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Here you go drama whores. https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3143338/#Comment_3143338
Just Germans being Germans.
Seriesn said fuck germany were moving to romania
Lool. Nah not ro. We got something cooking though. Just waiting on an ip deal to go through
you didn't have to go off on germany like that saying "they're fucking drunk nazi's" seriesn...
Ehem. Quite the little shit steerer. Aren’t you? 😂
Privacy?! Yeah, there should be privacy and everybody should respect privacy. If it is a real story about "Romania Intelligence Service", that's a real shame.
But if you look from the other side, the provider declares that it ignores complaints. That's good? Everything has its price. I can imagine that this is just the beginning and it will happen again and again and again. Romania is in the EU and ignorance of complaints should not be a common thing in 2020.
Oh well... Time to make another backup as one is actually down and the other have C4 on it. Not hard feelings against you thought.
Ours got resolved and made us think harder about contingency plan. But yeah. Backup and backup and backup. Always.
DMCA is not a romanian nor a EU law, afaik.
@jsg - why do people on here constantly parse the meaning of DMCA? We all know its a euphemism for having material that a person doesnt "own". Its basically a user saying to a provider are you going to delete my shit or not and ignore how I dubiously acquired it, if the content creator bitches to you? I know I know- you'd be all giddy if someone took all your work product nd never paid for it. Can people just accept that DMCA is just a convenient shorthand and no need for the lowend lawyers to ramble on over the same stupid phrases-over and over and over
The action of the authorities in this case is completely unjustifiable given the information we have
All providers are used to take down requests but this is the first case to see them implementing full network take down like this
I would consider the actions of the authorities justifiable only if cociu network allow ip spoofing or they dont have restriction on their own users freely using any of their ips (no ip locking to vm)
in that case i would understand they know the service is in his ASN but they really dont know the exact ip because ips can be spoofed and this can explain why they are shutting whole network and opening the ranges one by one (should take total 1 or 2 hours to test even in this extreme scenario )
But I am almost 100% sure cociu does not allow spoofed IPs which makes the actions here totally unreasonable
I wish @cociu can share more once the issue is resolved t
I am interested to understand what really happened that forced the authorities to shutdown the full network assuming they were acting in good faith
Yeah, it is USA law and most of the complainers just send DMCA messages as a standard. But it doesn't mean, that providers can ignore it let others steal. It is business ethics, perhaps the absence of business ethics, no business ethics when customers can buy everything for money. Earning from customers who steal from others? If you host a dirty network, what you can expect? I can just predict, that there will be more dramas soon.
What the fuck does any of this have to do with DMCA
Police said is a "sex offender". This can also mean someone stealing illegal porn.
Oh didn't know you had the documents, my bad. Lmfao.
It is what they said. No documents were presented so far. Learn to read. If this thread is too long for you, here is the official announcement from HostSolutions website: https://secure.hostsolutions.ro/index.php/announcements/23/Romania-downtime-.html
I didn't realise you couldn't speak English, my bad.
peepee poopoo 💯
@Unbelievable @bacloud
While you are both partly right that doesn't change the fact that US laws (officially) are worth virtually nothing outside the USA.
Also note that @cociu used to mention that he doesn't care about 'DMCA' - he did not say that he doesn't care about criminal abuse.
@servarica_hani
It's hard to judge at this point because we only know one side and even that only in presumably a small part.
But based on what I know about cociu he probably isn't what one might wish for a son in law but he seems to be honest. That plus what I know about Romania and intelligence services seem to quite strongly suggest that @default is right and this whole thing is about an attempt to punish/force cociu to dance to their tune.
@cociu
Sorry, I can't name a single country where constitutional rights are really and reliably respected and honored and where LEA and intelligence services at least try hard to respect the citizens and their rights, but it seems that Romania is a particularly bad apple in the basket of "democratic law-respecting" countries. So I guess you should seriously think about moving HostSolutions to another country.
@jsg just for the record- any direct experience with Romanian LEA and at what level? That is a great expanse of agencies to generalize about. Also, you have been quick to say sue in a couple threads. Have you ever or are you currently suing any government agency in any country? I already know the answer, so its just inane blabbering whose goal is to enrage, incite or at the minimum rile up people. And seriously think about moving whole company? You have 2 pages of second hand and third hand crap on a lowend website- and thats what you determine?
@Unbelievable
I guess you'll never grasp it that ad hominems are not an acceptable or successful way to respond to facts ...
For your convenience, what I stated to you, here again:
Feel free to prove wrong what I've said.
And you ignored the part of you saying sue in 2 threads. But I digress, as we all know on this board- your opinion is the correct one, always. So cociu should sue, seriesn should sue, we should all use your benchmarks, lowend talk ownership is superior, your opinions on all topics are absolute and correct. Now go sue someone- cause you always tell others to do it- maybe make a legal process benchmark and tell the judge yours is the best
BS!
My opinion is my opinion and nothing more. Of bloody course I can be wrong.
Let's chill and wait for @cociu to post the documents.
Francisco
No matter it is the USA, Europe, or North Korea law, it is stealing and it is ignoring complaints. It doesn't change anything, it doesn't change the fact of stealing.
cociu/HS should start selling ad space under his threads, or at least be paid for the hits/traffic he gets
Are any more servers back online? Maybe some users can confirm this.
Mine is still offline
Mine is online. I thought all should be online by now?