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Netcup Root-Server Spring 2019 (2 ded cores/ 20 GB RAM / 128 GB SSD - 9.95 EUR)

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  • greattomeetyougreattomeetyou Member

    ehab said: interested to see the cpu flags "particularly vmx "

    Not seeing it, what does that imply?

  • ehabehab Member
    edited April 2019

    @greattomeetyou said:

    ehab said: interested to see the cpu flags "particularly vmx "

    Not seeing it, what does that imply?

    all hope is lost.

    --- no nested virtualization

  • cybertechcybertech Member

    Not all that glitters is Gold

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  • DrCornFlakesDrCornFlakes Member

    Two girls, one netcup.

    Das ist real shitposting.

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  • greattomeetyougreattomeetyou Member
    edited April 2019

    LLang said: dedicated cores we pass right through

    ehab said: --- no nested virtualization

    is pass thru == nested virtualization?

    BTW, I didn't see any "CPU pass thru" mentioned in the official site.

  • LeonDynamicLeonDynamic Member

    @emre said:
    dd: sequential write speed
    1st run: 248.91 MiB/s
    2nd run: 363.35 MiB/s
    3rd run: 378.61 MiB/s
    average: 330.29 MiB/s

    Thanks @emre for the bench. Those DD speeds are a bit low, was expecting higher. They are slightly less than my SAS with Netcup.

  • ehabehab Member

    @greattomeetyou said:

    confirmed, nested virtualization is NOT enabled.

    Thanked by 1vimalware
  • emreemre Member, LIR

    LeonDynamic said: Thanks @emre for the bench. Those DD speeds are a bit low, was expecting higher. They are slightly less than my SAS with Netcup.

    >

    these servers are new

    need time for them to be filled and things to settle down.

    here is a bench from a 1.5 year old server with ssd drives.

    -------------------------------------------------
 nench.sh v2019.03.01 -- https://git.io/nench.sh
 benchmark timestamp:    2019-04-03 16:19:19 UTC
-------------------------------------------------

Processor:    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2660 v3 @ 2.60GHz
CPU cores:    2
Frequency:    2596.990 MHz
RAM:          2,9G
Swap:         3,7G
Kernel:       Linux 4.9.0-8-amd64 x86_64

Disks:
sda    240G  HDD

CPU: SHA256-hashing 500 MB
    3,405 seconds
CPU: bzip2-compressing 500 MB
    5,493 seconds
CPU: AES-encrypting 500 MB
    1,647 seconds

ioping: seek rate
    min/avg/max/mdev = 137.9 us / 621.0 us / 9.90 ms / 427.9 us
ioping: sequential read speed
    generated 6.16 k requests in 5.00 s, 1.50 GiB, 1.23 k iops, 308.1 MiB/s

dd: sequential write speed
    1st run:    304.22 MiB/s
    2nd run:    304.22 MiB/s
    3rd run:    304.22 MiB/s
    average:    304.22 MiB/s

IPv4 speedtests
    your IPv4:    46.38.250.xxxx

    Cachefly CDN:         32.25 MiB/s
    Leaseweb (NL):        47.80 MiB/s
    Softlayer DAL (US):   12.05 MiB/s
    Online.net (FR):      28.82 MiB/s
    OVH BHS (CA):         9.84 MiB/s

IPv6 speedtests
    your IPv6:    2a03:4000:b:xxxx

    Leaseweb (NL):        91.01 MiB/s
    Softlayer DAL (US):   0.00 MiB/s
    Online.net (FR):      45.31 MiB/s
    OVH BHS (CA):         3.79 MiB/s
-------------------------------------------------
  • danielcardosoptdanielcardosopt Member

    @emre said:
    need time for them to be filled and things to settle down.

    Maybe. I bought one, and I must say it's amazing.

    Compared with RS 2000 G8:

    • More 4GB Ram
    • Double SSD storage
    • Half the number of cores
    • 2/3 of the price (1 month contract)

    Good speedtest about 700/700. I think the price is good, a lot more RAM then I need (half would be more than enough), but worth it.

  • williewillie Member

    This is an impressive value, particularly because of the ram, assuming no overallocation. I wish some north american hosts could get anywhere near this. Overall though it's a slightly awkward product in terms of resource ratios. If I want that much ram I probably also want more than 2 vcores. If this is starting a refresh of the 8th gen root server line, it will be interesting to see what other models appear. Some updates to the hourly billed products would also be great.

  • LetzienLetzien Member

    This would almost be enough to run an unused Drupal service.

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  • athanathan Member

    Got one yesterday and already cancelled it.

    Problems with Netcup infrastructure I've noticed last year still apply.
    Ipv6 routing slow after not used for a few minutes as well as very low disk iops

  • cybertechcybertech Member

    @athan said:
    Got one yesterday and already cancelled it.

