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Was telling that Chinese got used to whatever payment method they like to use, such as wechat or alipay.
Also was telling that Chinese love LAX/CA locations simply because they are more convenient for bypassing the firewall, which is forbidden in China mainland. A CN company will never allow you to bypass the firewall, and that's the whole point they want to deal with a foreign company.
Anyway, flush your toilet and move on.
Huh so when someone comes to your house for the first time and after dinner they really need to shit, you make them hold it in? Shit on the couch? Shit outside? or what
This is an English forum, not a "go somewhere else and translate into English" forum. Readers want to read one post and then another, not to have to go deal with third party websites to interpret what you said.
In chrome, I highlighted the words and right clicked and Translate was an option. It gave me a result full of Chinese Twitter accounts, still in Chinese. That's about as much effort as I'm willing to put in.
So next time, people will just skip over you and ignore you. If you want to be heard, write it in English.
Regards
Someone in traditional chinese thought he knows far more than other people from China mainland and talks unrelated politics here. That’s a CXK behavior and vile char.
(Note: mainland chinese uses simplified chinese only)
An explanation of CXK behavior
Translate:
We need VPS for VPN
We need VPS for P0rn
@Jim_tom
Not every provider wants to consider for Mainland Chinese customers, some of them target to a wider global market.
Local AFF blog may be a better way to find what we need, although there are fake informations, we need to learn how to recognize.
BTW,
Some people dispute because they think the route to Mainland China is not as fast as they think. Actually it is because China Telecom / China Unicom / China Mobile monopolized the market, third party like Cogent / Telia / NTT, their bandwidth are restricted at China global internet border (Which at the same place with Great Fire Wall, all abroad traffic pass through it). But these people don't realized that, they just believe the net speed is slow because your VPS is poor.
As you said "no damn use", so tell your friends on that forum don't come here to bitch around when next provider blocks Chinese IP from ordering. They have every right to do so.
MJJ (LOC members) are not friends, they are more likely to be 'comrades'.
So the same, no damn use. There will be no one listen to a single word I said.
People keep buying, keep disputing, keep bitching around.
So the best way is to use your wisdom to deal with Chinese customers.
Learn from Hostflyte and PacificRack, they have experiences.
Looks like they are looking for your identity to send you a ddos gift.
If you are talking about BandWagon Host, then the correct URL is https://bandwagonhost.com, https://bwh88.net is an equivalent one for access within China mainland.
And one amendment, just in my opinion, setting up a personal blog inside China requires sort of a permit from supervising authorities. The related requirements varies from province to province, cities to cities, time to time, very "flexible" and harsh. Some even are required to remove guestbooks from blogs, some required keep their personal blogs' titles uniformed, ie, you'll have to set your blog title sth. like Jack's personal blog, or similar, or otherwise you won't obtain the permit. I am not exaggerating the ridiculous situation inside China, as people will read those complaints from Hostloc forum. It's worthwhile that western hosting providers do deep and relevant research before they finally know what the market truly is and how it develops for better forecast.
No worry lah. They can't DDoS my farm lah.
Sorry was asleep. I just woke up and here's a free @poisson translation service:
Communication is very important. Let me roughly introduce the requirements of Chinese clients.
The first type only requires VPNs to bypass the GFW for services such as Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, Google etc. They just need a cheap VPS to install VPN software. They do not require powerful VPS specs but what they need is quality peering and speed. This type of clients are considered low-end clients.
The second type of clients require not just VPNs, but they also need a VPS for their personal blogs. This type of clients are considered mid-range clients.
The third type of clients are those who do not need a VPN to bypass the GFW. They require the VPS to create websites or other web services. These clients choose VPSes located outside of China for various reasons (these are the high-end clients who buy VPS with high specs or dedicated servers):
a. They do not wish to go through the trouble of registration paperwork, which is very tedious in China.
b. They may wish to provide content which is illegal under Chinese laws.
c. Internal bandwidth in China is too expensive.
