear is.

    Instead they'll now buy a bunch of oil from countries that hate them. I guess it's OK because all the environmental damage happens out of sight, out of mind.

    Francisco

    that's how it is. at least in germany it is often enough like that. hypermoral, green socialist but basically just sick, inhuman ideology. besides, in germany and the eu they think they can regulate everything with money.

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  • @DanSummer said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @DanSummer said:

    @hyperblast said:
    in germany, electricity prices will rise much more in the medium term. so please look for a supplier in a modern country that uses nuclear power. in the (ever)green new germany, the lights will soon go out.

    That's some ignorant rant. Cost of 1 megawatt of natural gas went from less than 20€ in 2020 to 130€ at the end of 2022. About 25% of European electricity comes from natural gas and another 35% from petroleum.

    Be that as it may, a not inconsiderable share comes from clean nuclear energy. Sooner or later, however, the lights will go out first in germany and then in the entire eu (unlike europe), due to an insane green socialist ideology.

    "Socialist ideology" you say? Quite strange you want the provider to keep subsidizing the server out of pocket. :smile:

    You have not understood my argument. the fact that electricity prices in germany are rising so sharply is due to the fact that the green socialists are now in power. and they will impose their ideology with all their might.

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  • Did i miss something? Was there another price increase besides IP ?

  • @hyperblast said:

    @DanSummer said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @DanSummer said:

    @hyperblast said:
    in germany, electricity prices will rise much more in the medium term. so please look for a supplier in a modern country that uses nuclear power. in the (ever)green new germany, the lights will soon go out.

    That's some ignorant rant. Cost of 1 megawatt of natural gas went from less than 20€ in 2020 to 130€ at the end of 2022. About 25% of European electricity comes from natural gas and another 35% from petroleum.

    Be that as it may, a not inconsiderable share comes from clean nuclear energy. Sooner or later, however, the lights will go out first in germany and then in the entire eu (unlike europe), due to an insane green socialist ideology.

    "Socialist ideology" you say? Quite strange you want the provider to keep subsidizing the server out of pocket. :smile:

    You have not understood my argument. the fact that electricity prices in germany are rising so sharply is due to the fact that the green socialists are now in power. and they will impose their ideology with all their might.

    Man! when did the green socialists came to power? what month or year? Let's start with that.

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  • fLoofLoo Member
    edited January 2022

    Nvm. I just found it in their forums. All SB Servers price increased up to 40 %. I'm happy that i began transferring all my stuff back to OVH. I really loved Hetzner. But yea. IP-Pricing + another increase for electricity? We're at OVH pricing now and they got DDoS-Protection and a better network.

  • Shot2Shot2 Member
    edited January 2022

    @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said: due to an insane green socialist ideology.

    Which is retarded if you think about it given how clean nuclear is.

    Instead they'll now buy a bunch of oil from countries that hate them. I guess it's OK because all the environmental damage happens out of sight, out of mind.

    Francisco

    Hey, you're not in the cest pit, neither are you an environmental scientist - quit ridiculing yourself ;)

    @hyperblast said:
    You have not understood my argument. the fact that electricity prices in germany are rising so sharply is due to the fact that the green socialists are now in power. and they will impose their ideology with all their might.

    In case you haven't followed the news, electricity and oil prices also rise sharply in the neighboring Baguetteland - well known for its (quite obsolete) nuclear industry and "green socialist" Macron government (lol). But yeah, better host with Scaleway/Online than Hetzner. Oh wait, they just price-hiked (again) their products 3 weeks ago. Vive la France

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited January 2022

    Have you guys ever shopped for groceries at all? Too PMSing for dat?

    Since Covid, general price has gone up at least 50%, in some cases over 150%.

    Try not shopping for food.

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  • @Shot2 said:

    @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said: due to an insane green socialist ideology.

    Which is retarded if you think about it given how clean nuclear is.

    Instead they'll now buy a bunch of oil from countries that hate them. I guess it's OK because all the environmental damage happens out of sight, out of mind.

    Francisco

    Hey, you're not in the cest pit, neither are you an environmental scientist - quit ridiculing yourself ;)

    @hyperblast said:
    You have not understood my argument. the fact that electricity prices in germany are rising so sharply is due to the fact that the green socialists are now in power. and they will impose their ideology with all their might.

    In case you haven't followed the news, electricity and oil prices also rise sharply in the neighboring Baguetteland - well known for its (quite obsolete) nuclear industry and "green socialist" Macron government (lol). But yeah, better host with Scaleway/Online than Hetzner. Oh wait, they just price-hiked (again) their products 3 weeks ago. Vive la France

    Exactly! Over 70% of France electricity comes from nuclear, and yet, electricity price is going up too.

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  • NeoonNeoon Community Contributor, Veteran

    Bye MJJJJ.

  • @xiaopigu said:
    Will your prices go down in the future when the price of electricity goes down?

