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★ VirMach ★ Black Friday & Cyber Week 2018 ★ RAID 10 SSD ★ OpenVZ & KVM ★ Check inside for offers!

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  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    Now I feel empty without that VirMach bell / flash deal :(

    Thanked by 1Chronic
  • maybe, but this homework is still not completed

  • @FAT32 said:
    Now I feel empty without that VirMach bell / flash deal :(

    Maybe you can edit your script to trigger the sound every 15 minutes ?

    Thanked by 3FAT32 uptime Chronic
  • FrankZFrankZ Veteran
    edited December 2019

    Found another egg, put in the code, and broke the billing server "Error 522". Sorry guys :cry:

    EDIT: Not a good egg.

    Thanked by 3plumberg uptime alilet
  • @FrankZ said:
    Found another egg, put in the code, and broke the billing server "Error 522". Sorry guys :cry:

    EDIT: Not a good egg.

    Maybe they can get the billing machines hosted on Amazon AWS next year.

  • @donli said:

    @FrankZ said:
    Found another egg, put in the code, and broke the billing server "Error 522". Sorry guys :cry:

    EDIT: Not a good egg.

    Maybe they can get the billing machines hosted on Amazon AWS next year.

    They can put it on buffalo, they have many machines there, don't they?

  • @FAT32 said:
    That's why I hate some of the Chinese. It just makes me so angry.

    "大家约个时间集体PP争议,这样就是集体事件,很容易获得退款。
    有空TM的装B调侃各种浪,没空处理一下这么简单的事。
    垃圾到家。
    f.u.c.k virmach 's boss(if Chinese ,f.u.c.k ur mom) and garbage products."

    Translation: "Let's find a time and chargeback together, this will increase the chance of getting back the refund. There's time to generate those useless deals but no time to process a simple change of email. This company is rubbish."


    Who do you think you are? Why should a company like VirMach handle your bad attitude? Rule by rule, simple. Those deals are limited / flash for a reason, do you really think your money can even cover the support cost? Smh.


    Edit: He also created lots of fake news about VirMach.

    That is terribad.

    Is virmach okay with chinese users trying to abuse the system? There's a xenforo site I run that just suddenly had a huge influx of chinese IPs hitting it, went from around 500 users/guests active per hour to 4000. It was fronted with cloudflare and I just put a rule in and it filtered all the chinese IPs out within a matter of minutes.

    I assume they'll use proxies/vpns to try to bypass that but better than nothing.

  • Homework submitted, now that I can sleep, I still feel like I have too much energy. Where was this energy two hour ago ?

    Thanked by 1uptime
  • @ben47955 said:
    Homework submitted, now that I can sleep, I still feel like I have too much energy. Where was this energy two hour ago ?

    Are you sure you didn't make an error?

  • uptimeuptime Member
    edited December 2019

    @cmpe said:
    I just put a rule in and it filtered all the chinese IPs out within a matter of minutes.
     
    I assume they'll use proxies/vpns to try to bypass that but better than nothing.

    I'm guessing a business that is prepared to handle some of this kind of BS can do pretty well if they can deal with the traffic and transactions. It's definitely a delicate balance of risk vs. reward, but might work at scale.

    purely speculation on my part, but it also might help if they're not exactly taking it personally (like a smaller provider caught by surprise might do ...)

    "It's just business, man"

    Getting the good customers (and being prepared to deal with the rest by any means necessary) sometimes could just make everything (maybe barely) worthwhile. Or so I would hope, at least.

    Thanked by 3FrankZ cmpe scorcher9
  • @donli said:

    @ben47955 said:
    Homework submitted, now that I can sleep, I still feel like I have too much energy. Where was this energy two hour ago ?

    Are you sure you didn't make an error?

    I know I did and I even written it. But my brain is fried, there are no more compute.

  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire
    edited December 2019

    Frankly I bought nothing much but rather spent most number of hours this year. Just realise one week passed that quickly.

    Wish next year I will be the one enjoying instead :D Or maybe I might not join also, time will tell :)

    Thanked by 3uptime cmpe plumberg
  • Honestly though, I enjoy these flash deals partly because of the Captchas, 502s, and whatnots. It's as if we're doing a digital Hunger Games, battling for our survival for lowend deals! :lol:

  • @FAT32 said:
    Frankly I bought nothing much but rather spent most number of hours this year. Just realise one week passed that quickly.

