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Debian 10 "Buster" stable appears today

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  • freerangecloudfreerangecloud Member, Patron Provider

    @uptime said:

    Also noticed @freerangecloud currently has an "alpha5" version of the Buster ISO available (setting up a new instance in Fremont - assume they may have it in other locations as well.) Hopefully they'll put the stable release ISO up soon too.

    Done!

    An actual VPS template will be a little longer time coming though

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  • donlidonli Member

    @freerangecloud said:

    An actual VPS template will be a little longer time coming though

    Hurry up, Debianers are excited to finally have the opportunity to be equal to the current Windows release.

  • Shot2Shot2 Member

    @donli said:

    @freerangecloud said:

    An actual VPS template will be a little longer time coming though

    Hurry up, Debianers are excited to finally have the opportunity to be equal to the current Windows release.

    Still, it lags 54 versions behind Firefox™.
    No, wait, 55.
    Huh, no, wait, 56
    Oh hmmm no

  • donlidonli Member
    edited July 2019

    @Shot2 said:

    Still, it lags 54 versions behind Firefox™.
    No, wait, 55.
    Huh, no, wait, 56
    Oh hmmm no

    That's was a brilliant marketing decision on the part of the Firefox team, right ?

    (And I just checked, yup, it's at version 67!! )

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    ISO added, having a play myself.

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  • I have always been told centos is the server OS.

    What are some reasons one would pick debian or ubuntu instead of centos? Sorry, don't mean to get off track the OP.

    Any thoughts? Thanks

  • donlidonli Member
    edited July 2019

    @plumberg said:
    I have always been told centos is the server OS.

    What are some reasons one would pick debian or ubuntu instead of centos?

    You'd like the software versions you run to be from sometime in the last 5 years.

    You're someone less apt to like yum.

    You want to run a webserver on your remote control.

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  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    I did a fresh install of Debian 10 on a laptop. The installation went well, no issues so far, looking good. :smile:

  • williewillie Member
    edited July 2019

    I've never understood reason corporate types preferring ubuntu over debian, other than Shuttleworth himself being a corporate type so Ubuntu seems less alien to them. I did run centos for a while (and fedora on pc's still, but planning to switch). Its packaging and admin commands are different though, so I'm planning to have debian on everything soon. If I were a real nerd I guess I'd use guix, but so it goes.

    As of last night, there was a live boot image of xfce but not of mate, which is what I want to run. I torrented the xfce image and let it seed for a while but nobody else seemed to want it. Will wait for mate to appear and get that, I guess.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @willie said: As of last night, there was a live boot image of xfce but not of mate, which is what I want to run. I torrented the xfce image and let it seed for a while but nobody else seemed to want it. Will wait for mate to appear and get that, I guess.

    You can find all of the live boot images via this page: https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ (MATE is also there.)

    Alternatively, why not just use the netinst image and select MATE when the choice of desktop is queried? (This is what I did today.)

  • djndjn Member

    I updated my pi-zero os to Buster with minimal problems so it could run on the pi4 I have had sat in its box since day after launch

  • williewillie Member
    edited July 2019

    it's there now but wasn't there last night ;)

    Alternatively, why not just use the netinst image and select MATE when the choice of desktop is queried?

    Desktop installation is for an actual desktop (well laptop) pc with slow internet, so I'd rather download the entire image and install locally, than have it pull packages over the network one at a time.

    OVH mirror seems to be populated, but timestamps on lots of files are from before the release, so maybe they are from when it was still in testing:

    http://debian.mirrors.ovh.net/debian/dists/buster/main/

    I notice apt/sources.list in buyvm kvm template points to mirrors.kernel.org which has 10.0 dists dir, but maybe I'll wait a few days before hitting it.

    Interestingly I see the Hetzner Cloud debian 9 template points to deb.debian.org even though Hetzner has its own mirror (mirror.hetzner.de). @Hetzner_OL you might mention that to your devs?

    Mirrors.hetzner.de does have 10.0. I might manually update my cloud vps and attempt upgrade (it's now running stretch) before starting dealing with the wheezy dedi.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @willie said: Interestingly I see the Hetzner Cloud debian 9 template points to deb.debian.org even though Hetzner has its own mirror (mirror.hetzner.de). @Hetzner_OL you might mention that to your devs?

    deb.debian.org is a safer choice, especially seeing that mirror.hetzner.de isn't reachable at the moment.

