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Need Dedicated Server

Ryzen 5 or higher
64 GB DDR4 Ram
Minimum 1TB NVME SSD
10GBPS Port Speed

Currently using terrahost at 80$ per month.

Reason to move, terrahost performance issue.

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  • @DataBuster said: Reason to move, terrahost performance issue.

    What kind of performance issue are you facing with TerraHost?

  • Constant 10gbps needed or burst?

  • @allthemtings said:
    Constant 10gbps needed or burst?

    Constant

  • henixhenix Member

    You better have a big budget for this

    Thanked by 2lentro PulsedMedia
  • TeoMTeoM Member

    @DataBuster said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Constant 10gbps needed or burst?

    Constant

    What You are doing with constant 10gbs ?

  • @DataBuster said:

    @allthemtings said:
    Constant 10gbps needed or burst?

    Constant

    no way in hell you have a constant (24/7) 10GBPS Port Speed for $80 per mo

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  • ankeshankesh Member

    U sure its a Ryzen 5 with 10Gbps uplink??? at 80$.... Man, if it is, Can you not cancel and give it to me?

  • HostSlickHostSlick Member, Provider
    edited January 8

    @ankesh said:
    U sure its a Ryzen 5 with 10Gbps uplink??? at 80$.... Man, if it is, Can you not cancel and give it to me?

    https://terrahost.no/bestilling?pid=3677

    Seems to be this config he's having.

    Maybe he got a Special offer.
    May ask @terrahost

  • terrahostterrahost Member, Provider

    Probably one of our bankrupt deals (BF) :) But you shouldn't have any performance issues. Please get in touch via a ticket so that we can resolve it for you!

  • @ankesh said:
    U sure its a Ryzen 5 with 10Gbps uplink??? at 80$.... Man, if it is, Can you not cancel and give it to me?

    It is unmetered bandwidth in that plan, not unlimited
    big difference

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  • TamerciagaTamerciaga Member
    edited January 8

    @dev_vps said:

    @ankesh said:
    U sure its a Ryzen 5 with 10Gbps uplink??? at 80$.... Man, if it is, Can you not cancel and give it to me?

    It is unmetered bandwidth in that plan, not unlimited
    big difference

    So what is the difference? They practically both mean that you can utilize the full 10G up-link.

    Pretty good deal btw, wish I could get such cheap transit :smile:

    Thanked by 2ankesh PulsedMedia
  • @Tamerciaga said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @ankesh said:
    U sure its a Ryzen 5 with 10Gbps uplink??? at 80$.... Man, if it is, Can you not cancel and give it to me?

    It is unmetered bandwidth in that plan, not unlimited
    big difference

    So what is the difference? They practically both mean that you can utilize the full 10G up-link.

    Pretty good deal btw, wish I could get such cheap transit :smile:

    data link shared vs dedicated
    one is subject to fair usage, other one is not

  • dev_vpsdev_vps Member
    edited January 8

    @Tamerciaga said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @ankesh said:
    U sure its a Ryzen 5 with 10Gbps uplink??? at 80$.... Man, if it is, Can you not cancel and give it to me?

    It is unmetered bandwidth in that plan, not unlimited
    big difference

    So what is the difference? They practically both mean that you can utilize the full 10G up-link.

    Pretty good deal btw, wish I could get such cheap transit :smile:

    I understand , no one likes to read Terms and Conditions. Why to waste time when we can assume things or get spoon fed from others.

    So, let me spell it for you.
    Terms Page
    https://terrahost.no/avtalebetingelser

    Read this carefully TWICE for better understanding
    “ Servers with an unmetered plan are subject to our Fair Usage Policy. The ports are shared with other customers (3.2:1 ratio) and normal usage is expected. Your use should not cause problems for other customers or infrastructure. Usage beyond 20% (2Gbps) continuous use of the port's capacity on 10Gbit is considered overusage and you may be asked to upgrade to a dedicated port.”

    So, effectively 10 Gb unlimited can not exceed 2 Gb constant rate.

    For dedicated 10 Gb port, there is no such limitations.

    I hope, things are clear now.

  • painfreepcpainfreepc Member
    edited January 8

    unmetered - still will be a cap, example "Unmetered 250Mbps bandwidth"
    and that example may not be 24/7
    and/or times full port speed is not possible,

    unlimited bandwidth is just a marketing gimmick.

  • ankeshankesh Member

    @dev_vps said:

    @Tamerciaga said:

    @dev_vps said:

    @ankesh said:
    U sure its a Ryzen 5 with 10Gbps uplink??? at 80$.... Man, if it is, Can you not cancel and give it to me?

    It is unmetered bandwidth in that plan, not unlimited
    big difference

    So what is the difference? They practically both mean that you can utilize the full 10G up-link.