    Wish next year I will be the one enjoying instead :D Or maybe I might not join also, time will tell :)

    @FAT32 I would like to gift you one. The last $2 flash deal 1536 Buffalo 2c/2g/20g SSD. Can I do that? Would virmach allow me to transfer it to you?

    Thanked by 2FAT32 uptime
  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire
    edited December 2019

    @cmpe said:
    FAT32 I would like to gift you one. The last $2 flash deal 1536 Buffalo 2c/2g/20g SSD. Can I do that? Would virmach allow me to transfer it to you?

    Thanks for that but dont worry :) I would most likely idle that $2 anyway. You earned the best deal this BF because even I tried I cant get it too 😅

    Not really sure how you guys did it without getting rate limited, sometimes it was an accident and suddenly have to wait 60 seconds

    Thanked by 1cmpe
  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    Guys, post some memes or share some benchmarks to make this thread to page 200!!

    Thanked by 2FrankZ uptime
  • @FAT32 said:

    @cmpe said:
    FAT32 I would like to gift you one. The last $2 flash deal 1536 Buffalo 2c/2g/20g SSD. Can I do that? Would virmach allow me to transfer it to you?

    Thanks for that but dont worry :) I would most likely idle that $2 anyway. You earned the best deal this BF because even I tried I cant get it too 😅

    lol well it'll be idle in my account for a bit so if you come up with a use case for it, let me know.

    @FAT32 said:
    Not really sure how you guys did it without getting rate limited, sometimes it was an accident and suddenly have to wait 60 seconds

    For that last one I actually didn't think I got it. I made it all the way to the payment page, click PayPal checked the TOS box and clicked to confirm payment and the button text changes to "Please wait". Then I got the 5xx error multiple times. I only found out I got the $2 deal later when I went to remind myself of the specs of the other 5 I got and the $2 one was there with invoice pending payment. :shrug:

    Thanked by 1FAT32
  • Yup, to all present here, post a benchmark of your flash deal haul!

    I have one in Chicago but disk performance is a little bad at the moment so I'll wait for a few days for things to settle down first.

    And post here if you uncover an easter egg so we'll all know what we're missing. Don't post the actual easter egg! Perhaps just a clue or a hint to guide the rest of us 😀

    Thanked by 3FAT32 uptime FrankZ
  • FrankZFrankZ Veteran
    edited December 2019

    The 1st BF deal
    1vCore, 768MB RAM, 15G SSD, 500GB Bandwidth, San Jose, CA - $7.68

    -------------------------------------------------
     nench.sh v2019.07.20 -- https://git.io/nench.sh
    -------------------------------------------------
    Processor:    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 v2 @ 2.50GHz
    CPU cores:    1
    Frequency:    2499.998 MHz
    RAM:          740M
    Swap:         255M
    Kernel:       Linux 4.4.205-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64 x86_64
    
    Disks:
    vda     15G  HDD
    
    CPU: SHA256-hashing 500 MB
        6.033 seconds
    CPU: bzip2-compressing 500 MB
        11.859 seconds
    CPU: AES-encrypting 500 MB
        3.379 seconds
    
    ioping: seek rate
        min/avg/max/mdev = 68.8 us / 229.3 us / 45.9 ms / 733.1 us
    ioping: sequential read speed
        generated 13.3 k requests in 5.00 s, 3.25 GiB, 2.66 k iops, 665.2 MiB/s
    
    dd: sequential write speed
        1st run:    152.59 MiB/s
        2nd run:    97.27 MiB/s
        3rd run:    98.23 MiB/s
        average:    116.03 MiB/s
    