  • angstromangstrom Moderator
    edited July 2019

    @angstrom said:

    @willie said: Interestingly I see the Hetzner Cloud debian 9 template points to deb.debian.org even though Hetzner has its own mirror (mirror.hetzner.de). @Hetzner_OL you might mention that to your devs?

    deb.debian.org is a safer choice, especially seeing that mirror.hetzner.de isn't reachable at the moment.

    Or is it mirrors.hetzner.de ? In which case perhaps a complete directory path is needed (which I'm missing).

  • angstromangstrom Moderator

    @willie said: I notice apt/sources.list in buyvm kvm template points to mirrors.kernel.org which has 10.0 dists dir, but maybe I'll wait a few days before hitting it.

    mirrors.kernel.org is probably a well-maintained mirror and one that can handle a good number of connections.

  • williewillie Member

    angstrom said: Or is it mirrors.hetzner.de

    No it's

    deb http://mirror.hetzner.de/debian/packages wheezy main contrib non-free

    The mirror is up and works fine inside Hetzner, but it looks unresponsive from outside Hetzner, which makes sense if it's intended for Hetzner users.

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  • Raspbian did it earlier.

  • vyas11vyas11 Member

    Looks like Buster is busting tonight’s plans. Now if only there was a spare setup to do a clean install...

  • @vyas11 said:
    Looks like Buster is busting tonight’s plans. Now if only there was a spare setup to do a clean install...

    Hetzner cloud hourly. :D

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  • williewillie Member
    edited July 2019

    Upgraded buyvm 1gb slice without significant snags. One annoying thing was silly systemd prompt for ssl certificate keyfile password when the web server wasn't even running. Upgrade was pretty fast despite getting files from kernel.org. Faster than virmach kvm of last night, I'd say. Vm specs are simliar.

    Also spent a lot of today compressing and copying backups around, in preparation for upgrading hetzner dedi. That will be a blast since it's something of a frankenstein right now.

  • donlidonli Member

    @willie said:

    Also spent a lot of today compressing and copying backups around, in preparation for upgrading hetzner dedi. That will be a blast since it's something of a frankenstein right now.

    That's falkenstein.

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  • uptimeuptime Member

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  • williewillie Member

    Upgraded an i5 Kimsufi which was supposedly a fairly clean Stretch install. Weird thing happened that also happened on the Virmach KVM iirc. The first time I thought I'd messed something up, but now I'm like wtf.

    Basically I changed sources.list to point to buster, then apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade, went through whole process including more annoying dialogs than usual about config files being edited. Then the upgrade seemed to finish, so I rebooted, but found I was still running stretch. Ran dist-upgrade again and did ANOTHER huge upgrade install, and this time the dist upgrade seemed to actually work so the box is running Buster now. I'll watch for any breakage.

    This reminds me of why I've always hated upgrading software. Something always goes wrong. So I've traditionally preferred to do full reinstalls to incremental upgrades, before stuff started changing so fast.

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  • Hetzner_OLHetzner_OL Member, Top Host

    @donli Hi everyone, Debian 10 or Buster ist now available for Hetzner Cloud!

  • uptimeuptime Member

    Büster

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  • donlidonli Member

    @Hetzner_OL said:
    @donli Hi everyone, Debian 10 or Buster ist now available for Hetzner Cloud!

    ist gut.

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  • @Hetzner_OL said:
    @donli Hi everyone, Debian 10 or Buster ist now available for Hetzner Cloud!

    You are the second cloud has Debian 10 image available, right after Linode!

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  • From Debian 8 to buster, just busted My shit, prolly cause openvz and kernel old.

  • donlidonli Member

    @Learntolive said:
    From Debian 8 to buster, just busted My shit, prolly cause openvz and kernel old.

    OpenVZ 6 doesn't even like Debian 9.

  • @donli said:

    @Learntolive said:
    From Debian 8 to buster, just busted My shit, prolly cause openvz and kernel old.

    OpenVZ 6 doesn't even like Debian 9.

    Debian 9 went smooth with kernel 2.6 but buster rip 😅

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