    Pretty good deal btw, wish I could get such cheap transit :smile:

    I understand , no one likes to read Terms and Conditions. Why to waste time when we can assume things or get spoon fed from others.

    So, let me spell it for you.
    Terms Page
    https://terrahost.no/avtalebetingelser

    Read this carefully TWICE for better understanding
    “ Servers with an unmetered plan are subject to our Fair Usage Policy. The ports are shared with other customers (3.2:1 ratio) and normal usage is expected. Your use should not cause problems for other customers or infrastructure. Usage beyond 20% (2Gbps) continuous use of the port's capacity on 10Gbit is considered overusage and you may be asked to upgrade to a dedicated port.”

    So, effectively 10 Gb unlimited can not exceed 2 Gb constant rate.

    For dedicated 10 Gb port, there is no such limitations.

    I hope, things are clear now.

    I think most of the users are clear about that. Most providers provide Burstable bandwidth only because Network capacity is limited.

    I know one such case which I remembered from your comment, a DC in Indore,India has a peering from DE-CIX(10Gbps) and 4 other ISPs(10Gbps) making a total of 50Gbps network capacity. Now, if it sells servers using Fixed/Dedicated bandwidth, there will be only 50 1Gbps uplinks. To sell more, he has to use Burstable/shared bandwidth method to fulfill every customer's need.

    FUP(Fair Usage policy) is used by all companies but that dosen't pose a problem. The problem is only when company's network is congested and they need to free up the congestion for other users.

  • @dev_vps There is no need to be rude, let's respect each other and maybe you will learn something (I tagged @painfreepc @ankesh too because they seem to agree with your post). But here is a free lesson:
    First of all, the term "unlimited" is technically not possible here, it was invented by the marketing people of big boys to attract more customers (especially those without a technical background). Later on smaller/summer hosts started using this term to profit from this too, or they could just be incompetent, you pick one.

    Now regarding the "unmetered", according to the Cambridge Dictionary it means: "an unmetered internet service is one that you can use as much as you want". So if a hosts advertises with 10G Unmetered, it means you will get a 10G port/uplink with unmetered bandwidth, unless they specify that there is something like a FUP (Fair Use Policy). Let's take Terrahost for example (no offense), when I clicked their URL it only stated 10G Unmetered. The fact that they hide FUP for bandwidth it in their Terms of Service is misleading according to my books, they could simply state 10G Unmetered (FUP)/*, or just a metered 10G up-link with X amount of traffic.

    Whether the "data link" (as you say) is shared or dedicated, is also something that a provider should state. With 10G Unmetered I assume; unmetered traffic on a dedicated 10G up-link, thus unshared.

    About the term FUP, it's a common trick to offer something that looks like a Lamborghini but performs like a Volkswagen, you will get an Aventador but you can only drive 300 kph in the weekends. Most of the time FUP is vague (on purpose), so they can sell you something that looks better than it actually is.

    If you look at some of the dedicated server providers offering unmetered servers, you will see what I mean:
    https://www.worldstream.com/en/dedicated-servers/configure/45?chassis=34&cpu=57&memory=16&location=1&uplink=16&ddosShield=3&storage=12&remoteFeature=1
    https://www.datapacket.com/pricing
    https://www.clouvider.com/unmetered-dedicated-servers/
    https://www.1gservers.com/10g-unmetered-dedicated-servers.html

    Or, you can ignore all that I wrote above and just ask any network engineer.

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  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited January 9

    @dev_vps said:
    ["I'm smart and you are clueless" blabla]

    So, let me spell it for you.

    'Unmetered' on this planet means "no measurements taken" - so, based on what basis would @terrahost determine what speed and/or traffic volume was/is used?

    And 'unlimited' means "no limits" - which necessarily is false when applied to something with inherent limits.

    @Tamerciaga is right. In the given context (hosting/colo) both terms are but marketing BS that pretty much always comes with more or less hidden FUP or suchlike where they offer their private bent-to-match "definition" of unlimited or unmetered.

    But hey, it works! In fact, there are even idiots who proudly point others to FUP, etc.
    The problem of course being that those terms have a clear definition and it's utterly meaningless what this or that providers marketing department tries to redefine.

    That said, a Ryzen dedi with (even "only") 2 Gb/s and almost 3/4 of a PB of traffic for €80 (or was it $$?) is a great deal anyway, especially from a provider who, like terrahost, has quite nice connectivity. And if terrahost asks customers needing even more traffic and/or a full 10 Gb/s port that's sensible and totally justified IMO.

    P.S. Meanwhile terrahost honoured my friend's HS deal although it must be painful for them. Kudos, @terrahost!