    IPv4 speedtests
    
        Cachefly CDN:         44.20 MiB/s
        Leaseweb (NL):        5.23 MiB/s
        Softlayer DAL (US):   15.90 MiB/s
        Online.net (FR):      6.68 MiB/s
        OVH BHS (CA):         6.03 MiB/s
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest Monster v.1.4.6 2019-10-29
     Region: Global  https://bench.monster/speedtest.html
     Usage : curl -LsO bench.monster/speedtest.sh; bash speedtest.sh -Global
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     OS           : CentOS 6.10 (64 Bit)
     Virt/Kernel  : KVM / 2.6.32-431.1.2.0.1.el6.x86_64
     CPU Model    : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 v2 @ 2.50GHz
     CPU Cores    : 1 @ 2499.998 MHz x86_64 4096 KB Cache
     CPU Flags    : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Disabled
     Load Average : 0.09, 0.02, 0.01
     Total Space  : 15G (1.3G ~10% used)
     Total RAM    : 235 MB / 742 MB (22 MB Buff)
     Total SWAP   : 2 MB / 255 MB
     Uptime       : 0 days 4:16
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     ASN & ISP    : AS36352, ColoCrossing
     Organization : New Wave NetConnect, LLC
     Location     : Elk Grove Village, United States / US
     Region       : Illinois
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
     ## IO Test
    
     CPU Speed:
        bzip2     :  57.4 MB/s
       sha256     : 130 MB/s
       md5sum     : 366 MB/s
    
     RAM Speed:
       Avg. write : 2082.1 MB/s
       Avg. read  : 4130.1 MB/s
    
     Disk Speed:
       1st run    : 138 MB/s
       2nd run    : 159 MB/s
       3rd run    : 218 MB/s
       -----------------------
       Average    : 171.7 MB/s
    
     ## Global Speedtest
    
     Location                       Upload           Download         Ping
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest.net                  123.15 Mbit/s    223.81 Mbit/s   * 72.372 ms
     USA, New York (AT&T)           135.43 Mbit/s    117.64 Mbit/s    67.475 ms
     USA, Chicago (Windstream)      137.81 Mbit/s    204.80 Mbit/s    50.468 ms
     USA, Dallas (Frontier)         175.21 Mbit/s    358.32 Mbit/s    37.602 ms
     USA, Miami (Frontier)          135.61 Mbit/s    253.17 Mbit/s    68.206 ms
     USA, Los Angeles (Spectrum)    538.31 Mbit/s    634.50 Mbit/s    10.715 ms
     UK, London (Community Fibre)   20.22 Mbit/s     30.48 Mbit/s    132.082 ms
     France, Lyon (SFR)             24.93 Mbit/s     21.67 Mbit/s    157.457 ms
     Germany, Berlin (DNS:NET)      17.05 Mbit/s     14.01 Mbit/s    159.910 ms
     Spain, Madrid (Adamo)          23.63 Mbit/s     42.96 Mbit/s    157.556 ms
     Italy, Rome (Unidata)          21.93 Mbit/s     70.79 Mbit/s    166.080 ms
     Russia, Moscow (MTS)           19.93 Mbit/s     67.92 Mbit/s    194.746 ms
     Israel, Haifa (013Netvision)   20.92 Mbit/s     54.77 Mbit/s    195.614 ms
     India, New Delhi (Airtel)      14.56 Mbit/s     15.56 Mbit/s    271.273 ms
     Singapore (FirstMedia)         24.31 Mbit/s     38.24 Mbit/s    168.371 ms
     Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther)     107.86 Mbit/s    129.60 Mbit/s   106.131 ms
     Australia, Sydney (Yes Optus)  12.32 Mbit/s     1.42 Mbit/s     212.518 ms
     RSA, Randburg (Cool Ideas)     9.63 Mbit/s      2.63 Mbit/s     329.471 ms
     Brazil, Sao Paulo (Criare)     17.54 Mbit/s     66.71 Mbit/s    172.242 ms
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
     Finished in : 8 min 37 sec
    
  • My requested deal ...
    2vCore 3 Ghz, 1024MB RAM, 15G SSD, 500GB Bandwidth @ 10gb, BUFFALO, NY - $8.95

    -------------------------------------------------
     nench.sh v2019.07.20 -- https://git.io/nench.sh
    -------------------------------------------------
    
    Processor:    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 v2 @ 3.00GHz
    CPU cores:    2
    Frequency:    2999.998 MHz
    RAM:          992M
    Swap:         255M
    Kernel:       Linux 4.4.205-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64 x86_64
    
    Disks:
    vda     15G  HDD
    
    CPU: SHA256-hashing 500 MB
        4.285 seconds
    CPU: bzip2-compressing 500 MB
        10.099 seconds
    CPU: AES-encrypting 500 MB
        2.849 seconds
    
    ioping: seek rate
        min/avg/max/mdev = 79.1 us / 451.3 us / 144.3 ms / 3.13 ms
    ioping: sequential read speed
        generated 4.96 k requests in 5.00 s, 1.21 GiB, 992 iops, 248.2 MiB/s
    
    dd: sequential write speed
        1st run:    152.59 MiB/s
        2nd run:    256.54 MiB/s
        3rd run:    288.01 MiB/s
        average:    232.38 MiB/s
    