    Problems with Netcup infrastructure I've noticed last year still apply.
    Ipv6 routing slow after not used for a few minutes as well as very low disk iops

    How low IOPS?

  • athanathan Member
    edited April 2019

    1400 (FBSD diskinfo -ictv) and I've experienced even worst numbers after a while.
    Even on a overpopulated Hetzner CX11 node I'm experiencing more than 7000

    But the worst problem for me is ipv6. After server staying idle, no traffic for 5-10 minutes a ping to/from any outside ipv6 address has up to 8" (!!!) delay before getting a route. Yes, up to eight seconds before routing!

    Unbelievable that they haven't fix this since last year

  • First-RootFirst-Root Member, Host Rep

    @athan said:
    1400 (FBSD diskinfo -ictv) and I've experienced even worst numbers after a while.
    Even on a overpopulated Hetzner CX11 node I'm experiencing more than 7000

    But the worst problem for me is ipv6. After server staying idle, no traffic for 5-10 minutes a ping to/from any outside ipv6 address has up to 8" (!!!) delay before getting a route. Yes, up to eight seconds before routing!

    Unbelievable that they haven't fix this since last year

    send out an ipv6 ping every 60 seconds? :p just kidding

  • athanathan Member

    @FR_Michael said:
    send out an ipv6 ping every 60 seconds? :p just kidding

    😅😅😅

  • johnex31johnex31 Member

    What's the difference between theirs Root servers and vServers? Root server = openVZ and vServer = KVM?

  • vimalwarevimalware Member

    What is the network setup on netcup KVM instances?
    Is it a NATed public IP routed to a private IP on the VM (like EC2, scaleway) or is it like in SolusVM with a directly attached public IP?

    @athan said:
    1400 (FBSD diskinfo -ictv) and I've experienced even worst numbers after a while.
    Even on a overpopulated Hetzner CX11 node I'm experiencing more than 7000

    I would have waited 8-10days just to make sure it wasn't new user benchmark mania iops depletion.

    But the worst problem for me is ipv6. After server staying idle, no traffic for 5-10 minutes a ping to/from any outside ipv6 address has up to 8" (!!!) delay before getting a route. Yes, up to eight seconds before routing!

    This sounds more serious though. What did they tell you when you ticketed?
    (you did raise a ticket, didn't you?)

  • athanathan Member

    Twice in the past, last year.

    I've sent them screenshots and logs but nothing, I don't remember their exact words but they're considering this issue as "normal" situation.

    I hoped they had it fixed since then. Unfortunately they don't

  • WhoaWhoa Member

    To finish your order we need an proof of adress, which is translated into English and legally attested

    what does "legally attested" even mean ... I've validated my address with providers before - but this is a first.
    I'm not sure if this is worth the hassle.

  • ehabehab Member
    edited April 2019

    @Whoa said:

    send them a photo of your last electrical bill.

  • benj0xbenj0x Member

    @johnex31 said:
    What's the difference between theirs Root servers and vServers? Root server = openVZ and vServer = KVM?

    everything KVM, but root servers offer cpu passthrough, vps dont

  • LetzienLetzien Member

    @Whoa said:

    To finish your order we need an proof of adress, which is translated into English and legally attested

    what does "legally attested" even mean ... I've validated my address with providers before - but this is a first.
    I'm not sure if this is worth the hassle.

    Basically, they want you to prove you are who you claim to be, so they know who to send the killer ninja potato spiders after.

  • AmitzAmitz Member

    They really have killer ninja potato spiders? I always thought they are just are myth. Now you have my full attention!

  • LetzienLetzien Member

    @Amitz said:
    They really have killer ninja potato spiders?

    Oh shit, cover blown!

  • williewillie Member

    1400 iops is pretty decent for a cheap vps. If Hetzner is allowing 7000 on a cx11 for any sustained period they are inflicting other users with noisy neighbors.

  • williewillie Member

    Whoa said: what does "legally attested" even mean

    Suspect it means send some kind of legal document like a copy of your drivers license, that has your address on it.

  • athanathan Member
    edited April 2019

    @willie said:
    1400 iops is pretty decent for a cheap vps.

    Vultr 1/1024: 19.000 iops
    BuyVM 4G: 22.000 iops
    Scaleway START1/S 18.000 iops
    DigitalOcean Standard 1G 17.500 iops
    Hosthatch NVMe 2GB 16.000 iops
    Vultr skylake 2G 21.000 iops

    Sorry but 1400 is not decent for any price!

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  • williewillie Member

    Those are impressive numbers--I wonder how many of the ops are actually reaching the disk. It's quite a lot of the iops that the ssd itself can handle. I wouldn't want you to try it but I suspect it's one of those things like cpu, which you can use a lot in bursts, but you get throttled if you try to sustain it for too long.

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  • greattomeetyougreattomeetyou Member

    willie said: 1400 iops is pretty decent

    Is a HDD's iops in the 100s ranges?

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