I hope that hosting providers can tailor their products and prices to meet the needs of Chinese clients. Of course, if you do not wish to accept Chinese customers, you can just ignore us. However, if there is any unhappiness, we should talk it out because miscommunication between providers and customers is often the biggest problem. Also, please do not bring your political views into discussions, unless you are the head of your country.
To add on, there are three major carriers in China: China Unicom, China Mobile and China Telecom. Their international connections are not the same, so situations arise where a provider has good connections to one carrier but not the other two, resulting in different user experiences. There is an ancient saying in China: details determine success or failure. I would like to suggest that providers indicate which Chinese carrier their services peer better with to reduce misunderstandings caused by this issue.
Free @poisson translation service again:
When dealing with low-end clients, or maybe you can call them idiot clients, one can learn from bandwagon.net to either provide an interface that can connect to a VPN or provide a mirror website that is already connected through a VPN (as for how to resolve the problem of GFW's aggressive banning, I am not a technical expert and I am unable to advise, but one can go to HostLoc to look at threads that specializes in this topic). Of course, if there is a Chinese interface that is even better; if there is intention to capture the Chinese market, spending resources on this is something I think is necessary. Word-of-mouth is based on action and providers should consider both price and quality to achieve a good balance.
Free @poisson translation service for @SirFoxy:
We do not use Bitcoin. We use Paypal, credit card (many people don't use this though), WeChat Pay and Alipay. If it is a new provider, it is difficult for us to use payment options other than Paypal. The established big players such as BWH, OVH etc allow us to use WeChat Pay and Alipay, which is very convenient.
The L.A. location you are referring to is very profitable because they make money from the need to bypass the GFW. If there is no longer such a need, would it still be profitable? One can say that the GFW created an entire industry.
theres no much disputes on it, just BUSINESS, providers who are willing to do business with chinese made big bucks already. look at bandwagonhost.
Ok, guys, I am a simple man, I have a simple question, after researching about alipay and wechat pay for a good couple of hours/days, I am almost brain dead, how does one go about accepting that here in the states that work with whmcs or blesta?
So far I have seen two "merchant" services, that is not stripe, who requires an email to setup an account/get consulted, which is bs.
There is no builtin solution for stripe that works with Whmcs without the help of 3rd party solutions, that I don't know if I can trust that much.
Thanks.
This is something that the Chinese folks might know better than us and we need their input.
Hopefully, someone can chime in because I am lost Af.
go away
most people that don't speak chinese just use stripe to accept it
@seriesn
I had no trouble activating AliPay on my Stripe merchant account, although I'm not aware of a way for you to accept it using Blesta/WHMCS at this time without an external paid module.
I have it activated. The only problem, can’t figure out a way to accept it manually.
The current whmcs paid module is a joke.
Jesus, China needs a revolution. Now would be the time, too. Trump would probably aid the people to fuck with Chinese government.
@seriesn
It's possible using the newest JS library, but no decent module exists for that yet. That said, only users with billing addresses set in China and co. are able to use AliPay, so if you want to test it out you would need to input some Chinese address.
But, how do I accept it manually if I need to?
@seriesn
There should be some demo code available somewhere, I've not tested it yet but Stripe seems to have a few examples.
MJJ NB
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Hi @dedipromo
I would like to get invitation code to the site
when i do search for servarica i see many threads opened there about us .
most of the time I cant even understand what is being said with google translate which is really bad for Chinese (Mandarin I assume)(they translate dollar to knife !!! and you really sometimes dont understand even the topic )
Also would you be able to make a guide on how to make offers there like what section or link we have to go
For us we almost never had issues with Chinese customers
they will either like the service or if the network is too bad for them they will open ticket and ask for refund in civilized manner . probably in the last 30 days we got only 1 dispute from china and it was misunderstanding abut how we do refund and it got resolved
I wish to know what we do right that our Chinese customers are really good so we emphasize on keep doing it
That's because do (as in dollar) and knife (in Chinese) are homophones. And you will find a plethora of acronyms and other types of abbreviations that Google translate (or a native Chinese speaker who isn't familiar with hosting, for that matter) can't understand.