    IPv4 speedtests
    
        Cachefly CDN:         56.22 MiB/s
        Leaseweb (NL):        22.42 MiB/s
        Softlayer DAL (US):   22.12 MiB/s
        Online.net (FR):      25.53 MiB/s
        OVH BHS (CA):         79.80 MiB/s
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest Monster v.1.4.6 2019-10-29
     Region: Global  https://bench.monster/speedtest.html
     Usage : curl -LsO bench.monster/speedtest.sh; bash speedtest.sh -Global
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     OS           : CentOS 6.10 (64 Bit)
     Virt/Kernel  : KVM / 4.4.205-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64
     CPU Model    : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2690 v2 @ 3.00GHz
     CPU Cores    : 2 @ 2999.998 MHz x86_64 4096 KB Cache
     CPU Flags    : AES-NI Enabled & VM-x/AMD-V Disabled
     Load Average : 0.39, 0.12, 0.04
     Total Space  : 15G (1.3G ~10% used)
     Total RAM    : 437 MB / 992 MB (51 MB Buff)
     Total SWAP   : 0 MB / 255 MB
     Uptime       : 0 days 20:0
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     ASN & ISP    : AS36352, ColoCrossing
     Organization : Virtual Machine Solutions LLC
     Location     : Buffalo United States / US
     Region       : New York
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
     ## IO Test
    
     CPU Speed:
        bzip2     :  55.8 MB/s
       sha256     : 106 MB/s
       md5sum     : 343 MB/s
    
     RAM Speed:
       Avg. write : 1501.9 MB/s
       Avg. read  : 3413.3 MB/s
    
     Disk Speed:
       1st run    : 167 MB/s
       2nd run    : 234 MB/s
       3rd run    : 220 MB/s
       -----------------------
       Average    : 207.0 MB/s
    
     ## Global Speedtest
    
     Location                       Upload           Download         Ping
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest.net                  471.68 Mbit/s    494.27 Mbit/s    1.205 ms
     USA, New York (AT&T)           324.79 Mbit/s    250.48 Mbit/s    16.023 ms
     USA, Chicago (Windstream)      16.90 Mbit/s     190.75 Mbit/s    26.607 ms
     USA, Dallas (Frontier)         177.44 Mbit/s    1.33 Mbit/s      46.653 ms
     USA, Miami (Frontier)          209.80 Mbit/s    387.61 Mbit/s    42.575 ms
     USA, Los Angeles (Spectrum)    100.49 Mbit/s    54.93 Mbit/s     74.512 ms
     UK, London (Community Fibre)   153.64 Mbit/s    85.95 Mbit/s     75.799 ms
     France, Lyon (SFR)             110.42 Mbit/s    121.10 Mbit/s    90.396 ms
     Germany, Berlin (DNS:NET)      100.68 Mbit/s    125.62 Mbit/s   105.794 ms
     Spain, Madrid (Adamo)          155.69 Mbit/s    157.71 Mbit/s    98.225 ms
     Italy, Rome (Unidata)          127.54 Mbit/s    141.92 Mbit/s   114.450 ms
     Russia, Moscow (MTS)           80.90 Mbit/s     226.92 Mbit/s   133.148 ms
     Israel, Haifa (013Netvision)   77.96 Mbit/s     116.64 Mbit/s   143.492 ms
     India, New Delhi (Airtel)      55.74 Mbit/s     22.33 Mbit/s    220.122 ms
     Singapore (FirstMedia)         19.79 Mbit/s     11.20 Mbit/s    243.332 ms
     Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther)     94.81 Mbit/s     21.40 Mbit/s    171.014 ms
     Australia, Sydney (Yes Optus)  49.35 Mbit/s     13.27 Mbit/s    231.868 ms
     RSA, Randburg (Cool Ideas)     34.77 Mbit/s     51.58 Mbit/s    246.841 ms
     Brazil, Sao Paulo (Criare)     76.13 Mbit/s     14.30 Mbit/s    138.055 ms
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Finished in : 8 min 29 sec
    
  • @FAT32 said:

    @donli said:
    What are they mad about?