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  • I am glad you took the bait.
    👍🏼👍🏼

  • @Tamerciaga said:
    @dev_vps There is no need to be rude, let's respect each other and maybe you will learn something (I tagged @painfreepc @ankesh too because they seem to agree with your post). But here is a free lesson:
    First of all, the term "unlimited" is technically not possible here, it was invented by the marketing people of big boys to attract more customers (especially those without a technical background). Later on smaller/summer hosts started using this term to profit from this too, or they could just be incompetent, you pick one.

    Now regarding the "unmetered", according to the Cambridge Dictionary it means: "an unmetered internet service is one that you can use as much as you want". So if a hosts advertises with 10G Unmetered, it means you will get a 10G port/uplink with unmetered bandwidth, unless they specify that there is something like a FUP (Fair Use Policy). Let's take Terrahost for example (no offense), when I clicked their URL it only stated 10G Unmetered. The fact that they hide FUP for bandwidth it in their Terms of Service is misleading according to my books, they could simply state 10G Unmetered (FUP)/*, or just a metered 10G up-link with X amount of traffic.

    Whether the "data link" (as you say) is shared or dedicated, is also something that a provider should state. With 10G Unmetered I assume; unmetered traffic on a dedicated 10G up-link, thus unshared.

    About the term FUP, it's a common trick to offer something that looks like a Lamborghini but performs like a Volkswagen, you will get an Aventador but you can only drive 300 kph in the weekends. Most of the time FUP is vague (on purpose), so they can sell you something that looks better than it actually is.

    If you look at some of the dedicated server providers offering unmetered servers, you will see what I mean:
    https://www.worldstream.com/en/dedicated-servers/configure/45?chassis=34&cpu=57&memory=16&location=1&uplink=16&ddosShield=3&storage=12&remoteFeature=1
    https://www.datapacket.com/pricing
    https://www.clouvider.com/unmetered-dedicated-servers/
    https://www.1gservers.com/10g-unmetered-dedicated-servers.html

    Or, you can ignore all that I wrote above and just ask any network engineer.

    First of all, my apologies if my response was taken as rude. That was not my intention. Again, my apologies.

    Any services are driven by contract terms rather than meaning in English dictionary.

    So, unmetered is driven by terms. If terms say that you can use only 10% of max data pipe (just an example), then that is the limit.

    Fair Usage clause is the driving factor, in “unmetered” cases.

    Dedicated data port may have peak hour conditions.

  • Unmetered simply means no extra charges based on data used. That’s all. Beyond that it is driven by terms and conditions. (Legal Contract Terms for services)

    Unmetered is shared data port in almost all cases.
    Dedicated port is not shared, but can have limiting usage conditions during peak hours (in most cases for upload data rate)

  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited January 9

    PMS detected.

    OP took the bait. lol

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @dev_vps said:
    Any services are driven by contract terms rather than meaning in English dictionary.

    And those contract terms - as well as contracts - are in which language?

    In fact, legal terms are refinements of normal language with a more tightly limited meaning.
    Plus, where and when needed, contracts contain a definition section in which any terms not used in their standard meaning (typically more precise) are clearly defined.

    Oh and btw, not everything in FUP, TOS, or generally contracts is binding and valid. That's why there is a salvatoric clause in most contracts in case some part of a contract isn't law-conforming.

    So, stop spreading your nonsense and being rude to others.

  • Unmetered can have variant meaning in English dictionary and in contract service agreement.

    And , yes both are written in the English language.

    Mobile data plans, in the US, have multiple “unlimited data plans” by the same carrier for example depending on the mobile service plan.

  • @deank said:
    PMS detected.

    OP took the bait. lol

    Not OP, someone else took the bait.

  • TamerciagaTamerciaga Member
    edited January 9

    @dev_vps said:
    I am glad you took the bait.
    👍🏼👍🏼

    You could also just say "thank you for the free knowledge I have gained".

    @dev_vps said:
    Unmetered is shared data port in almost all cases.

    Read my post again and take a look at my examples. Here are some more bonus examples for you:
    https://www.leaseweb.com/dedicated-server/configure/31028#network-container
    https://customer.i3d.net/configure/2431949/#network

    These can be fitted with dedicated unmetered ports, but I guess you know better than Leaseweb, i3D, etc.

    Now back to the OP @DataBuster , how much traffic do you need on a 10G port?

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited January 9

    OP, enjoy the downward spiral of PMS. It is you who took the bait.

    Heh.

  • Always tickles me when I see the words Unlimited/Unmeterd blah blah ...... It's just all fanciful tosh.

  • @Tamerciaga said:

    @dev_vps said:
    I am glad you took the bait.
    👍🏼👍🏼

    You could also just say "thank you for the free knowledge I have gained".

    That statement was not addressed for you, it was for someone else.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited January 9

    Yeah, never gets old.

    @OsirissBlack said:
    Always tickles me when I see the words Unlimited/Unmeterd blah blah ...... It's just all fanciful tosh.

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