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You don't get to popcorn when you're part of the drama
Those are really big and you can't suck the whole at once
Lmk once you tried
If you do, for heaven's sake be sure to use protection. You can get chlamydia from camels.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304454413_Seroprevalence_of_Chlamydia_abortus_in_camel_in_the_western_region_of_Libya
Port 25 policy to camel STDs in one thread. LET 4 LIFE.
"Black box personality" strikes again
. For stunt like this provider must be well staffed. For understaffed company this is imminent complaints about slow support and negative reviews.
Speaking about how effective such approach to handle spam: it may improve situation a bit. For example DO does this, but still is pre-blacklisted/throttled practically everywhere. Spammers are clever subjects and they will go extra mile if price is right.
From my experience stricter KYC is more effective and easier to do. Just introduce phone verification. This will be more effective than blockade. By nature people hate strict rules.
Nah! only goat and sheep testicle curry so far.
Wow! Now camels needs condoms too?
That must be large very large..
Ports 587 and 465 (465 historically) are almost always configured only for initial submission of outbound mail into an ISP/Service mail gateway, requiring some kind of authentication or customer IP filtering, not for delivery of inbound mail. Spammer's scripts act as their own gateway and deliver mail directly in bulk which is always done over port 25. Ports 587 & 465, restricted to the service's customers, would normally be blocked refuse access to them.
Do you know any solution easy to set up? except for sendgrid.
Many mail services ask for domain verify, then I have to verify every domain on the server.
This is to protect their IP range as well as ensure deliverability (they can insure DKIM/SPF is correct, etc.)
If you don't own the domains (e.g. looking for something for webhosts, etc.), you might want to check out Mailchannels or Mail Baby
Not related to HostHatch, asking in general. What is justified? How about "I would like to be able to send emails"?
Just open a ticket and see. Maybe it's best to tell a more emotional story, to show that you really need it. Something like: "I have a domain for email, and my children can not attend school because I can't communicate with teacher during Covid time at the end of school year in June. Also my cat will have 5 kittens in June, and it will need a veterinary to provide me instructions by email. And like this was not enough, I also must send email to supermarket for buying groceries. Please do not block port 25."
I think they'd be ok with that if you're an old customer, with no history of abuse.
But if you're new, you'll probably need to gift wrap that with pretty ribbons and a nice note.
The end is nigh
No. This argument won't work. This provider has long-term service contracts with customers (2 years and longer). I strongly doubt anyone there thinks "the end is nigh". Therefore, in my opinion, such appeal to faith won't work for opening port 25.
But I am with the host on this one. Just because the host signed up a contract doesn't mean he had to suffer for that period. Historically many contracts/agreements were broken just to keep things for own benefit. Also many already pointed out why blocking port 25 is good idea and it just needs a ticket. What I know so far is having clean IP reputation is a blessing and that needs to be earned. If you blame providers not punishing other spammers and you don't care about what they do, that also includes your service in the line. If the host is doing this for you that means they care for you and you should do the same in return. Historically people don't tend to understand what is good for them. When we should introduce new things to SMTP, IMAP protocol to make it more robust and secure we're here debating about a host blocking port 25! The end is nigh.
So the industry standard is to block all traffic on port 25? Where is this this industry standard publicised?
Granted a few ISP's may be implementing this (what they think is a good solution) solution.
So when will blocking of port 80 and 443 be implemented to stop people hosting porn sites?
Do a barrel roll.
Perhaps Hosthatch, and other providers blocking TCP port 25, are trying to prevent mail from being sent without their customers' knowing. they are not stopping their customers from sending emails consciously.
Some well-known companies have already been breached before, so it should surprise no one that some VPSes will be compromised eventually and used to send spam. That might put the providers' IP blocks on some hard-to-delist RBLs. A "default block" on TCP port 25 seems to be a sensible solution.
Here is the breakdown:
VPS Cost $10/month
Mailchannels so you can send mail: $79/month
Are they giving you a discount for not letting to use port 25?
Selling a Server or VPS without port 25 is very bad.
In the end, you will have to use another provider to send even a single email.
what y'all fussing about for mails. mxroute does it for real low prices. seriously finding fault with a provider selling $3.75/GB/year* VPS that isn't Virmached?
No. Just 80 will be blocked first, because connection needs to be encrypted, especially on said websites.
Got port 25 unblocked (in advance) on my server no problem, ticket reply within 12h. Expected push back as it’s a storage server (email for monitoring), but no issues at all
Or, you know, you can do the bare minimum and open a ticket to have the port opened?
Current "issue" aside, I really must give you credit. You walk such a fine line that I can never tell if you're a troll who likes to start drama or actually give a shit about the things you bring up.
I like how Linode handle about this thing, leave the old customer as is, but block port 25 for new customer.
FWIW, just like HostHatch and their network, OP's inbox is at stake, and he has decided to disable email notifications
That's how I commute anyway 😂