    Not being able to change email of their VirMach account on time, in fact I believe it is just because he can't sell his account on time.

    Maybe VirMach shall apply some limits in next flash sale such as only users with a decent number of active services are qualified to buy. It may avoid such account sellings and make less auto script or bots to reduce 502 errors

    Thanked by 2FAT32 uptime
  • @FAT32 said:
    Now I feel empty without that VirMach bell / flash deal :(

    Could you please give more hints about the easter eggs
    Still working at the weekend so do not have much time to digging so far :cry: :

  • A 2018 classic the XIYAN SHITWEASEL
    2vCore, 2048MB RAM, 10G SSD, 1000GB Bandwidth @ 10gb, Los Angeles, CA - $8.79

    -------------------------------------------------
     nench.sh v2019.07.20 -- https://git.io/nench.sh
    -------------------------------------------------
    Processor:    QEMU Virtual CPU version (cpu64-rhel6)
    CPU cores:    2
    Frequency:    2199.998 MHz
    AES-NI     :  Disabled
    VM-x/AMD-V :  Disabled
    RAM:          2.0G
    Swap:         255M
    Kernel:       Linux 4.4.182-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64 x86_64
    
    Disks:
    vda     10G  HDD
    
    CPU: SHA256-hashing 500 MB
        7.723 seconds
    CPU: bzip2-compressing 500 MB
        14.328 seconds
    CPU: AES-encrypting 500 MB
        8.370 seconds
    
    ioping: seek rate
        min/avg/max/mdev = 69.3 us / 183.8 us / 14.6 ms / 322.1 us
    ioping: sequential read speed
        generated 16.3 k requests in 5.00 s, 3.99 GiB, 3.27 k iops, 816.3 MiB/s
    
    dd: sequential write speed
        1st run:    114.44 MiB/s
        2nd run:    167.85 MiB/s
        3rd run:    156.40 MiB/s
        average:    146.23 MiB/s
    
    IPv4 speedtests
    
        Cachefly CDN:         69.34 MiB/s
        Leaseweb (NL):        12.57 MiB/s
        Softlayer DAL (US):   16.49 MiB/s
        Online.net (FR):      15.23 MiB/s
        OVH BHS (CA):         17.41 MiB/s
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest Monster v.1.4.5 2019-10-13
     Region: Global  https://bench.monster/speedtest.html
     Usage : curl -LsO bench.monster/speedtest.sh; bash speedtest.sh -Global
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     OS           : CentOS 6.10 (64 Bit)
     Virt/Kernel  : KVM / 4.4.182-1.el6.elrepo.x86_64
     CPU Model    : QEMU Virtual CPU version (cpu64-rhel6)
     CPU Cores    : 2 @ 2199.998 MHz x86_64 4096 KB Cache
     CPU Flags    : AES-NI Disabled & VM-x/AMD-V Disabled
     Load Average : 0.07, 0.02, 0.00
     Total Space  : 9.6G (2.5G ~28% used)
     Total RAM    : 1057 MB / 2000 MB (109 MB Buff)
     Total SWAP   : 10 MB / 255 MB
     Uptime       : 123 days 0:23
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     ASN & ISP    : AS36352, ColoCrossing
     Organization : proxy-r-us.com
     Location     : Buffalo, United States / US
     Region       : New York
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
     ## IO Test
    
     CPU Speed:
        bzip2     :  29.2 MB/s
       sha256     :  59.7 MB/s
       md5sum     : 153 MB/s
    
     RAM Speed:
       Avg. write : 959.6 MB/s
       Avg. read  : 2389.3 MB/s
    
     Disk Write Speed:
       1st run    : 94.2 MB/s
       2nd run    : 111 MB/s
       3rd run    : 135 MB/s
       -----------------------
       Average    : 113.4 MB/s
    