    Yes, promised! As soon as THE PRICE OF ELECTRICITY GOES D O W N ... IN GERMANY 🤣

    (Sorry for this useless post, but this was the only really funny thing I've heard today.)

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  • edited January 2022

    @randvegeta said: Those 25% make it difficult sometimes to justify serving the 75%.

    Is this the case with any other country besides China? Always going to have bad apples mixed in with the good apples.

  • @EasyCompany251 said:

    @randvegeta said: Those 25% make it difficult sometimes to justify serving the 75%.

    Is this the case with any other country besides China? Always going to have bad apples mixed in with the good apples.

    Dumb equivocation again, if he thinks Chinese are annoying twats, it's his rights to reject those locusts

  • randvegetarandvegeta Member, Host Rep

    @EasyCompany251 said:

    @randvegeta said: Those 25% make it difficult sometimes to justify serving the 75%.

    Is this the case with any other country besides China? Always going to have bad apples mixed in with the good apples.

    Of course. Every country has this problem, but the ratios differ.

    There's definitely a cultural aspect to things, which I've noticed. Probably due to my own cultural biases, I find it easiest to deal with US, UK and HK customers. The group that comprise the 65% in China make up more like 85% in my culturally biased countries.

    Lithuanian customers are problematic... as are Germans... Again... I mean that relatively speaking. The vast majority are perfectly fine, but I expect a higher proportion of them to be problematic than US/UK/HK customers. And again, it's probably cultural.

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  • Thanks for your bye. Your cancelation fee has been doubled.

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  • Too many politicians here.BBC needs you guys.And one more thing,I hope you will deal with the matter on its own merits.Why do you always elevate the affairs of one person to the affairs of the Chinese?Since I joined in this community,I have saw a lot here.No more politicians here plz.

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  • fortunately, you can express a little bit of politics here without being locked away. so you can wish whatever you like, but you also have to put up with other people expressing themselves politically. @Franzkafka

  • ericlsericls Member, Patron Provider

    I'll continue to use hetzner, heck I still want to buy their stock. They still have a strong position in the market.

  • @Franzkafka said:
    BBC needs you guys.

    No. CGTN needs you guys including OP.
    FYI There's a storyteller campaign that suits you perfectly well
    We've had enough stories, dramas from MJJs. Here's where you belong.

    https://cgtn.com/mediachallengers.html
    https://news.cgtn.com/event/2021/themediachallengers/application.html

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  • foitinfoitin Member
    edited January 2022

    @ask_seek_knock said:

    Obviously, OP's language is Mandarin, which is often used for wolf-warrior diplomacy.

    Or wolf wanker as we call it. Google 'wolf wanker' and check out first few hits. :)

    @xiaopigu said: Babe,I don't even need to go support Chinese companies. Because they already have you to support. If you don't want to support Chinese companies, then please take your underwear and socks off immediately and go bathe in the river to wash your body and mind.

    He is not you babe, friend. B)

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  • This is the price that we have to pay when saving the earth.

  • The world is being split into three major blocs, the green save the earth movement in europe, the capitalist war industry in the usa & the red communist cum capitalist xi dynasty.

  • skorupionskorupion Member, Host Rep

    @Ahfaiahkid said:
    The world is being split into three major blocs, the green save the earth movement in europe, the capitalist war industry in the usa & the red communist cum capitalist xi dynasty.

    & russian war

  • PulsedMediaPulsedMedia Member, Patron Provider

    @DanSummer said:

    @Shot2 said:

    @Francisco said:

    @hyperblast said: due to an insane green socialist ideology.

    Which is retarded if you think about it given how clean nuclear is.

    Instead they'll now buy a bunch of oil from countries that hate them. I guess it's OK because all the environmental damage happens out of sight, out of mind.

    Francisco

    Hey, you're not in the cest pit, neither are you an environmental scientist - quit ridiculing yourself ;)

    @hyperblast said:
    You have not understood my argument. the fact that electricity prices in germany are rising so sharply is due to the fact that the green socialists are now in power. and they will impose their ideology with all their might.

    In case you haven't followed the news, electricity and oil prices also rise sharply in the neighboring Baguetteland - well known for its (quite obsolete) nuclear industry and "green socialist" Macron government (lol). But yeah, better host with Scaleway/Online than Hetzner. Oh wait, they just price-hiked (again) their products 3 weeks ago. Vive la France

    Exactly! Over 70% of France electricity comes from nuclear, and yet, electricity price is going up too.

    Perhaps they are selling so much electricity abroad to those green socialist moron states? EU electric grid is connected, all countries buy and sell, thus one country skyrocketing prices will increase price on another too.

  • well... as a fin, you can talk smart because electricity prices in finland are sensationally low compared to germany!
    And the electricity certainly flows pretty quickly from Loviisa to Kerava. :)

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  • @Ahfaiahkid

    i like your profile image

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