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For an entire HDD, yes. An HDD shared between tens of users can be pretty awful, especially as capacities increase without iops increasing. I wouldn't run any live service from an HDD VPS these days. HDD is ok for storage of bulk media or other infrequently accessed data. SSD caching can help a lot of course, but most serious VPS products are pure SSD these days unless they are high storage, like some of the Netcup SAS plans.
AS SSD
Do they accept direct credit card payment (not through paypal ) ?
"10 iops ought to be enough for everybody."
Amitz Dullnicker, Computer Tycoon, 1986
Oh you kids and your fsyncs.
We didn't go running to sda mommy every time something new happened.
damn no nested, would have been nice to setup proxmox for 2-3 VMs
you can enable it, but they charge you a fee per core monthly
any idea what the fee is?
@Nihim this what happens when your too horny to read.
Are you sure that this isn't just a case of comparison porn disillusion? I have a smaller root server (spindles, not SSD) with netcup and yes, iops is, depending on slice size, "only" between 900 and 1550 -but- on a (cheap older 56xx Xeon) dedi I have only between 420 and 710!
Now, granted, that dedi isn't exactly new and a speed demon but it's an HP branded machine. I find both of them OK and not slow, both perform nicely and way better than most VPS I've seen. Note: with "perform" I mean overall application performance, not mere just numbers.
Let's look a moment. iops on a good modern SSD are let's say about 100 kIO and about the only way I see for a VPS to have 10k - 20 kIO is either a suicidal hoster (loosing money by putting no more than 5 or so users on a machine) or heavy caching, probably on the Raid controller or via intel Optane.
TL;DR: benchmarks are nice (I wrote one myself) but let's not get lost in funny numbers wanking. The netcup root servers are among the finest VPS out there (minus the IPv6 problem but I don't care sh_t about IPv6). At the end of the day it's overall nginx or PostgreSQL or ... performance that counts, not benchmark numbers.
With all due respect, you may don't care about IPv6 but most people - including me, do.
I have to admit publicly that:
A) I AM horny about the offer
I glanced over the whole thread and still I haven't see a comment about the extra price per dedicated core with nested
So? I didn't judge your IPv6 comment. I personally don't care and think that IPv6 will never really take off but I accept that others like you have a different view. So, if NetCup's IPv6 really is poor (don't know, didn't look at it) I have no problem whatsoever with you stating that.
somewhere mentioned was €2/m per core.
I've had a Root-Server from netcup since last Easter and I've used IPv6 since the beginning, and I can't say that I've ever experienced the lag that you mentioned. In my experience, IPv6 works fine.
Frankly, my Root-Server is one of the best VPSes that I've ever had.
It goes without saying that some people (including you) care. Whether most people care is not so certain.
I already see, 2% steal on my php friends, with 2 dedicated cores on idle.
Well fuck.
is 2% a lot?
No, but if your vps is at idle, and has 2% its concerning.
Usually it has 0% on idle as it should be.
Likely if you go on full load on these 2 cores with steal before, you see 10-20% or even more, which then hurts your performance.
1400 is more than enough for most uses. With that kind of VPS CPU will likely be the bottleneck before i/o.
Remember: it wasn't dedicated but "dedicated"...
2% thread theft is a hell of a lot less than even the local government takes from me.
2% steal on idle is a bit shitty, even some of my ultra cheap KVM vps which are most likely quite oversold got 0% steal even if you hit the cpu a bit.
Actually the only vps I ever had any steal issue was on a dedicated core plan.
If you can get 80-90% for long periods on a vps this cheap, you're doing pretty good. 2% sounds like the cores aren't pinned but there is plenty of capacity. I wonder how hyperthreading affects this though.
Well yea, true that.
Hyperthreading should be only affect it, when the node is already under heavy load.
Otherwise should run the same.
Welp ... looks like those of us from s***hole countries are less than welcome.
Sent them a scanned copy of utility bill and got slapped back with this:
As I suspected ... not worth the hassle. Understandable, though.
@Whoa sorry for that. just move on.... write to @PHP_Friends and ask him nicely, maybe he can tell you to wait for some upcoming offer one day
https://php-friends.de/vserver-ssd/vserver-fruehlingsspecial-2019-storage-ssd
Evil, evil netcup.
Maybe they have reasons? Reasons like strict laws and in particular lots of bad experience with bad clients? Maybe netcup doesn't play it that way because they are bureaucracy loving a__holes but because they have learned from experience?
My wife who is a German through whom I ordered the netcup VPS also had to go through some verification procedure (so it's not about racism). And it was damn worth it. Now being a netcup customer I have a consistently really fine VPS for an almost ridiculously low price. And btw, their support is quick and good, too.
You think netcup is too bureaucratic or you don't like them? No problem, there is plenty other providers out there, just pick one you like.
Well, @Whoa (who you're replying to) did add "Understandable, though". He was reporting his experience more than he was complaining about netcup, and he didn't mention racism.
It's fair to say that some countries are generally considered to be high-risk, and this perception can negatively affect an honest individual from such a country. None of this is specific to netcup, but it's possible that netcup is more rigorous (for good reason) in checking identification than some other providers are.
We can find a nicer word than "racism" but I referred to @Whoa's quoted statement. My point was btw not to accuse him of anything but rather to emphasize that netcup is not based on <insert nicer term than racism> but on reasonable business criteria based on experience.