    
     ## Global Speedtest
    
     Location                       Upload           Download         Ping
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest.net                  427.67 Mbit/s    583.07 Mbit/s    5.489 ms
     USA, New York (AT&T)           172.67 Mbit/s    106.36 Mbit/s    62.232 ms
     USA, Chicago (Windstream)      146.78 Mbit/s    125.10 Mbit/s    41.937 ms
     USA, Dallas (Frontier)         222.17 Mbit/s    293.59 Mbit/s    37.506 ms
     USA, Miami (Frontier)          157.86 Mbit/s    494.99 Mbit/s    61.889 ms
     USA, Los Angeles (Spectrum)    464.96 Mbit/s    618.51 Mbit/s     2.053 ms
     UK, London (Community Fibre)   129.92 Mbit/s    108.92 Mbit/s   136.265 ms
     France, Lyon (SFR)             31.95 Mbit/s     186.62 Mbit/s   147.743 ms
     Germany, Berlin (DNS:NET)      100.08 Mbit/s    55.10 Mbit/s    159.700 ms
     Spain, Madrid (Adamo)          77.11 Mbit/s     132.25 Mbit/s   156.021 ms
     Italy, Rome (Unidata)          64.22 Mbit/s     113.12 Mbit/s   167.328 ms
     Russia, Moscow (MTS)           37.71 Mbit/s     50.63 Mbit/s    184.372 ms
     Israel, Haifa (013Netvision)   66.01 Mbit/s     75.00 Mbit/s    206.445 ms
     India, New Delhi (Airtel)      19.20 Mbit/s     50.54 Mbit/s    300.560 ms
     Singapore (FirstMedia)         4.14 Mbit/s      15.24 Mbit/s    260.425 ms
     Japan, Tsukuba (SoftEther)     83.99 Mbit/s     7.81 Mbit/s     117.088 ms
     Australia, Sydney (Yes Optus)  70.70 Mbit/s     43.35 Mbit/s    161.797 ms
     RSA, Randburg (Cool Ideas)     12.98 Mbit/s     15.88 Mbit/s    288.487 ms
     Brazil, Sao Paulo (Criare)     69.92 Mbit/s     134.11 Mbit/s   176.656 ms
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Thanked by 1uptime
  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @PhantomPain said:
    Maybe VirMach shall apply some limits in next flash sale such as only users with a decent number of active services are qualified to buy. It may avoid such account sellings and make less auto script or bots to reduce 502 errors

    I like this idea a lot. It will also solve lots of multiple accounts issue.

    Thanked by 2FrankZ uptime
  • uptimeuptime Member
    edited December 2019

    @FAT32 said:

    @PhantomPain said:
    Maybe VirMach shall apply some limits in next flash sale such as only users with a decent number of active services are qualified to buy. It may avoid such account sellings and make less auto script or bots to reduce 502 errors

    I like this idea a lot. It will also solve lots of multiple accounts issue.

    I think there may be a few angles to consider

    caveats:

    • Bringing in new customers is presumably one of the primary goals of this sort of promotion
    • The stress/frustration/confusion when ordering may be part of the rush that supports a behavioral conditioning paradigm in this particular flavor of flash sale experience - which in turn may compel many to make repeat / impulse purchases in an attempt to "win" - this may drive a large part of the overall profit margin (if there is any)

    benefits:

    • There is an optimal level of frustration etc beyond which people may give up in disgust - so it makes sense to control that for fine-tuning as much as possible
    • Reducing fraud, chargebacks, support tickets, and unprofitable transactions in general

    tl;dr: it's complicated ...?

    Thanked by 3FAT32 randomq Chronic
  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @uptime said:

    The answer to most of the things is it depends. Maybe this rule only applies to really limited deals?

    Thanked by 1uptime
  • uptimeuptime Member
    edited December 2019

    @FAT32 - for me (not really knowing either the big or little picture, just speculating in an abstract way) I would just say it seems worth some experiments. Ultimately I suspect @VirMach would like to get paid well for their work - though it may be possible that they have become just as hooked on the "fun" as many of us have.

    So - if they can reduce the downside of some transactions while doing good deals on surplus resources with a preference for "known quality" customers (idlers lol) then that does sound like a win. (And it seems like they're inclined to do that in a general way - but it's a bit messy here ... If I had to guess, I'd say it's mainly for the lulz - justified to their accountants as "customer goodwill") :wink:

    Thanked by 1FrankZ
  • If somebody finds an egg then PM me first before using it so I can use it first and test if it is working properly. This way you will be assured of the quality of the egg.

    Thanked by 1plumberg
  • So there are two easter eggs remaining to be found in this thread?

  • @alilet - I believe there is at least one in this thread ... involving the stability of commutative combinatorics, as it were

    Thanked by 3alilet FAT32 FrankZ
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